Tell me how wrote: » You've no lack of confidence in your own opinion anyway, I'll give you that.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » It appears Ireland has. It wouldn't be so if the persons who assumed control were transparent and gave detailed targets to meet, "as low as possible" was a response to a direct question to Tony H. Isn't that some guff of an answer from a guy who has assumed total control. The lack if transparency also exists between Tony, Leo and Simon and the minister's. The document published Friday which will seperate families and remove liberties for 6 months was released so late on Friday the ministers couldn't debate over its functionality. The media loving immunologist's and doctor's have by now embarrassed themselves enough with utter bulls##t models and projections of 120k and above dead in Ireland. The platform they have used needs to be removed week. They have had to much effect with the inaccurate lies and self importance they have been spreading. People have been lead to believe that the restrictions have prevented 120k dying in Ireland which is utter rubbish.From this week on I want every lying goon removed from the TV and the business minister (who hasnt got any airtime for some bizzare reason) sat down with every economist they can drag out of a cave to inform us about whats ahead. If those economist suggest a famine will strike Ireland this Winter, its no less responsible then suggesting Covid will kill 120k in Ireland with no evidence to back up an absurd claim.
gozunda wrote: » That's an attitude alright. A selfish attitude imo. Though I reckon I see your were you are coming from. You simply dont understand anything about this pandemic. So why the need for restrictions for everyone? Because just about anyone can get Covid-19 and all those can spread it. Hence the restictions to control the spread of the disease and to stop health services being overwhelmed - like Italy. Nursing homes across the world are unfortunately badly affected - not just Ireland. The reasons for this is because the people living in such settings cannot socially isolate and have vulnerable people who live alongside the healthy. But more importantly nursing homes cannot be completely isolated from the wider community. Nurses, staff, catering is all required to keep these homes happens. The staff and other personal live in the wider community. Get rid of those restrictions and the infection rate will climb and more people in the community will increasingly bring the disease to those in such settings . Restrictions are there for these exact and very good reasons. That some refuse to acknowledge that is neither here nor there.
boetstark wrote: » Ah will you ever feck off, are you calling me a liar??
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Nah thats rubbish. Its no more dangerous to that cohort than influenza
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Yes exactly my attitude. Its completely selfish to isolate the healthy to protect the minority of the vulnerable, especially so, when isolating the healthy wont have any effect on what happens in nursing homes
boetstark wrote: » But c19 is hitting people that are fit and healthy. It is putting them in hospital and in cases on ventilators.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Whats wrong with having high infection rate if ICU isnt overwhelmed? Are we in the business of 100% protecting our population from flu, coronavirus, should we preach to people how to live their lives to avoid getting HIV too? Life is risk. If you want anything else, you need to stay indoors. If you are very old and have weak immune system, you need to isolate, unfortunately. If you have underlying conditions you need to isolate. Why would you isolate if you are healthy? everybody in this forum, damn even the country know that % of healthy people are easily 95%, perhaps even 98%. If we open tkmaxx this isnt going to go to 50% infection rates..... people maintain social distancing with strangers. They have done so a long time now, how often do you walk right onto the person and expect them to move out of your way?
easypazz wrote: » Swedens economy in tatters. That is the rubbish you came out with. The article you linked to is going for a v shaped recovery in Sweden. You are so clueless you link to articles that undermine your arguments.
in the first scenario ...gross domestic product contracts by 6.9% in 2020 before rebounding to grow 4.6% in 2021. In a more negative prediction (scenario , GDP could contract by 9.7% ... The International Monetary Fund predicted earlier in April that Germany and the U.K. will see their economies contract by 6.5% and 7% this year, respectively. France is expected to see a 7.2% contraction, Spain an 8% contraction and for Italy to see its economy shrink 9.1%. Sweden's neighbors Finland and Denmark, which also imposed lockdowns, are also expected to see their economies contract by 6% and 6.5%, respectively... Sweden's supply chains and businesses have been damaged by the pandemic and the Riksbank warned that "many companies will be hit hard and many people will lose their jobs," although it decided to hold its benchmark interest rate at zero this week.
gozunda wrote: » Not reading the thread? Already commented on that.https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-sweden-economy-to-contract-as-severely-as-the-rest-of-europe.html
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Sweden's unemployment rate as result of pandemic is 10%. ours is 22% according to minister for finance. Ours will go down to 14% September onwards, assuming no 2nd lockdown, Sweden's will go down to the usual 6%. The experiment here, given that death rates are identical in both countries, is going to be how long we can lock our barbers at home for. 4 months. 5?
You do realise that unemployment projections are just a small part of any possible scenario yeah? Quoting Swedens Cental Bank this article details Quote:In the first scenario (scenario A in the chart below), gross domestic product contracts by 6.9% in 2020 before rebounding to grow 4.6% in 2021. In a more negative prediction (scenario , GDP could contract by 9.7% ... The International Monetary Fund predicted earlier in April that Germany and the U.K. will see their economies contract by 6.5% and 7% this year, respectively. France is expected to see a 7.2% contraction, Spain an 8% contraction and for Italy to see its economy shrink 9.1%. Sweden's neighbors Finland and Denmark, which also imposed lockdowns, are also expected to see their economies contract by 6% and 6.5%, respectively... Sweden's supply chains and businesses have been damaged by the pandemic and the Riksbank warned that "many companies will be hit hard and many people will lose their jobs," although it decided to hold its benchmark interest rate at zero this week.
rob316 wrote: » There will be plenty lads and lasses that take their chances for the ride.
ceadaoin. wrote: » Lol, they definitely aren't over. People will do what they want regardless of the social distancing guidelines. You think its ok for the government to dictate that people can't have sex or start relationships and that its acceptable for healthy young people to put their lives on hold like that? Even Dr Fauci said that of course people can take a date home if they so wish because stopping people from forming relationships would be complete government overreach.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Covid is not a death sentence. What happens if no vaccine exists for 4-5 years?
peasant wrote: » It doesn't matter one bit who says so, me, Simon Harris or whoever. The reason why you shouldn't hug your mother is because you don't want to give her the virus. If you absolutely need to hug your mother, quarantine yourself for two weeks and if you're sure you don't have the virus ...then you can hug her. I'm sure she'd do the same for you.
stephenjmcd wrote: » https://twitter.com/cecileollivier/status/1256966423919935491?s=19 Quite huge news out of France this evening, French doctor on BMFTV in France has said he retested all PCR normal flu swabs after having a patient with pneumonia in hosptial on 27th December, retest postive for covid. Now if its verified and they've said they'll publish the data in medical journals next week then this has been around a hell of a lot longer than people think
callaway92 wrote: » Cool, ok. I mean... you won’t.. but you might as well say you will for whatever reason. Haha at ulterior motives - what in the hell..
the dark phantom wrote: » Had enough of the bull**** now, I'm going to go about my business as usual once my exams are over. Its going to be a long rotten boring summer and I'm not willing anymore to put up with it. I'm in the at risk category and I couldn't give a ****. More and more this lockdown seems to have an ulterior motive behind it.
Podge201 wrote: » Link?
SusieBlue wrote: » If the news that has come out about France is true, that changes everything. It confirms the theory that this virus has been around a lot lot longer than first thought.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » With all due respect peasant you are being extremist. Why is staying 2 metres away from another human a new norm now? Because Simon Harris says? Can i hug my mother when Simon says its ok? I do not live with her.
