Downlinz wrote: » Some serious rhetoric here I've seen repeated plenty. We can stay at home, only making essential trips out for supplies for as long as is required, it's pretty easy actually. We don't need lattes or to go to bowling alleys. The economic point is debatable. Most businesses are pretty happy at the moment with government paying their workers and shielding them from eating the costs of vastly reduced business, they certainly wouldn't appreciate that being removed until we reach a point where the majority feel confident to mingle in public again. In terms of the national picture, a single lockdown with a steady recovery after is in all of our best interests. A lockdown - open - lockdown ping pong game serves nobody. Not to be callous but in terms of mental health that's an issue for you to deal with. It's a pandemic, it's not a happy time and most people are going to feel the effects of it. If you're only bemoaning boredom and quality of life then I think you're fortunate it's not much worse to be mourning relatives in isolation or fighting for your own life.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » What is your alternative? lock people inside for years and years until there is a vaccine
normanoffside wrote: » Sorry, I Just want to clarify it was Kermit de frog, not Bandit Luke who was talking about toxic joggers sweat on footpaths. I got it wrong Bandit Luke, I apologise.
Benimar wrote: » That won’t work without Strict enforcement of the current lockdown. A number of people have already decided the lockdown is over, to tell them it definitely is on May 5th would only exacerbate the situation, and more people will ‘relax’ The only way to stop more and more people breaking lockdown early is to come down hard on those who do. To be honest I’d support a full lockdown (No movement except for essential supplies) for 10 days at this stage (To keep the idiots off the streets) if it meant current restrictions could definitely be eased on the 5th.
Dickie10 wrote: » so do people agree that restauraunts may open with liited capacity? i wonder will this work and would it be economical? id say they would all be at capacity for the first month mid week and all
alwald wrote: » Nope because this is when I stopped reading your post waffle.
almostover wrote: » People aren't locked inside. A 2km radius circle is a big area. About 12 square kilometers. We've access to all the food and booze we could ever want. TV on demand, internet, deliveries to our door. It's an inconvenience and somewhat socially isolating. But in the short term (3-4 months) it's well within the capabilities of any human with even a modicum of self discipline
RugbyLad11 wrote: » Get on with it and live our lives, adopt the Korean model
Gael23 wrote: » Clearly the lockdown merchants don’t care about people’s mental health and livelihoods going to ruin as a result of these measures
martingriff wrote: » Of course people care about people mental health and the economy (there own jobs) but they also care about not letting this get out of control and another lockdown having to be done. As for people mental health there is loads someone can do. Ring people, plenty of apps to facetime, Skype, of there with your 2km radius give them a wave and hello through the window. I be concerned about domestic violence also but again people can help by reporting anything they hear or see
JoeA3 wrote: » What’s the fcuking point of a post like this other than fishing for a few likes from one of your virtual bunker buddies? Waffle indeed. :rolleyes:
RugbyLad11 wrote: » It's easy for you to say this when you probably live with your family! Some people live alone and are more than 2KM from family and friends
Jurgen Klopp wrote: » I certainly hope you shouted out the window to ask their eircode or paddy green will be disappointed?
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Prime Time had interviews with people in small apartments last night and to say it didn't look pleasant was an understatement. Easy to talk about how simple this is if you have a house, garden, family with you, or are just used to your own company anyway.
trapp wrote: » Waving at someone through a window isn't going to solve losing employment, losing whatever sport or club one might be part of and losing a sense of purpose in their lives which is what many are facing. You haven't a clue my poor friend.
JoeA3 wrote: » I honestly feel that Varadkar, Harris, the CMO and RTÉ are speaking to the nation like we are all fcuking simpleton lemmings. If I hear one of them bleat about “staying the course” or “stay at home” one more time, I swear.... I’m very weary of it. It’s only been 6-7 weeks but it feels like it’s been 6 months. I think the message they are feebly trying to bat us over the head with is rapidly losing meaning. I didn’t see tonight’s CMO conference but Tony was completely ridiculous lastnight. R0 down to near zero. No spread in community for 2 last weeks. Yet he’s speaking to us like some disapproving school teacher, that we’re still on “detention”. The media, including our national broadcaster are putting their own convenient spin on it. Here in the West of Ireland we’ve had the most miserable fcuking 6-7 months of endless rain and storm after storm. The lockdown just happens to coincide with a long overdue decent spell of sunshine. Quelle surprise. People are out and about enjoying the sunshine. Yet this is being reported like the people doing so are villainous cretins. It’s completely ludicrous, a spin to suit an agenda. It’s clear I’m not alone in this, judging by this thread and what I see all around me every day, particularly the last few days. Honestly I probably was a bit nervous about it all for about a week but it’s long since passed. I’m not worried about the virus. I don’t feel threatened by it. I don’t perceive it to be a threat at all in my community. What I am worried about is, what’s going to be left to go back to when this spineless government finally relent and let people get back to their livelihoods. Or what’s left of them.
martingriff wrote: » Mental health is something everyone can help other out and it just not a deal with it yourself problem. You can reach out to people ring them, text then, Skype them, play video game online with them, if they are within your 2km zone a hello through the window and a wave could do wonders. We are in this together
almostover wrote: » All those losses would pale in comparison to losing a loved one to the virus.
doylefe wrote: » The lockdown advocates must not have much else going on in their lives. This is the most interesting thing to ever happen to them. Probably the same gob****es going on about "self isolating" back in early February.
titan18 wrote: » Whatever about the jobs argument as I do empathise with anyone out of work due to the situation although loosening restrictions will do nothing for a lot of jobs anyway imo as tourism is shot for the summer, bars won't be reopened and a lot of people will be fearful of living life as normal. But the mental health argument, and I say this as someone who's attempted suicide multiple times, diagnosed with major depressive disorder and social anxiety disorder, and have been going to therapy for 15 years on and off, is something I really don't buy. We're in a **** situation but it's not unlivable as I've seen a few people saying suicide will increase. We have to social distance but no one here should be fully isolating, you can get out for short bits of exercise and plenty of technology to communicate with people. Either my history (I've gone through longer periods than this with even less social contact, which means this is more than normal for me) has made me more mentally equipped to deal with this, or we've got some serious undiagnosed mental health issues in this country with the rhetoric going around.
