Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Interesting suggestion from you. Many who have been on the receiving end of anti social behaviour would be of the opinion that this would be a very good idea.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » And economists would have no dog in this fight either? No biases at all?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Unless all these people are essential workers or are on essential journeys they are violating the current restrictions and could and should be prosecuted. Simple as that.
road_high wrote: » And I would agree. But this isn’t anti social behavior. It’s decent citizens trying to earn a living and live their lives. Ditch the non sensical restrictions and let people live
Mic 1972 wrote: » What a stupid comment, the law should be respected Other countries set an example of how to handle restrictions and their numbers are definitely looking better than ours
Breezin wrote: » but the piece makes reasonable arguments and asks important questions that no one seems prepared to answer.
Mic 1972 wrote: » People who follow the restrictions are decent citizens, those who dont are violating the rules. Nothing decent about it, just selfishness
road_high wrote: » It’s like an Orwellian nightmare even discussing things with some people. You’d imagine if the state legislated them to jump off a cliff they’d be first over the edge
road_high wrote: » When it’s obvious the “law” is stupid then it should be dropped. Bad law leads to this kind of nonsense we are stuck in now. We have a very poor record in nursing homes- the majority of our problem. This makes damn all difference to that.
timmy_mallet wrote: » So is demanding a lockdown, like many have done here, but dressed up as concern for other people, when it's really themsleves they're worried about.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » It would seem that quite a few posters here are choosing to bury their heads in the sand and still believe this nonsense.
Supercell wrote: » Anecdotal I know, when the lockdown started i could go out for a jog in my local park without having too many detours due to social distancing. Last week I decided to avoid it altogether as the place is full of people picnicing, kids on bikes everywhere etc so I changed to using the paths around the local area, was ok, very few people encountered and with a careful glance I could run on the road to get around them. This week that's gone too, the roads are far more busy, there are far more people on the paths walking around, its not safe or practical to run out on the road every 100 meters or so anymore no matter how cautious. I've taken to early morning runs, but the way things are headed those are going to have to get earlier and earlier. Not anywhere near normal volumes of people out and about but definitely to my mind far more than last week, which had more than the week before and so on. I don't see how social distancing is going to work for everyone in urban areas (not just the joggers!) once the restrictions are lifted. My wife tells me that in China that face masks are obligatory everywhere in public but there is no social distancing for this reason, they seem to have it under control now.
Mic 1972 wrote: » Lockdown is for the benefit of everyone's health, Ireland is very much still at the peak as shown by the daily increase of new cases
Merry Prankster wrote: » Even if, with the benefit of hindsight, we learn that the global lockdowns went too far, they were based upon current best medical knowledge and practice. It they hadn't been introduced and the death toll were much higher, the same critics would be berating governments for not taking it seriously enough. It's easy to forget just how uncertain everything was at the beginning. But sure hindsight is a wonderful thing - if you'd had it a while ago, you might have been able to modify previous comments by yourself, like this one from the 10th March: ...or this one, from the same day... ...or this one, from the 14th March...
Breezin wrote: » In the absence of mass testing in the community, that percentage is meaningless.
normanoffside wrote: » The daily cases being reported recently are largely from Nursing homes which they have started testing. They are riddled with it. It has nothing to do with Lockdown
s1ippy wrote: » My mom is in considerable pain with two broken crowns that she should have gotten looked at ages ago... She's been cuccooning for months now. But she doesn't want to go herself because she's terrified about getting sick. It's hard to watch her pretend she's fine.
Multipass wrote: » My sister just broke a tooth, and the dentist wont see her - she’s not in enough pain apparently.
Mic 1972 wrote: » so, when the numbers are dwindling it's thanks to the lock-down when numbers are rising is has nothing to do with people being sloppy interesting logic
begbysback wrote: » Hang in there till I call Leo and ask can he have the guards start arresting people, hoping that gives you a clearer run in the mornings. And China can be ignored for the foreseeable future.
Supercell wrote: » Your missing my point (which has zero to do about jogging actually - some people here dont seem to believe that there are more on the streets than earlier in the lockdown, thats not the case), my point is that people are increasing ignoring the lockdown rules and this longer that goes on the more that's going to be the case. They are far too restrictive, there needs to be a better way. Sweden seem to be doing alright without such draconian measures, perhaps we should be looking to their approach?
omeara1113 wrote: » If the deaths and the number of cases keep rising like yesterday it's hard to see any easing of restrictions
