kippy wrote: » I don't live in Sweden, amn't Swedish and don't know enough outside of their death rates to have a well formed opinion on Sweden. Do you disagree with my maths?
iamwhoiam wrote: » Were you there on the essential business of photoing them ?
robinph wrote: » Other than certain tasks there is a lot of things which can be done without people needing to be in close proximity to each other though. New ways of doing those tasks need to be figured out, or accept the risks, and the rest of us have to accept that building work will take longer than before as all the other tasks that can be done solo are going to take longer as you can only have one or two people in a room at a time.
Or we stop building stuff because it's too complicated.
There isn't going to be much call for new office buildings for a good few years anyway so no rush there, upgrading fibre links to people's houses is where the work is going to be now.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Bob, they tried. But Garda closed Pheonix park. Garda will shut down any form of public gatherings, there were 6 girls protesting against Debenhams on Henry street, easily 3 meters apart from each other, still told to get the hell out by our law enforcement.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I disagree with your maths. They've already proved New York's death rate of 0.12%. Slightly higher of flu. Unfortunate Kippy people will die. Whether off flu or car crash or cancer or tuberculosis. Telling 99.8% of population to try to stay at home, miss out on vitamin D or actual social interaction, create 25% unemployment (10% permanent unemployment into next 3 years) and put 100 + businesses into bankruptcy is not the way to go.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » I don't disagree that your basing maths on inherently flawed models. Using your theory, double those numbers and compare them to Sweden using a quick google search.
LiquidZeb wrote: » Why don't you go and gawk out the curtains to make sure no one's outside like a good lad.
Bob24 wrote: » Actually the park was closed with no-one left in it when I was walking back 15 minutes later - I suspect this is what happened as there were a few Garda cars around. That is a shame: it could have remained open for people living in the local area and going their for a walk or a run, but because many don't feel the rules apply to them, it ended-up being closed even to those who would have followed them.
Bob24 wrote: » They clearly aren't further than 2 meters from each other on the picture of the street. They kind of are in the park, but which of the allowed reason to leave home would you say they fall into? (I'd say none)
Gynoid wrote: » Why don't you keep within the rules of posting on boards, there's a good lassie.
Bob24 wrote: » No need. I was taking a walk within 2km of my home without anyone closer than 2 metres from me (I wasn't in the park, just taking a zoomed picture from the street). Not lying in the park with a big crowd.
Bob24 wrote: » If you read my posts again, you will see I was doing my first walk in a while, within 2km of home as per the rules and that I didn't even enter the park (I just took a quick snap while waiting to cross the street).
kippy wrote: » Just so we are using the same baseline.can you link to where you get that figure from.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Oh no, i was referring to a protest gathering at 2 pm in Pheonix park yesterday. Garda closed Phenonix park. You know, probably renovating.
kippy wrote: » How many of that 99.8 percent of the population will require hospitalisation and at what rate? Let's look at your example of car crashes. People obviously die in car crashes. Thankfully it is not a contagious disease. But ignoring that for a minute do you think that more or less people would/do die in car crashes because of the various rules/restrictions and advances in technology than if we allowed people drive what they wanted, how they wanted with no legal or risk mitigation attached to it? Edit, I'll take a look at the US number you provided later and respond.
RobbingBandit wrote: » Noticing several house parties in my area in Finglas Friday Saturday and today very loud one last night music playing well into am hours crazy big Garda station in the village but no response to these parties.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Government are just delaying because they don’t know what to do.
stephenjmcd wrote: » They closed it yesterday because a few head bangers tried to have a protest
kippy wrote: » I'll have a look at the Swedish data when I get a chance later
snotboogie wrote: » Any hear Newstalk this morning with the HSE executive? She made it clear that there is no timeline to end social distancing and that we will have to get used to a new normal. Annoyingly the host was intent on putting hand washing and social distancing in the same bracket "I guess we'll just all have to get used to washing hands and social distancing" as if they are one in the same. Hand washing is a minor inconvenience which has almost no downside, social distancing will force us to reconsider everything about our society and economy. I've said it over and over and over but people are not grasping the drastic implications of long term social distancing. The restrictions being lifted are a sideshow, a non event for most people. The real question is when we won't need to be 2 metres away from anyone not in our household. Society cannot function anything like it did before with social distancing in place.
An immunologist has warned that keeping Ireland under lockdown is having only a modest impact in the fight against Covid-19. Paul Moynagh, professor of immunology at Maynooth University, points to two studies that raise serious questions about the value of keeping Ireland behind closed doors. In the first study, data across 24 countries, including Sweden, the Netherlands and Ireland, shows that the virus is following the same downward path - regardless of whether a country is in full lockdown, which suggests that social distancing is the key to suppressing the virus - not more extreme measures.
Penfailed wrote: » They're delaying to avoid ICUs becoming overrun, not because they don't know what to do.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » whats next, Leo making announcements to the country without taking questions from journalists over his measures imposed?
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