cython wrote: » Was going to say exactly this. It's beyond frustrating to hear such vague rationales as "not good enough" without ever being told what "good enough" might look like. But if they even provided a ballpark of what might be required from the public then it would be more difficult to hide behind this kind of excuse when the bolstering measures (testing, etc.) from the state are not realised in time.
Charles Babbage wrote: » People are talking here as if the Irish government has some different policy from other places like Poland. It does not, it has an equal willingness to reopen things but it has different data. Poland has half the deaths of Ireland with 7 times the population and only half the number of new cases at present. We are where we are, we cannot wish we were somewhere else and we just have to get on with it and not make any more mistakes. Issuing a plan is fine but they need to identify the data that will be needed to justify each step.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Does sound like Leo is gearing you all up for some bad news....
jonnny68 wrote: » People from up north can come over the border and go on day trips here without the garda doing anything,Bulgarian fruit pickers can travel on a packed plane to come into this country to pick strawberry's, so if Leo and co think that people are going to remain under lockdown and this 2km restrictions then they'll be sorely mistaken.
seamus wrote: » I don't think so. I think they're trying to avoid any hint that restrictions will be lifted, so that people stick with it until an official announcement. Could also be the case that the medical advice is that in the absence of a proper cross-border plan, that we should stay in lockdown as long as the UK does. But one could imagine the impact of saying that!
ELM327 wrote: » Great article indeed. I'd heard that quote before but it seems even truer here. Those generations fought a war. We're being asked to watch netflix and chill, and we can't even handle that it seems!!
never_mind wrote: » One more post until 4,000. Congrats!!!
ixoy wrote: » That "Netflix and chill" flippant point still going? Maybe, just maybe, there's more reasons people are objecting to it. Such as the ones that have been outlined here hundreds of times.
ELM327 wrote: » Thread has gotten TLDR... care to outline?
ChikiChiki wrote: » Family, friends. Humans are not built for this level of restriction. Social creatures and all that.
road_high wrote: » Sadly, I wouldn't doubt it. Was only saying to my ma the same thing last night- they'll extend to two weeks - and as the June bank holiday will be coming up "to be extra safe" we will extend beyond that. Then we will do another "review". All the while the economy is flushed down the toilet.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Well could you relay this to the virus and kindly ask it to go away? Humans aren't made for all kinds of things, war, famine, etc. But we persevere. We're hardly staying indoors for the fun of it.
Downlinz wrote: » It's amazing how some people seem to think the lockdown is to blame for the economic problem and not the virus. :pac:
Well could you relay this to the virus and kindly ask it to go away?
road_high wrote: » That’s how they operate- drip drip drip feed. Not even going to watch this rubbish Friday night, not worth wasting your time.
ixoy wrote: » No but saying people should just "chill" is effectively saying they should just relax, take it easy. It's not acknowledging how tough it is as they're worried about how they're going to cope financially, mentally (not everyone is happy just to watch Netflix) and the longer term. You can't just "chill" in these circumstances. Actually our response to the virus most certainly impacts the economic problem.
Downlinz wrote: » Supermarkets have had to recruit a significant number of extra staff as well just to deal with it. It would be farcical to think small business could operate in that kind of environment.
stephenjmcd wrote: » I dont dispute that, but the point is we've been told for the last 2 weeks its suppressed in the community, main issue is nursing homes and long term care settings, the CMO on the late late saying he was very optimistic about the 5th, but now that's changed, so either they aren't presenting us all the data or dont have a plan. We'll see come Friday
hmmm wrote: » This is a great article in the Irish Times todayhttps://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/r%C3%B3is%C3%ADn-ingle-i-m-an-optimist-but-we-need-to-confront-the-brutal-realities-1.4238932 "We won’t be out by May 5th. We need to confront the reality, what holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl called “tragic optimism”. We need to train ourself to hold both things close: the hope that we will indeed prevail and the harsh, brutal reality of all the awfulness and uncertainty we’re facing. It’s liberating."
seamus wrote: » I don't think so. I think they're trying to avoid any hint that restrictions will be lifted, so that people stick with it until an official announcement.
Supermarkets have had to recruit a significant number of extra staff as well just to deal with it. It would be farcical to think small business could operate in that kind of environment.
growleaves wrote: » Its been over-hyped and over-sold from day one and onwards continually. The lockdown is pointless and hasn't done anything except destroy the country's finances and small businesses. Worldwide estimates of H1N1 were ~152-575 thousand, with 375,000 being the median. We have 211,000 (inflated) deaths now. And we’re on the down slope. Which will put us almost exactly in middle of H1N1.
munsterlegend wrote: » Very unhinged stuff. Just being confrontational for the sake of it.
CruelSummer wrote: » 7. How many more people are going to die of cancer and other conditions as a result of this decision should they take it. I know people waiting for vital tests, eg. colonoscopy, etc., none of these are being done. MADNESS.
GolfNut33 wrote: » If there aren't any sort of easing of restrictions the government will lose the compliance of a hell of a lot people. People are starting to get angry and pissed off.
