Deleted User wrote: » Because of restrictions
drunkmonkey wrote: » Starting to sound like the guards might have a problem now as well, no great surprise as there all piling around in cars stopping us from traveling.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Due to the problems with the slowness of Boards.ie in the last 48 hours I’ve stopped commenting here and indeed reading except for the last 2 pages. I’ve also stopped commenting due to the abusive nature of some posters. I’ll just say the following: If this lockdown continues after Monday I’ll be living my life as I see fit myself. I live alone. I’ve been on my own and seen nobody since 2nd week in March apart from 4 days work which has ended. I’m no longer going to stick to 2KM exercise. I’ve bought a tent and will travel further for a few trips. Harvey Norman are delivering a new washing machine tomorrow. Water filtration company are coming to service my system on Tuesday I has all my windows washed by a local company yesterday. The country is silently and slowly getting back to some activity even in a small way. I applaud that. For every keyboard warrior here shouting down people who are questioning these lockdowns, there are many of us now who are silently planning on getting back to some kind of (new) normal! They’re just not on Boards.
gozunda wrote: » I never mentioned Boris. You did many many times. So yes it looks like you look to him for inspiration as you said "not even Borris..." etc etc. And btw I was replying to those who dont believe in any restrictions - of whom there are many on this thread apparently. And again this is a worldwide pandemic. It's not just the HSE or Ireland. And incorrect again - no I did not say it was "great". I said it was a 'good analogy" And that stands. For as long as we have people here suggesting that older people are "on borrowed time" and by implication expendable and that its all a big conspiracy to place young people on house arrest or wtte - then we are most certainly dealing with historic levels of stupidity. If it takes using simple analogies to point out just how daft these comnents are. Then so be it.
Gael23 wrote: » Problem in what sense?
stephenjmcd wrote: » Haven't heard anything about the gardai having issues, I do know they're working in the same pairs since the start of this. Drew Harris did mention on Wednesday that the current policing level is not sustainable for much longer
tobefrank321 wrote: » And the alternative is? Sacrifice our economy for years to come for an illness whose impact is slight for 90% of the population, at least. Yes that makes sense.
KrustyUCC wrote: » So according to most papers today NPHET meets this morning and will give recommendations to Simon Harris Cabinet meeting at three Extension of restrictions by 2 or 3 weeks to be announced by Leo at 6 Tony Holohan wants 3 weeks so he will get it bringing us up to 8 weeks of full lockdown without the lifting or tweaking of a single restriction Leo will tell us that we're doing so so well, flattening the curve, reducing the number of people in hospital, reducing number of people in ICU, keeping the R0 below 1, saving 3500 lives but it's not good enough Little will be mentioned of the mess in nursing homes etc and lack of testing capacity in the HSE Then Leo will go on the Late Late for a love in with Tubridy outlining his roadmap which won't outline what is good enough anyway It will be as vague as possible and have phases that are 3 weeks apart and more than likely some a month apart extending restrictions for months on end Depressing day ahead
drunkmonkey wrote: » You heard nothing about meat factorys either until I said it yesterday, I'm out and about so can see what's happening.
stephenjmcd wrote: » I'm out and about also, dont see what that has to do anything. Have a number of friends in the gardai based in DMR and they're working away without issue at the moment.
the kelt wrote: » Come next week i do expect more and more people to be out and about. I know of companies that would be deemed to be an essential business under the current circumstances but decided to hold back and put their shoulder to the wheel for example in the belief locking down for 3 weeks would help control this and therefore restrictions eased after 3 weeks. A few of these ive spoken to have decided enough is enough, theyre back operating from next week. These are companies that could have been operating but decided to be good citizens and lock some of their staff down , go that extra bit for the few weeks. Other companies again in the essential business sector took similar approaches in not giving all their staff letters to go out about their business even though technically they could have, again i know a few of these companies who plan to give more of their staff letters to move out and about as part of their business. Ignoring any semblance of people not obeying restrictions going forward there is undoubtedly going to be more people out and about from next week imho.
Deleted User wrote: » As of midnight 27th April, only 75 people under the age of 65 have actually died from Covid 19. Only 14 under 45. Its very clear that we need to continue to ask the elderly to cocoon and try to get the nursing homes under control. This is the most important step. Get this in order and the death rate drops to almost nothing. For everybody else, the 2KM should be dropped immediately. Business should start to reopen with social distancing in place. Office workers to remain at home were possible, pubs and restaurants to stay closed for another few weeks. The risk of death from Covid 19 if you are under 45 is almost non existent.
Deleted User wrote: » No, my own view on this probably changes daily, however what I think long term may serve us better both as a society, and an economy, is to take a bit more pain, possibly 4-6 weeks,and get cases here down to a very low level. At that point instead of the baby steps approach, which essentially only has the economy on life support for the next 9 to 12 months, with massive social distancing restrictions in place across the economy and the entire hospitality sector at no more than 30% capacity, we could instead have a wider opening of society, with approaching normal levels of social interactions with the exception of large gatherings. We would need an air tight contact tracing system and quarantine in place at entry points, however life would get back to approaching normality for the vast majority of people.
gozunda wrote: » Thanks for proving the analogy. I'm fairly sure the Vichy supporters in France durting ww2 believed that the impact of deportations would be slight on 90 % of the population.... Again to repeat it's not only about who dies - the current restrictions are to control the rate of infection and stop our health services been overwhelmed. If you are in doubt - take a look at what happened in Italy. They were left with no choice but slap on draconian restrictions when it was almost too late. And yes their economy has taken a huge hit because of the impact of disease coupled with one of the highestvdeath rates in the world. Only now after the lockdown are they seeing progress. They are startung to lift some restrictions but then they were one of the first countries to become infected.
Podge201 wrote: » Keep Dublin under lock down and let the rest of the country start up.
Downlinz wrote: » A regional approach is what a lot of other countries are doing but we'd need a serious Gardai presence to enforce this or otherwise you're going to have infected Dubs flocking to areas of the country with relaxed restrictions and increasing the spread.
[Deleted User] wrote: » As of midnight 27th April, only 75 people under the age of 65 have actually died from Covid 19. Only 14 under 45.Its very clear that we need to continue to ask the elderly to cocoon and try to get the nursing homes under control. This is the most important step. Get this in order and the death rate drops to almost nothing.For everybody else, the 2KM should be dropped immediately. Business should start to reopen with social distancing in place. Office workers to remain at home were possible, pubs and restaurants to stay closed for another few weeks. The risk of death from Covid 19 if you are under 45 is almost non existent.
Deleted User wrote: » The risk of death from Covid 19 if you are under 45 is almost non existent.
retro:electro wrote: » Am I understanding this correctly- according to this leaked timeline, there will be three weeks/ one month between each stage. And there may even be the possibility that we will have to move back a stage if it’s “not working”. Meaning it could be well into August before some services and small business will be open? Does Leo think the public are actually going to accept this? ****ing grim.
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