Nermal wrote: » https://www.theblogmire.com/is-lockdown-essential-comparing-the-swedish-experience-with-the-imperial-college-model-suggests-otherwise/ Per the Imperial model that led to lockdowns, blue is what should have happened in Sweden if they did nothing. Yellow is what should have happened with moderate restrictions. Red is what actually happened. As Anders Tegnell said - what data are you looking at?
Risteard81 wrote: » I don't know anyone who refers to the RUC as anything other than the RUC.
Risteard81 wrote: » The Free State is NOT IRELAND. It is merely a part of this country which is called Ireland.
TheGoatOne wrote: » Does anyone have any experience in moving house with the current restrictions? Due to move in the next few days and a bit worried that it wouldn't be deemed 'essential travel' with all the extra checkpoints that will be around.
VonLuck wrote: » Can you please stop trying to derail the thread.
Spencer Brown wrote: » Have you been to any of these countries? Ireland is not the same. We have one large city, a significant amount of our population live in houses in the countryside. Spain have at least 30 cities with larger populations than our second city Cork. Galway would barely make the top 100 biggest cities in Spain. Things HAVE to be stricter when you are dealing with that sort of population density. A 2km rule applied to each of those cities would result in never-ending new cases.
Risteard81 wrote: » Complete nonsense. There is no distance limit within the Occupied Six Counties so the RUC have no authority to prevent people crossing the so-called "border". In fact, even exercising within 2km of my own home I could enter the Free State as it is less than 2km from my house. But as I said no such distance limit exists so your post is entirely bogus and you should retract it immediately.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Im struggling to understand the rethoric that the current restrictions are the undoubtedly only way to reduce the effects of Covid. It is clear to see that Sweden have implemented an approach which is preserving life and economy. I've seen response's here to say Swedish death rate is higher per million than neighbour's of theirs but frankly that's totally irrelevant, as the reason the restrictions were implemented was to allegedly prevent hospital's having to admisinster battle field levels of triage and hundreds of thousands dead. The restrictions were introduced because of inherently flawed models and Sweden is the proof. Weather restrictions are lifted or not on Monday, nobody can prove they are the most efficient method of Covid protection
Does anyone have any experience in moving house with the current restrictions? Due to move in the next few days and a bit worried that it wouldn't be deemed 'essential travel' with all the extra checkpoints that will be around.
Penfailed wrote: » Wow. Hahaha! Where do I start with this?! There's no distance restriction in the north but it's still in lockdown meaning people should only be making essential journeys.
The PSNI (not RUC) do have power to turn people back, as do the guards in the south. Don't hold your breath for me to retract my post.
growleaves wrote: » When the guards ask you where you live give them your new address.
Risteard81 wrote: » My essential exercise or shopping etc. can be on any side of the so-called "border". So wrong on that count.I didn't say otherwise. So...not wrong. I have already proven that in British law the RUC does still exist and that the name has been retained. So get with the programme - the last poster had to admit this once I proved it.
growleaves wrote: » Yes, and everyone - literally every single person - should be asking for extraordinary proof to show that the lockdown is justified since it is, on its own terms, a destructive, anti-human policy. Knowing what human nature is like, with people not wanting to change their minds after they such a huge emotional investment in the lockdown, we're more likely to get an explosion of smug, sham-patriotic self-congratulation. Paving the way for future lockdowns.
easypazz wrote: » Bad news for the lockdown brigade today alright.
easypazz wrote: Graphs like that won't suit the lockdown until Christmas brigade
easypazz wrote: This doesn't suit the lockdown forever brigade.
easypazz wrote: Just 388 new cases today, a bad day for the lockdown forever, no pubs until 2021 etc. etc. brigade.
easypazz wrote: The lockdown brigade will freak when they hear that.
easypazz wrote: ...The lockdown brigade bury their head in the sand when it is mentioned.
Birdie Num Num wrote: » This is kind of an attitude I am sensing from some quoters, particularly more rural quarters. Not suggesting where you may reside in that btw. To answer your question yes I have been to all 3 of those countries. Ireland is similar to most other countries, we have larger more densely populated areas and we have sparsely populated areas. Are you suggesting that a packed pub in sparsely populated Tipperary would be less of a risk than a packed pub in Dublin? Should we maybe make decisions regarding restriction based on population density per county and turn a blind eye to the large increases of covid 19 in the likes Cavan and Monaghan recently?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » I also struggle with the astounding lack of transparency from the government. Its a completely anti democratic approach. The sum total of the information is a case rate and death rate that is possibly days or weeks old. The ICU capacity is stable and Dr Tony has yet again repeated only an hour ago if it stays as is there will be no restrictions lifted. As per Ivan Yates earlieer the private hospitals are empty after being forcefully controlled by Mr Harris for 6 months and surgeries and consultations have been cancelled in those facilities for customers who have paid greatly for privatised medical cover, and in most cases people left to suffer at home. The NPHET meeting minutes are also not available for public consumption. Why???? Is transparency not expected in a democracy?
easypazz wrote: » €700m wasted on empty private hospitals. The economic fallout will be huge. Longterm, this lockdown will do far more harm than good.
easypazz wrote: » The economic fallout will be huge.
Gael23 wrote: » Tony Holohan seems to want to turn Ireland into a prison
Deleted User wrote: » It’s not his fault. He has one job. He is asked to look through only one lens. Unfortunately no one in government has the balls to bring any balance to the debate
Gael23 wrote: » He is nit considering the human toll on what he is doing
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