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Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

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Cartman78

Anyone who listens to Second Captains has probably already heard this...

Another good thing about signing Timo Werner is that he comes with his own ready made song/chant:

"Timo Werner ist ein Hurensohn" which roughly translates as Timo Werner is a cnut :-)

This apparently comes from his decision to join Leipzig and has gone viral in Germany and even has a rather glorious Eurothrash dance version...https://youtu.be/M4JPvaG-MQU

Fitz*

Hoever was on the bench at the weekend, and not Williams. Is Williams injured?

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Well if that's not a bad sign about his character...he does seem a bit thin skinned.

I don't know search out the Timo Werner song/chant you would need a very thick skin to play every week when fans sing that about you.

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Timo Werner unfollowed RB Germany on Twitter after they posted those two gifs of him as a reaction to Liverpool losing. He now follows no one on Twitter.

Well if that's not a bad sign about his character...he does seem a bit thin skinned.

8-10

I have a feeling he'll go strong with maybe 2/3 changes max.

Not necessarily because he values the game as high at the others, but because he wants the same players to get back on the horse after a few below par performances and a bad defeat.

I reckon the players are p*ssed off at themselves, and rightly so, and I reckon Klopp will give them the opportunity to go and put it right against a good PL side

BullBlackNova

Are we any clearer as to what team Klopp is picking tonight? It had been well sign-posted ahead of the previous rounds but I haven't seen much about tonight's game.

Ive genuinely no issue being eliminated from the FA Cup if it happens but I don't really see the point in doing a half measure solution - surely it would make more sense to either go full strength and try to win or go all youths and if they do it, great but if not, no major issues.

Bournemouth and Atletico are the main focus for me so if that means rotation tonight ahead of those, then so be it.

[Deleted User]

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Ah it was a weak league

:pac:

Ipso Facto

apparently.

machiavellianme

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Timo Werner unfollowed RB Germany on Twitter after they posted those two gifs of him as a reaction to Liverpool losing. He now follows no one on Twitter.

Neither do I.
That's about all we have in common though.

Agent Coulson

Timo Werner unfollowed RB Germany on Twitter after they posted those two gifs of him as a reaction to Liverpool losing. He now follows no one on Twitter.

1o059k7ewrqj3n

Thidp wrote: »

Yes, but numbers aside... that Arsenal might be in fact a better team.

The quality they had was something out of this world.

Ah it was a weak league

:pac:

~Rebel~

Thidp wrote: »

Yes, but numbers aside... that Arsenal might be in fact a better team.

The quality they had was something out of this world.

And particularly the grit. Probably not a better team than either this Liverpool team, or quite a few others, like Utd in 2008, or 99, or City 2 years ago, or Chelsea around 05, 06. But the grit and determination that Arsenal team had to get something out of every single game is impressive.

Tthe invincible season is a measure of what you can do on your worst day, rather than what you can do on your best. Even on their absolute worst day, when things just weren't gelling, and the play was messy and uncoordinated, they still managed to always rescue something.

Thidp

dogbert27 wrote: »

The Invincibles managed 9 wins in a row. We doubled that.

Yes, but numbers aside... that Arsenal might be in fact a better team.

The quality they had was something out of this world.

BoardsMember

I really dont understand why people are getting in any way upset by stats, records, what people say. I will be as happy as Larry when we win the league. I dont care when or how. I just want to win it. I've waited all of my adult life, and then some. I will take it whatever way it comes and it will be sweet as.

~Rebel~

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The more points you win the better if you ask me. The whole point of a league is to accumulate points. City's 100 point season a couple years ago was much more impressive than the "Invincibles" even though they actually lost twice.

I think a side went unbeaten in Serie A in the late 70's and actually finished 2nd.

Yeah, I'd agree the 100 point season is more impressive. But that doesn't mean the Invincibles season wasn't also impressive.

I just don't see the point in trying to put down a thing that was impressive, and it only makes us look more petty as fans, totally playing into peoples 'bantz'. Arsenal did a thing that was kinda cool, we couldn't do it, but thankfully it's not a big deal. But fair play to them for doing it, it's a hard thing to do.

BullBlackNova

Bowlardo wrote: »

Lads which teams do u think will go down and who do you think we will buy from them?
We have had some success in recent years Robertson fro hull
Shaqiri from stoke
Gini from Newcastle

Norwich and Cantwell is the answer to this, I think. I don't know who else we're in the market for but the Cantwell rumour is strong.

If the current bottom 3 go, there's a heap of talent there that could be picked up by top half sides. Definitely not all for us, but a lot of these would be decent in the PL next time around

Norwich - Aarons, Cantwell, Buendia, Pukki
Villa - Heaton, Mings, McGinn, Grealish
Bournemouth - Ake, Brooks, Wilson, King

If one of the sides above the drop gets pulled back in, there'd be plenty of interest to PL sides too.

Watford - Doucoure, Sarr
West Ham - Fabianski, Diop, Rice, Anderson, Lanzini, Antonio, Haller
Brighton - Dunk

I think Cantwell is a very likely target. Beyond that, I've given up trying to predict our transfer business but the names above would do a decent job for quite a few PL sides. There's probably more in there I've not considered too.

Utopia Parkway

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The bigger question is why was our fourth choice playing when by all accounts our third choice was fit? Kind of have to look at Klopp for this one. He obviously saw Deeney as a danger, and thought Lovren's physicality was the best option to deal with him. Hindsight has shown that to be wrong.

Elsewhere, I see a lot of downplaying of Arsenal's invincible season... I don't really understand that. Their 12 draws are kind of irrelevant to the point - they went a full 38 league game season without having an off-day bad enough to lose. That's genuinely incredible, and deserves the reverence it's held in. I mean, we know how good this current Liverpool team is and how consistent they've been, just getting the job done week-in week-out, and even they couldn't do that. It just takes one bad day for that challenge to fail - we couldn't do it, Arsenal could. Fair play to them I say. Ultimately, it's a side achievement, you don't get any extra points for it, and it doesn't mean you're a better team - but it does mean you've managed a level of continuous performance that is to be admired.

The more points you win the better if you ask me. The whole point of a league is to accumulate points. City's 100 point season a couple years ago was much more impressive than the "Invincibles" even though they actually lost twice.

I think a side went unbeaten in Serie A in the late 70's and actually finished 2nd.

Fitz*

I wouldn't be surprised to see John McGinn's name linked with a few top half teams. The pair of Norwich full backs could get moves too.

.red.

Bowlardo wrote: »

Lads which teams do u think will go down and who do you think we will buy from them?
We have had some success in recent years Robertson fro hull
Shaqiri from stoke
Gini from Newcastle

Add in Elliot from Fulham who looks like he'll be a proper baller given time but plenty of lads before him have flopped in the senior game so the jury is still out. He's still got 2 years before he'll probably be an expected regular for us.

Also, Shaqiri has hardly set the world alight, he's had 4/5 great games and countless disappearing acts for us. He'll surely be moved on in the summer. Big wages for very little return.

Gini was a very unexpected big game player for us, I wasn't too excited by his signing but he's got a great mix of skill and workmanship and is usually sorely missed when he doesn't start.

gimli2112

dogbert27 wrote: »

I guess what's irritating is that people are now saying this team is not as good as the Arsenal Invincibles.

We could win every game for the rest of the season, finish on 109 points and the one loss will be seen as a blemish in some quarters.

The Invincibles managed 9 wins in a row. We doubled that.

that's what they want you to think, no-one really believes it though

dogbert27

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yes, but that's the point. It stands out. It's instantly searchable. It's a thing that makes it different from any other team coming second, or in Arsenal's case, someone winning. It's literally extra-ordinary.

I guess what's irritating is that people are now saying this team is not as good as the Arsenal Invincibles.

We could win every game for the rest of the season, finish on 109 points and the one loss will be seen as a blemish in some quarters.

The Invincibles managed 9 wins in a row. We doubled that.

~Rebel~

dogbert27 wrote: »

~Rebel~ wrote: »

This sort of sums it up really - it doesn't mean you're the best team, but it is an incredible thing to do, and is the sole reason why you know who finished second in Serie A in 1978/1979.[

Not really, google told me today, otherwise I didn't have a clue! :pac:

Yes, but that's the point. It stands out. It's instantly searchable. It's a thing that makes it different from any other team coming second, or in Arsenal's case, someone winning. It's literally extra-ordinary.

dogbert27

Bowlardo wrote: »

Lads which teams do u think will go down and who do you think we will buy from them?
We have had some success in recent years Robertson fro hull
Shaqiri from stoke
Gini from Newcastle

We've been linked with Todd Cantwell from Norwich

dogbert27

~Rebel~ wrote: »

This sort of sums it up really - it doesn't mean you're the best team, but it is an incredible thing to do, and is the sole reason why you know who finished second in Serie A in 1978/1979.[/QUOTE]

Not really, google told me today, otherwise I didn't have a clue! :pac:

martyos121

Bowlardo wrote: »

Lads which teams do u think will go down and who do you think we will buy from them?
We have had some success in recent years Robertson fro hull
Shaqiri from stoke
Gini from Newcastle

Based on that article the last day on the Athletic, Buendia from Norwich would appear to be a good option.

~Rebel~

dogbert27 wrote: »

In 1978/79 Perugia went through the season unbeatan in Serie A. They won 11 and drew 19 finishing second to AC Milan who lost 3 games.

Putting undefeated in perspective.

This sort of sums it up really - it doesn't mean you're the best team, but it is an incredible thing to do, and is the sole reason why you know who finished second in Serie A in 1978/1979.

~Rebel~

Owl. wrote: »

I'm afraid to watch that because I nearly cringed myself to death watching the Paisley ones.

Thankfully not a deceased player or manager in sight in this one! It's genuinely really good.

dogbert27

In 1978/79 Perugia went through the season unbeatan in Serie A. They won 11 and drew 19 finishing second to AC Milan who lost 3 games.

Putting undefeated in perspective.

Bowlardo

Lads which teams do u think will go down and who do you think we will buy from them?
We have had some success in recent years Robertson fro hull
Shaqiri from stoke
Gini from Newcastle

Owl.

~Rebel~ wrote: »

After some seriously dodgy ads with a CGI Bob Paisley, Standard Chartered have really upped their game with a great one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qK_Sg1QQgQ

I'm afraid to watch that because I nearly cringed myself to death watching the Paisley ones.

atilladehun

Bowlardo wrote: »

It’s important to note we are an amazing construct d team for relatively cheap but every player relies heavily on other player to improve their game

TAA without hendo drops a level
Robertson without mane drops a level
Mane without Salah drops a level
Vvd without Gomez drops a level
All other cvs with out VVD drop several level
Lovren when he plays drops everyone’s level
Firming doesn’t play Mo and mane drops a level
When we have our best 11 on the bitch we are the best team in the world

Sancho and Werner are must haves . We have to get both

The poor doggy ðŸ•