stephenjmcd wrote: » Rte reporting earlier that we wont see any dates associated with Fridays expected announcement, rather clinical phases associated with each phase, cases under x, ICU under Y etc.
cython wrote: » To be fair, if they actually established a concrete frame of reference for any of the metrics in that manner (the exception maybe being when they said we needed the growth rate under 5% - It's now under 2.....) it would be more of a commitment than any of the recent vague announcements.
KrustyUCC wrote: » True I suppose Still smacks of not having an actual plan that people can follow but I'll wait for the detail
iamwhoiam wrote: » I actually think if they allowed visits to sit in a garden with good social distancing and encouraged 3 metres between us that people would in fact adhere to it If they don’t give an inch on Tuesday they run the risk of people doing exactly as they please By giving a little more people will stick to it and by engaging with the public and driving home the distancing they will get more on board and less breaking the rules A meet with a friend or family within a certain range in the garden with 3 metres between would calm a lot of the uneasy public. I see it all around me people getting fed up with the lack of any tiny chink of relief .
NIMAN wrote: » This would be massive. It would mean that the kids could go visit their cousins, even just sitting on the same lawn maybe 5 metres apart would be huge for them.
SusieBlue wrote: » Another fine example of people trivialising & sneering at other people’s legitimate concerns & worries. Yeah you’re right, I want lockdown ended purely so I can get my dog a few highlights, I’ll get my nails done and then we’ll probably stop at the pub for a few scoops on our way home :rolleyes: There was an article in my local paper this week about an elderly women who fell and hurt her hip and is now in hospital, where she is at a high risk of contracting the virus. She injured herself trying to lift her dog into the bath. Her dog has dermatitis and requires a weekly medicated bath to treat his condition. Her daughter, who gave the interview to the newspaper, said this was a service usually provided by her dog groomer but as they were closed & she was cocooning she was trying to do it herself. She won’t be the first or last case of something like that happening. And regardless, if vets are allowed to open then so should groomers. One is as necessary as the other, which you would understand if you had any experience with animals who have skin conditions or who require regular care. Now do you see why this is an essential service?
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Kids won't sit down for more than a minute. But whatever.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Of course they would . Older kids , 8, 9 10 are well able to sit for a while and chat Not talking toddlers here but not all kids are toddlers !
JRant wrote: » Vintage Leo speak so. We hit a target, then he'll come out and say, oh we need to be at that level for a week minimum. The fudging opportunities are endless and exactly the type of scenario he loves. He strikes me as someone who needs a focus group to tell him what cereal to eat in the morning.
Spanish Eyes wrote: » OK, OK, settle down. I get what you are saying, but the instinct of kids is to mingle and play. And they may have younger siblings also. It's a tough call really, since they have so much energy to run off, and unless you have them in reins off they will go, inevitable.
KrustyUCC wrote: » Back to that "at an appropriate time" crack Some plan that is That really won't go down well with people
road_high wrote: » That should have been the plan 7 weeks ago then. An awful lot of time has been wasted but par for the course with the HSE involved. The most incompetent organisation in the country led by dithering pen pushers- what could go wrong?
iamwhoiam wrote: » Then you leave again . I can’t see the problem really . Older kids will sit very still if it means they get to see grandparents again in my opinion
stephenjmcd wrote: » Let's see what Friday brings but if that's the way it goes it'll be difficult for them to get people on their side again as it wont give clarity to businesses
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Yeah 7 weeks ago Ireland should have known the plan for a virus no country has yet to figure out. Jesus what was your plan 7 weeks ago?
road_high wrote: » Not this wait and see ****e that’s for sure- there are people on massive salaries advising/modelling. But sure what’s another month of dole and demolished tax revenues?
JRant wrote: » He was even trying to fudge when the announcement would be, "it might be Friday but will definitely be at some stage over the weekend". Just bloody well tell us and get on with it. He seems to revel in that sort of nonsense. Just like his "plan" for providing childminding to healthcare workers. He was waiting on a "report" and would definitely have it actioned in a day or two. That was over a week ago and the actual plan was let them take paid leave to mind the children. Absolute genius, I don't know why we didn't think of that sooner but it clearly needed top men to write a report to come to such a groundbreaking solution.
cython wrote: » Well according to the Swiss under 10s aren't a risk (https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/swiss-elderly-told-they-can-hug-children-who-are-under-10-as-theyre-not-spreaders-39166432.html) and if you accept that from 10 upwards they can be "controlled", for want of a better term, then where's the risk? There's an element of flippancy to the above, but it still goes to show there's a counterpoint out there
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Fair enough. I just wonder about the practicalities of a load of kids together visiting Gran and Grandad or whomever. They go nuts! It is lovely to see, but in these times I would be a tad concerned.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Can you wait until friday? Before you throw your toys out of the pram?
Antares35 wrote: » Don't some public sector workers still get a "productivity allowance" if they started before a certain time?
showpony1 wrote: » Ok - So you are totally changing the context of saying the Dog groomers need to be opened as an "essential service" from what you actually said in your post Sue. You are now saying this is due to an old woman dying trying to lift her sick dog into the bath - when your whole previous post was about your poor doggo needing to have to wear a pony tail cause his hair was in his eyes. that was the only "legitimate concern" in your whole previous post.
