Thespoofer wrote: » Is this fake? If genuine don't see anything about construction going back.
almostover wrote: » Lad just so you know Tony Holohan has your best interest with regards to public health driving his decision making. He isn't some pr*ck who gets sadistic pleasure from curtailing your movements. Have a think about a healthcare worker who has been working non stop risking their own health to care for those who are most sick. That's who we are sacrificing a little bit of enjoyment in our lives for. It's worth it.
daretodream wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-extended-for-another-two-weeks-for-the-vast-majority-39162734.html
The Belly wrote: » Corona lives on plastic for 3 weeks. Unless your in a space suit and walk through a decontamination unit each time you step in and out of tesco your probably exposed.
prunudo wrote: » True, but they don't always produce the best advice. Without derailing the thread. Can anyone fill me in or link me to why De Brun resigned, I missed the details on that.
Better Than Christ wrote: » Not just the manpower, but the consent of the people wouldn't exist either. I know consent isn't an issue if the state adopts the jackboot tactics advocated by some on here, but any Irish government that inflicted that kind of treatment on the public would be rightly punished in future elections. It's time to start gently easing the restrictions - extend the 2km limit, start allowing more shops and businesses to reopen with mandatory social distancing measures in place, allow people to go to their local beaches and parks, as long as social distancing guidelines are followed, get rid of the mini checkpoints in towns and villages, but keep the big checkpoints on main roads. I'm still working and putting myself in harm's way, but I consider myself a hell of a lot luckier than those stuck at home. The boredom would kill me - I dread my days off now as it is. There's only so much Netflix I can watch. I'm 100% sure I'd end up finding ways of breaching the restrictions, or at least stretching them to their limits.
Gael23 wrote: » Depends who has more influence I guess
Idbatterim wrote: » This is exactly what I feared weeks ago, a bunch of incompetence morons who run the health service and politicians, destroying the country. There is never a plan here, no urgency ... They would rather destroy lives in other ways and jobs, businesses than have one extra corona related death on their hands. The same morons who lost a ton of seats in an election, during a boom. Why was landscaping shut down when many work alone? Building is also too important and massive figures employed directly and indirectly by it , or is building housing etc no longer necessary? DIY stores, need to reopen asap, get building back, possibly drop this 2km bull****, allow small social gatherings like 4-5 people. We will be waiting months and months for anything good to reopen , possibly longer. Give us something you pr*cks. They are signing their own death political death warrant at this stage.
ceadaoin. wrote: » I thought the r0 is well below zero in Ireland at this stage? Didn't they say that community spread is non existent? So what exactly would be the point of an even stricter lock down? The first one worked just fine. This virus isn't just going to disappear if the military are patrolling the streets
SusieBlue wrote: » The fact that certain posters are implying that those of us who would like to see restrictions eased are simply looking for a few pints and for the pubs to be open is absolutely pathetic and extremely disingenuous. I don’t recall anyone on this thread saying their number #1 priority in reopening services is getting the pubs & clubs back open. Not one. I did however see many, many posts about people wishing to see their friends and family again, people wanting to go back to work, people wanting to avail of basic services and appointments and people wanting to have the freedom to drive more than 2km from their homes. No one whinging about wanting going on the lash whatsoever, and no one insisting we go back to total normality & a free for all. Just people who are struggling wanting a bit more access to the basic human privileges we’ve come to know and depend on. Not a lot to ask for after 7 weeks of doing as we’re told, making personal sacrifice after personal sacrifice and completely flattening the curve.
prunudo wrote: » I've heard De Gascun on the radio over the last few weeks, I'd sooner take his opinion than that of the condescending head master.
uli84 wrote: » Ffs, this is ridiculous, I was obeying but if it continues I won’t anymore, countries much more affected are opening up. High risk myself but sick of it and at the edge of breaking down.
combat14 wrote: » so 80% business rate failure is not doomsday..
Gael23 wrote: » He said similar earlier yesterday but I felt Holohan was contradicting him so not sure what to think
The Belly wrote: » Ok but 4 have closed that means there is one might survive but 4 that went to the wall. Why because the vast majority of that town is unemployed. Its not doomsday its a fact and it has all happended before.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Kinda what I just said. Worth a watch. He did say we need a reward for our good job. Contact tracing is a problem and he won't have the testing labs at capacity for 2.5 weeks. Your playing with fire using gloves and masks in public.
Gael23 wrote: » Didn’t see that. What did he say?
Arghus wrote: » I agree that it isn't feasible to expect people to continue to stay inside etc, etc for an indefinite period of time, but as it stands it is still too early to relax restrictions. The numbers are still too high. That is just a basic fundamental fact. May 5th is bullsht. Of course the lockdown is causing emotional, physical and mental suffering. Of course it's incredibly damaging for the economy. But the inevitable additional avoidable deaths and suffering that will occur will have an even greater impact. If the shackles are off this thing will kill a lot more. And certain death is more damaging than hypothetical depression. This is bad, this is difficult, but the alternative is much worse. We can't loosen restrictions until the testing and contact system works as it should and has the capacity to cope. That does not exist at the moment, but it's something that could conceivably exist in the short to medium. If the case numbers can be reduced to a manageable amount each day - certainly not hundreds each day - and if all the procedures to test and contract trace are set up and robust enough to do their job, then I think, yeah, a phased reduction of restrictions is warranted. If we're lucky that could be achievable by the end of May, but June is more likely. All of this has to be in place. You won't eradicate the virus, but you can delay it and contain its spread. The HSE/ government need to grow some balls and spell it out for people.
drunkmonkey wrote: » I don't believe the Times or Indo after listening to Cillian De Gascun on newsnight last night, I expect them to start advising people to stop using gloves and possibly masks as they both can increase your chances of infection, distancing and hand washing as advised from the start will have to be reinforced. He did say we should be rewarded, contact tracing and testing need to be improved, testing is 2/3 weeks out. It's worth catching up on if you didn't see it.
Better Than Christ wrote: » I'm still working and putting myself in harm's way, but I consider myself a hell of a lot luckier than those stuck at home. The boredom would kill me - I dread my days off now as it is. There's only so much Netflix I can watch. I'm 100% sure I'd end up finding ways of breaching the restrictions, or at least stretching them to their limits.
deekster wrote: »
Arghus wrote: » Is that even feasible? I don't think the manpower exists to enforce that kind of lockdown even if they wanted to.
Arghus wrote: A friend was talking to me yesterday and he was complaining that he was bored inside. He's still getting paid every week, more than I am, and he doesn't have to leave his house to put himself in harms way. That fella has no idea how lucky he is. And I hear more and more of that crap everyday. It would drive you mad listening to that. I would fcking love to trade places.
