lord quackinton wrote: » Do not trust the lockdown merchants on here They enjoy this lockdown, the economic fallout does not affect them They are made up primarily of Public sector employees mainly teachers These people do not want to go back to work and are being paid full whack to sit on their bottom These people would sleep on the floor if there was work in the bed Public sector employees genuinely believe there is something special about them You wait, as these people are told go back they will kick up a stink especially teachers
ixoy wrote: » So here's one - for those of us who can't drive, how are we going to learn to drive as we'd need to be in close proximity to a professional instructor? There's going to be cases like this where social distancing cannot be done so there'll need to be plans to work around it.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Well that settles that. You know people who made appointments and got hair cuts in barber shops?
gozunda wrote: » So you weren't all over the hospital? And you have no idea how staff and / or resources were being directed towards treating Covid-19 patients and away from other areas? So what you're saying you were in AE (a few times?) And thats it? Doesn't seem like a very comprehensive survey to be fair. A question: A re you a medical expert regarding your opinion about the virus? Why should I take any randomers opinion that "we need to live with it"? How do you think thats going to work when flu season hits in or god forbid the fuking thing develops a nastier strain which starts killing kids or even young adults in large numbers. Imho we simply do not have the information available to us to make such overarching blanket statements at this point The alternative - I hear you say? I have no freaking idea. Let's hope there is one where this doesnt turn into a runaway pandemic which will cripple people and economies in equal measure.
The Belly wrote: » And how will they manage that?
kippy wrote: » Look, if you cannot see the massive differences between a pub and a shop/supermarket I'm not going to be able to explain it to you, nor is anyone else.
easypazz wrote: » 2 metre distancing on trains, darts, buses, taxi, schools? No chance.
easypazz wrote: » Why not close all off licences, including supermarket ones?
The Belly wrote: » If it goes through the summer there wont be a pub left
Arghus wrote: » The doctor on Claire Byrne summed it up quite well. The schools closed on March 12th, when we had 70 confirmed cases and 1 death. And there was a high degree of compliance with the measures across society. Despite that we've still had 20,000 infections and over 1100 deaths - and that's with all our efforts. How can they even be talking about lifting restrictions?
Tandey wrote: » They all may get the finger out and start offering a pint takeaway service.
Lord Trollington wrote: » So should we shut up shop for 2 years until the vaccine that may never actually come arrives . People need to get real here. This virus is going no where. We could lockdown the whole country for months forcing people to stay in their house and it will still be around.
kippy wrote: » Yep - in as much as possible people will have to do their best to keep up with physical distancing. If there's no chance of it happening in certain areas/locations/jobs then the risk will need to be mitigated (which is what has happened over the past 4-6 weeks) Again, I feel sad that I have to explain this.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Because absolutely no evidence exists to suggest 1 death was prevented in this country using the current restrictions, implemented under an approach used in countries with vastly differing demography
GazzaL wrote: » Will it be delivery or drive-thru? :pac:
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » If restrictions are removed and this goes through the population leading to a new tougher lock down regime what are the people so desperate for their pints now going to say then? All for the sake of maybe a few more weeks? Because if we have to reverse relaxations due to overwhelming of our infrastructure it won't be dealt with in weeks any more. It will be months and like Spain and Italy you will need permission just to leave the house, allowed out once every 2 days for supplies. It's a hell of a gamble to take. People could end up looking very foolish and pay a terrible price.
Lord Trollington wrote: » A pint take away service you say...Is n't there someone already offering that called an off licence.
kippy wrote: » Yep - in as much as possible people will have to do their best to keep up with physical distancing.
Penfailed wrote: » You said that if it goes through the summer there won't be a pub left. I replied to say there will. How will they manage? I'm not sure. I'll guarantee that there will be pubs left though. Imagine a town with five pubs. At least one pub will reopen because the demand will be there. Doomsday predictions aren't helping anyone.
GazzaL wrote: » Look, you've lost the argument, it's even been on RTE News many times that hospitals are deserted and everyone's worried that people aren't seeking help when they need it.We can't live in perpetual fear. We can't expect zero risk of anything bad ever happening, or we'd never cross the road. It is a fact that until a vaccine is developed, we will have to live with it. Even if you only leave your house once a week to go shopping, you will have to live with it.
gozunda wrote: » "Lockdown merchants"? Tbh your comment seems to be the result of some highly overactive if fairly bizarre imaginings if nothing else. I really hope you are getting paid to write such rubbish ...
ixoy wrote: » Impossible on public transport though. Not sure when you last got the DART but it was so packed at peak times that you couldn't always get on and that's utilising the entire fleet. We need some way of getting people back in and, since public transport can't facilitate social distancing, we need to either accept a level of risk or bring the idea of mandatory masks out there. Germany is doing this currently - why not Ireland?
Tandey wrote: » Perspex/glass divider between shotgun and driver seat.
kippy wrote: » Agreed. Reduce the risks by doing what it takes to reduce numbers on Public transport and improve conditions for those that are taking public transport. 1. Work from home where possible. A number of companies have told their employees to WFH indefinetly. 2. Stagger shifts/work patterns. 3. Agreed on the masks. I am assuming the issue is currently with supply and training. This is something that should be changed.
easypazz wrote: » Unworkable. Take school buses, double the number of buses? Never going to happen. Pissing rain and train pulls up? Everybody will pile in. Abolish rugby, because 16 lads in a scrum? Never going to happen. Close childrens playgrounds forever? Creches? The list goes on and on.
