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John Waters & Gemma O'Doherty to challenge lockdown in the high Court

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Now I know they are going to get a lot of ridicule for this but the lockdown is almost certainly unconstitutional so I wish them luck. https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1250421661062459399

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What.Now

sweetie wrote: »

I'm about to bury my mother who has passed due to this horrible virus. If I ever meet either of these despicable excuses for human beings so help me God I hope there's someone with me to keep me from driving a size 12 up their respective holes.

God love you stay strong.

sweetie

I'm about to bury my mother who has passed due to this horrible virus. If I ever meet either of these despicable excuses for human beings so help me God I hope there's someone with me to keep me from driving a size 12 up their respective holes.

Collie D

Yurt! wrote: »

Gemma O'Doherty is a toxic combination of a "I want to speak to the manager" type woman and David Icke.

Except instead of the manager of Milanos she wants to speak to the Supreme Court.

I’m stealing this.

Pretzill

I think the Garda who had to deal with yer woman showed great restraint.

I am getting tired of this crowd and their allies (many seem.to be spouting the same rhetoric on the Relaxation thread,) here and on other threads and on social media in general. I can't help feeling if restrictions were lifted to satisfy this ignorance these would be the first people complaining when A&E is chockablock and people are dying in their own homes. It's scary how many seemingly intelligent people are acting completely thick about this.

HeidiHeidi

Yurt! wrote: »

Gemma O'Doherty is a toxic combination of a "I want to speak to the manager" type woman and David Icke.

Except instead of the manager of Milanos she wants to speak to the Supreme Court.

Brilliant description

Yurt2

Gemma O'Doherty is a toxic combination of a "I want to speak to the manager" type woman and David Icke.

Except instead of the manager of Milanos she wants to speak to the Supreme Court.

Truthvader

Apologies if this is old news. I did do a quick check but didnt find anthing. Actually shocked that any person would behave like this outside of a comedy show.

Please send chocolates and flowers to the fabulous guard. If it were me I would have dumped my career and hauled the evil witch from car and thrown her into the river

alchemist33

Truthvader wrote: »

Jesus. Has anyone seen the clip of Gemma on youtube being an rude entitled ignoramus to a Guard. Unbelievably this delusional creature put up the clip herself. Some more able than me should copy it on here.

What an absolutely vile creature

And her silly court case is shunted to the top of the list as people die trying to protect us.

A toxic self obsessed viper

I only saw it this evening. The garda deserves a minutes clapping just for herself. I don't think I've ever witnessed a sense of entitlement that huge before.

swarlb

Truthvader wrote: »

Jesus. Has anyone seen the clip of Gemma on youtube being an rude entitled ignoramus to a Guard. Unbelievably this delusional creature put up the clip herself. Some more able than me should copy it on here.

What an absolutely vile creature

And her silly court case is shunted to the top of the list as people die trying to protect us.

A toxic self obsessed viper

Have you not read the original post.... ??

Truthvader

Jesus. Has anyone seen the clip of Gemma on youtube being an rude entitled ignoramus to a Guard. Unbelievably this delusional creature put up the clip herself. Some more able than me should copy it on here.

What an absolutely vile creature

And her silly court case is shunted to the top of the list as people die trying to protect us.

A toxic self obsessed viper

Markcheese

It's kind of irrelavent which house / caravan you consider home , if you were there when this kerfuffle started ,you're supposed to stay there ... So if your "home address" is by the beach In Kerry but youre still in your city pad in Dublin ... You should stay in Dublin ..( and vice versa ) according to the garda commissioner a couple of weeks back .

TaurenDruid

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

Ok, then, I'll bite. What are these laws for, then?

TaurenDruid

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Who decides a house is a “holiday home”?
The local nosey Parker, maybe Mr twitchy curtains?
Do people go round lookin in windows and takin notes?

Revenue.

Well - you, in conjunction with Revenue. You are paying your LPT and/or tax on your rental income on this holiday home of yours, yeah?

storker

political analyst wrote: »

It means he has more credibility than O'Doherty, who only started making derogatory remarks about travellers after Peter Casey was doing well in the opinion polls before the presidential election.

I don't see how that gives him a pass.If he had any credibility resulting from that single issue, I'd say he's just tossed it overboard.

political analyst

storker wrote: »

I believe he has, but I don't see the connection between that and this.

It means he has more credibility than O'Doherty, who only started making derogatory remarks about travellers after Peter Casey was doing well in the opinion polls before the presidential election.

storker

political analyst wrote: »

But do you not think he has made valid points in the past about family-law courts and the way in which separated parents have been treated?

I believe he has, but I don't see the connection between that and this.

political analyst

gooseygander wrote: »

Level headed my ass, he must be bat **** crazy to stand beside or be associated with that deluded, unstable, abusive, racist woman. She needs medical help and he must be not far from needing it also because if he was level headed he would kick her to the kerb faster that you can say “I am your master”.

But do you not think he has made valid points in the past about family-law courts and the way in which separated parents have been treated?

runawaybishop

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

And a point you seem to be missing is that when Simon Harris drafted the legislation (and noted by Drew Harris who made no attempt to remedy the position) that they all knew the regulations wouldn't apply to persons with a primary residence outside the State should they choose to enter Ireland.

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

This isn't the conspiracy forum :rolleyes:

storker

EyesClosed wrote: »

What are the laws for if not public health?

Because tyranny!

(Or something.)

rosser44

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Who decides a house is a “holiday home”?
The local nosey Parker, maybe Mr twitchy curtains?
Do people go round lookin in windows and takin notes?

Do you own a house? Because if you did you would know the answer to the question.

Its the house you normally live in.

You decide if a house is a holiday home, when you declare a property your principle private residence for capital gains tax.

plodder

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

And a point you seem to be missing is that when Simon Harris drafted the legislation (and noted by Drew Harris who made no attempt to remedy the position) that they all knew the regulations wouldn't apply to persons with a primary residence outside the State should they choose to enter Ireland.

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

The Simon Harris regulation has to work with the confines of the law passed by the Oireachtas, and that can't be fixed until we get a new government. They knew this apparently when drafting the regulation, but it was overlooked when they drafted the legislation. Nothing can be done about it until there is a new Seanad able to pass new primary legislation.

Edgarfrndly

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Who decides a house is a “holiday home”?
The local nosey Parker, maybe Mr twitchy curtains?
Do people go round lookin in windows and takin notes?

Somewhere that's not your place of residence for the majority of the year, probably.

BENDYBINN

Who decides a house is a “holiday home”?
The local nosey Parker, maybe Mr twitchy curtains?
Do people go round lookin in windows and takin notes?

brightspark

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

And a point you seem to be missing is that when Simon Harris drafted the legislation (and noted by Drew Harris who made no attempt to remedy the position) that they all knew the regulations wouldn't apply to persons with a primary residence outside the State should they choose to enter Ireland.

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

Many laws when initially legislated have loop holes, that doesn't mean that the intent of the legislation is wrong.
Time was obviously critical in producing this legislation, better to have it cover 90% of circumstances than none.

What other reason could there be for the legislation?

EyesClosed

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

And a point you seem to be missing is that when Simon Harris drafted the legislation (and noted by Drew Harris who made no attempt to remedy the position) that they all knew the regulations wouldn't apply to persons with a primary residence outside the State should they choose to enter Ireland.

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

What are the laws for if not public health?

Mrs Shuttleworth

TaurenDruid wrote: »

"In fairness"(*), that isn't happening, so you're grand.

What did happen is one county council apparently used a drone to check on levels of activity in holiday home/caravan park developments. Presumably they'll be back to check on the level of activity over the BH weekend. And on to the cops to say "Hey, there's a load of people in X place who weren't there last week."

Which would be evidence of unnecessary travel. Which would be in breach of the temporary law brought in to protect you and your loved ones - a point you seem to be missing.

(*) Starting a post with "In fairness" or ending it with "case closed!" does not mean you win the argument, despite what people online seem to think.

And a point you seem to be missing is that when Simon Harris drafted the legislation (and noted by Drew Harris who made no attempt to remedy the position) that they all knew the regulations wouldn't apply to persons with a primary residence outside the State should they choose to enter Ireland.

Pull the other one in telling me these laws are to protect public health.

Grab All Association

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Has it happened, the only thing I seen was a Sun article that said they could use drones. Nothing that they are actually using them

It showed it happening on Rte news yesterday.

Shefwedfan

TaurenDruid wrote: »

"In fairness"(*), that isn't happening, so you're grand.

What did happen is one county council apparently used a drone to check on levels of activity in holiday home/caravan park developments. Presumably they'll be back to check on the level of activity over the BH weekend. And on to the cops to say "Hey, there's a load of people in X place who weren't there last week."

Which would be evidence of unnecessary travel. Which would be in breach of the temporary law brought in to protect you and your loved ones - a point you seem to be missing.

(*) Starting a post with "In fairness" or ending it with "case closed!" does not mean you win the argument, despite what people online seem to think.

Has it happened, the only thing I seen was a Sun article that said they could use drones. Nothing that they are actually using them

TaurenDruid

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness a drone hovering round your house is taking tracking to a new level...

"In fairness"(*), that isn't happening, so you're grand.

What did happen is one county council apparently used a drone to check on levels of activity in holiday home/caravan park developments. Presumably they'll be back to check on the level of activity over the BH weekend. And on to the cops to say "Hey, there's a load of people in X place who weren't there last week."

Which would be evidence of unnecessary travel. Which would be in breach of the temporary law brought in to protect you and your loved ones - a point you seem to be missing.

(*) Starting a post with "In fairness" or ending it with "case closed!" does not mean you win the argument, despite what people online seem to think.

dan1895

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness a drone hovering round your house is taking tracking to a new level...

Empty holiday home.