easypazz wrote: » And some bars in Spain from today.
gozunda wrote: » Not me saying that Covid-19 as a disease is a significant risk btw. That's the concensus of health professional globally. I'd suggest you discuss that with them. As to why restrictions are starting to lift in some countries? Because yes those countries have managed to reduce the numbers being infected and dying from Covid-19. However even those countries acknowledge they are not out of the woods yet. Btw re Italy which has been eight weeks with restrictions. The restrictions here started on March 12th - that's just six weeks. What needs to be watched is that some areas like Germany who were winding back restrictions are seeing an increase in infection rates.https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/28/coronavirus-germany-s-covid-19-infection-rate-rises-after-lockdown-lifted
lawrencesummers wrote: » I think you have a point, Ryanair, airlingus, BA went through the 1918 flu pandemic with no effect on them. Wait. Hmmm something’s wrong. Would I be that commercial air travel only Began in earnest post world war 2....
Benimar wrote: » Read the full paragraph about the over 70’s. ‘Visits to homes of over 70s and medically vulnerable by no more than a small number of persons for a short period of time wearing gloves, face coverings, maintaining strict 2m social distancing‘ Under 70s can meet without those requirements, bar the social distancing one.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Where can we read the detailed lifting of restrictions ? Is there an official site ?
Benimar wrote: » https://assets.gov.ie/73722/ffd17d70fbb64b498fd809dde548f411.pdf
Penfailed wrote: » Except they aren't. More lies.
storker wrote: » Translation; "I have no argument so I'll reach for sarcasm and a oneliner." Impressive. Enjoy your coffee which, based on your demonstrated ability to judge expertise, is probably week-old cocoa. .
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I am judging NPHET expertise, and my judgement is the response to the pandemic has been very poor. A shambles. Merely for the following reasons: -over 1300 dead -22% unemployment created, 14% unemployment September onwards into next year -Thousands of jobs lost Compare that to New Zealand. Compare it to South Korea, compare it to Czech republic, or Denmark, Norway, Finland. Even Poland with a population of 39m people has had 680 deaths. Unfortunately...
easypazz wrote: » Over 6000 (probably 7000 now) healthcare workers infected. How many close contacts and nursing home patients did they go on to infect?
Penfailed wrote: » When it's pointed out that issues in nursing homes are not confined to Ireland, you say that you aren't aware of the facts in other countries yet you're quick to rely on what's happening in other countries to back up your thinking on other issues.
easypazz wrote: » I have not seen any facts relating to nursing homes in other countries so can't comment. If I see facts from other countries then yes I will refer to them. Like the fact that some bars opened in Spain today, a fact which you accuse me of lying about.
Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: » I got stopped and warned by the guards a couple of weeks back for driving my kids to the back 1.5km away (theyre 2 and 3). The beach was allowed as it was within the 2km zone, but driving there apparently wasnt as it wasnt an essential journey. By that logic and with golf courses reopening, can people only play if the course is 2km from their house, and do they have to walk there? Im struggling to understand how opening these things take effect if the "non-essential journey" isnt redefined
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Apparently Minister for finance has had a report on his desk from Ireland association of restaurants stating that 9 out of 10 restaurants will not re open if lockdown is continued for any substantial period of time, report on his desk since mid April. Risking 135,000 jobs in the sector. I assume this excludes pubs? And then there was Leo's announcement on 1st of May.
easypazz wrote: » Like the fact that some bars opened in Spain today, a fact which you accuse me of lying about.
the kelt wrote: » I’ve seen this brought up a few times but now does the fact other countries have had issues with nursing homes somehow negate our issues? As if it’s alright sure other countries made mistakes too?? I’ve seen France and Sweden being mentioned as other countries with nursing home issues yet they still seem to be progressing faster than ourselves. Are there other countries with nursing home issues being hampered like ourselves in easing restrictions? Genuine question as I don’t know?
the kelt wrote: » Are there other countries with nursing home issues being hampered like ourselves in easing restrictions? Genuine question as I don’t know?
rob316 wrote: » And the support for businesses is laughably poor. Another raft of measures to help on saturday. Its all sound bytes "2bn" "credit gaurantee" "rebates". The only solid thing was a 3 months rates waiver which isn't enough. The retail and hospitality sector is going to need a large portion of their rent paid to have any future.
Penfailed wrote: » Source?
Penfailed wrote: » Why is it assumed that the problems in nursing homes are hampering the easing of restrictions?
Micky 32 wrote: » Some good news, people being treated in hospital for Covid 19 hits three week low.
Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: » By that logic and with golf courses reopening, can people only play if the course is 2km from their house, and do they have to walk there? Im struggling to understand how opening these things take effect if the "non-essential journey" isnt redefined
