stephenjmcd wrote: » It has worked. The hospitals were not overrun. And in order to prevent them being overrun restrictions will have to continue. At this point its about opening up things as much as possible without impacting the health service negatively. The hard part is figuring out where the balance point is without going on the wrong side of it.
easypazz wrote: » Full lockdown forever if necessary camp so.
DeVore wrote: » Why do people continue to say the lockdown hasnt worked?!
Penfailed wrote: » You simply can't say that it didn't work. The ONLY way to be able to demonstrate that it didn't work is physically impossible as it involves a time machine.
JazzyJ wrote: » It has worked. The hospitals were not overrun. And in order to prevent them being overrun restrictions will have to continue. At this point its about opening up things as much as possible without impacting the health service negatively. The hard part is figuring out where the balance point is without going on the wrong side of it.
easypazz wrote: » Precisely, the lockdown didn't work, and won't work indefinitely.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » It's still possible but as of now they would not be changed. Yesterday there were over 700 new cases reported, that's the reality of where we are. No amount of pretending otherwise puts us in a better place. The real people to direct annoyance at are those breaking the advice with dumb garden parties and the like. They'll be the ones responsible for extension, not the govt.
seamus wrote: » If 200 people leave a town of 20,000 and arrive at a town of 150, the negative impact on the latter is far greater than the positive impact on the former.
the kelt wrote: » Because we were told that the actions we took and the timings of the actions that we took etc were implemented to ensure we did not end up in a situation as bad as Spain. If thats not the case then lets hear it rather than the mixed messages and skewed rhetoric we have received to date. If this isnt working then lets hear it. Lets go back to publishing the minutes of meetings between the NPHET and the Government as was the case up until the 31st of March but has suddenly stopped for some reason. Ive no doubt if those minutes exist it will provide some clarity as to the issues involved in ramping up testing and the decision to shift patients from hospitals to nursing homes and the subsequent spikes that have happened in said nursing homes, maybe theres no correlation at all, maybe there is. Maybe just maybe we arent actually handling this outbreak as well as is being claimed hence the non release of meeting minutes. Or maybe we should just continue on regardless and not ask these questions?
easypazz wrote: » They are also reducing the number of people in built up areas, potentially reducing the spread of risk there and making social distancing more attainable.
ixoy wrote: » Are you of the opinion we can't lift any restrictions on the 5th? The evidence of transmission rate would suggest otherwise. No huge lift obviously, but some small elements rolled back. Most other EU nations are doing this and no, they're not all better than we are.
JazzyJ wrote: » I guess, for some reason, people are expecting the virus to be completely gone with the lockdown and the fact that there still new cases appearing every day seem to think that it's failed. Really they're looking for a quick fix, and there is none. Reality just hasn't hit home. This is going to be a really really long drawn out process unfortunately.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I'm sure restrictions will be eased when lives are protected. We are not there yet.
seamus wrote: » If people go down to holiday homes, they're interacting with local businesses, potentially spreading the virus.
Hogzy wrote: » Because theyre idiots and think they know more from behind their computer screens than people on the frontline who are working to try and contain the virus day in day out!
drunkmonkey wrote: » I'm not a virologist but taking people out of hospital with Covid and putting them into nursing homes was downright stupidity of the highest order. Who made that call, who took the bad advice. Harris was gleeful after solving the trolley crisis, he's a fully fledged idiot.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I'm sure restrictions will be eased when lives are protected.
drunkmonkey wrote: » What is it with Holiday homes, are people determined to not let people visit their second homes, they pay mortgages on them, they contribute to the local economy and help local businesses.
road_high wrote: » We’re in lockdown right now. If it such a successful strategy why aren’t the cases dropping?
Penfailed wrote: » It's really, really easy to say things like this with the benefit of hindsight.
easypazz wrote: » If it has worked then ease restrictions on May 5th.
easypazz wrote: » Its pointless extending it. If it has not worked by now then it has failed. I agree to a phased rollback of restrictions of a period of a month or 2. In the medium term we can all live with social distancing to contain the spread. But this is pointless if it has no worked by now.
