Arghus wrote: » Most of you here would do well to read the words of the poster in this thread. A consultant in an Irish hospital, whose hard factual information has been extremely sobering over the last few weeks.https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113352900#post113352900 This answer to a question from earlier today, should shock some of you back to reality, but I doubt it at this stage:
hopalongcass wrote: » Scaremongering so they can keep dipping into the bond market and signing us up to as many ventilators and tests as possible,no doubt deals they have already promised to their paymasters and are just using all their tools to swing the population into accepting spending their children and grandchildren into debt slavery.
hopalongcass wrote: » You are quick to point out what one consultant said maybe you would do well to listen to other consultants,Prof. Michael O'Keefe Consultant Surgeon in the Mater in Dublin tonight just said he doesn't see any use in the 2km or 5km along with most of the restrictions he said makes no sense.
Arghus wrote: » tinfoil hat stuff
jmayo wrote: » I am fooking tired of this shyte about how the younger generations have it so such more difficult. Younger generations, anyone that was born after mid 1980s have for the most part has had the option of staying in this state. A fooking option not afforded to most people of previous generations. Yes there was downturn after construction bubble burst, but it seemed to afford a fair share a chance to go on almighty p**sup in Australia. Younger generations have enjoyed unknown advantages never before experienced by most people born in this state. Talk to older generations and find out how they had to travel to find a job and a life, not a fooking stag weekend or a post exam pi**up. Most people of older generations, the ones that some now want to see sacrificed to this disease, did not have access to second level education never mind fooking third level. Now almost everyone gets a shot at some third level or other. And another thing that a fair few of our older generations had to suffer was war because when they did emigrate some of them ended up in foreign armies fighting a real war. Some made the ultimate sacrifice for not alone their adopted country, but also the world as a whole. But some of the fookers today see the fact they can't go out and down the pub as the ultimate sacrifice.
SusieBlue wrote: » All cervical cancer screenings, smear tests & colposcopies have been cancelled until further notice. Early intervention is critical with this cancer, yet no services can be accessed nationwide by anyone. I doubt they want yet another health scandal on their hands but at this point it’s inevitable. There are going to be a lot of people who were either delayed in accessing services, or who couldn’t access services at all, who will be furious in a few months when the repercussions from paralysing our hospitals & health system becomes clear.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Read them alright. My opinion is -Public health advice is an incredibly sensitive subject that needs to be handled with extreme caution to avoid causing unnecessary anxiety among vulnerable people. Many medical professionals are disagreeing now on this virus (see Dr Marcus Brun) -As the per the last statement in the quote, this is not my fault and nobody will force me to accept responsibility for Covid, or am I at fault for suggesting the economic catastrophe looming Ireland requires consideration. Ireland has plans for restrictions months after Europe.
Arghus wrote: » The ranting of Marcus de Brún does not constitute disagreement from "many medical professionals".
Arghus wrote: » I watched Prof O' Keefe on the tonight show earlier - and not for the first time. As usual, his opinions about the lockdown were completely at odds with every opinion I've heard expressed by every single other medical expert since the beginning of this crisis. You can say our fellow poster is pulling figures out of his arse, but months ago he did predict our death rate by May with frightening accuracy. I sincerely hope he's way off this time.
uli84 wrote: » Got informed today that screening will be restarted “as soon as it is deemed safe to do so”, anybody knows when that is? We’re talking here about 1:1 appointment lasting 5 minutes max
kaymin wrote: » Over 60% of deaths have been in nursing homes - this should never have happened. Our death rate would have been far far less except for the incompetence of our government and CMO.
Pitch n Putt wrote: » Yeah true and that’ll be €250 for the consultation , thank very much sir. From the same consultants that refused to assist with the Covid crisis.
wrote: To put it into perspective we would normally have about 31,000 dead in a 12 month period so that 15,000 would mean 46,000 dead in the 12 month period which is a roughly 50% spike in deaths. That is very significant.
Arghus wrote: » Big mistakes were made in the handling of the threat faced by nursing homes. I agree with you 100%. But if we are concerned about the ongoing risk to nursing homes then we should all exercise extra caution in our attitude and behaviours, towards preventing further spread of the disease in the community. People from outside bring the disease into nursing homes and we all know know how dangerous it is for nursing home residents. So if you want to do something as an individual to protect the future health of nursing home residents, well then be responsible in trying to curb the further spread of the virus in the wider community, which inevitably leads to further infection in care home and nursing home settings. Stick with the restrictions, don't give the virus a chance to spread.
gozunda wrote: » It does not matter whether you or anyone are mandated not to mix with he "over 70s". Their carers live in the wider community. There is no way that those in nursing homes (with the current issue of care home outbreaks) and other elderly people can totally effectively cocoon or completely socially isolate whilst staff and carers interact with them but also others in the wider community. There are calls for care staff to completely isolate but I've no idea whether that's totally realistic either. But more importantly - the issue of Covid-19 is not only with the over 70s and those in care homes. Only half the current deaths can be attributed to this cohort. Vulneralbities exist across all age groups - whether asthma, diabetes or other long term illnesses. And the disease affects a significant proportion of otherwise healthy under 70 year olds and results in a significant number of those infected being hospitalised. And precisely because of this - countries across the would have adopted restrictions to control the numbers of those infected and to prevent health services being overrun. This is not unique to Ireland btw. It is a fact that many other countries are further along with their restrictions and / or have varying demographics than us.
Balf wrote: » The last phase, 10 August. Before that, just shops with their own entrance
Mad_maxx wrote: » Those unfortunate cases are extremely rare for anyone that age
celt262 wrote: » How would you suggest the government could have kept it out of nursing homes? It has been a problem worldwide.
Bobtheman wrote: » Black market in hair dressing is all over the place. It's ok for Paschal Donohue. He has hardly any hair.
Nickindublin wrote: » Didn’t they recommend the closure of playgrounds a full week before nursing homes. Absolute disgrace.
Deleted User wrote: » HSE or not, That guy is a scaremongering, doomsday nut. I argued with him back in Jan/Feb when he was saying that 300000 Irish would die. Seems he is massively backtracking now and yet still predicting numbers that just won’t happen if we properly protect care homes. He also told people he had a 20% chance of dying if he caught Covid. He also explained how he takes hours upon hours to decontaminate his groceries that get delivered. Read the tone of his posts. Smacks of someone who thinks he is better than everyone in society. I ignored him long ago and so should you all.
I also suggested in a post earlier in this thread that what would determine our death toll over the next year would be the balance that would have to be struck between acceptable casualties and economic/social activity. At the time I said that everyone was backing the lockdown but, unfortunately, as I expected, human nature, short-sightedness and selfishness are presenting themselves again and already a significant minority of people are openly admitted they're happy to return to normal so long as they're only killing other peoples' parents/grandparents.
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