Parliament is on lockdown after gunshots were heard outside the Palace of Westminster.
robinph wrote: » This thread was already beyond 19 pages within 2 hours of the initial incident and before there was any official statements given about anything at all regarding what had happened, let alone any motive or suspect for it. So quite clear that the location being London was the reason for the fast moving thread rather than who did what. Yes, the nature of the attacker when it became clear in Canada may have caused less people to post as posters were then all in agreement that a right wing nut job was a right wing nut job so there was no longer any point in arguing over religion or extremists from within that religion.
selwyn froggitt wrote: » Robxxx7 wrote: » Most Londoners left years ago .. No they haven't
Robxxx7 wrote: » Most Londoners left years ago ..
selwyn froggitt wrote: » No they haven't
ceadaoin. wrote: » Well there are a lot of terror related arrests happening recently. Obviously the authorities do what they can, but some people slip through the net due to the sheer amount of people on the radar of intelligence agencies. Is this not a problem in itself? How many attacks would there be if the potential terrorists weren't apprehended beforehand? Lucky for us, these people seem to be quite vocal about their intentions.
FrancieBrady wrote: » And why did he do that? Because they are no longer able to launch major attacks. And I also have to say, there are not a lot of people listening and taking action. To listen to people here these attacks should be much more common should they not. But they aren't. Why is that?
Noddyholder wrote: » I don't see it as desperate , I see it as using the tools that are right there in front of them to launch an attack. On Sept. 22, 2014, Abu Mohammed al Adnani, identified by the United States as the head of the Islamic State’s external operations, issued a fatwa calling on the group’s followers in the West to “kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war… [to] kill him in any manner or way however it may be.” This chilling call became something of a marker in the group’s history. Around the world, the Islamic State’s followers read and absorbed it. In some cases, they decided to act...https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj54rHh9ezSAhVBShQKHRdwB3YQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforeignpolicy.com%2F2016%2F03%2F30%2Flone-wolf-isis-brussels-paris-syria-iraq%2F&usg=AFQjCNEkG1AvoqHmwD2QDjpUMYbOLGZggg
FrancieBrady wrote: » I am denying that it was a 'major' attack, or anything like it.The very fact that somebody failed today shows how lucky the guy was yesterday and how desperate it was.If you listened to people on here about the size of this threat, how come we are not seeing this happening every hour? How hard is it to drive a car into the centre of a city and up onto a footpath?
Thomas__ wrote: » You can hardly ignore that what happened yesterday was done on the same pattern like the attacks in Nice and Berlin last year, just that the attacker tried to get into the Houses of Parliament.
Thomas__ wrote: » Robxxx7 wrote: » infogiver wrote: » Londoners had 28 years of the the threat of the IRA and before that the Blitz and no one reacted with "fire" and they won't be treated with "fire" now either. If your living in London as your adopted city and your hiding behind your curtains this morning in fear, then you had better come home to your mother because if you think that there's going to be some kind of concentration camps set up to put all the Muslims in just because your nervous then your going to be very disappointed. London will remain as it ever was. A free democratic city where all the different cultures exist, maybe not in perfect harmony, but with the acceptance that if you want to live there it will be in a civilised fashion where nobody has sn advantage over anyone else because of their colour or creed. Most Londoners left years ago ... and what has been left behind is what we see today ... a mismatch of traditions and cultures and Ghettos that will never integrate unfortunately. Plenty of Londoners were still there, the last time I visited that city, last year. I assume that they are still there today.
Robxxx7 wrote: » infogiver wrote: » Londoners had 28 years of the the threat of the IRA and before that the Blitz and no one reacted with "fire" and they won't be treated with "fire" now either. If your living in London as your adopted city and your hiding behind your curtains this morning in fear, then you had better come home to your mother because if you think that there's going to be some kind of concentration camps set up to put all the Muslims in just because your nervous then your going to be very disappointed. London will remain as it ever was. A free democratic city where all the different cultures exist, maybe not in perfect harmony, but with the acceptance that if you want to live there it will be in a civilised fashion where nobody has sn advantage over anyone else because of their colour or creed. Most Londoners left years ago ... and what has been left behind is what we see today ... a mismatch of traditions and cultures and Ghettos that will never integrate unfortunately.
infogiver wrote: » Londoners had 28 years of the the threat of the IRA and before that the Blitz and no one reacted with "fire" and they won't be treated with "fire" now either. If your living in London as your adopted city and your hiding behind your curtains this morning in fear, then you had better come home to your mother because if you think that there's going to be some kind of concentration camps set up to put all the Muslims in just because your nervous then your going to be very disappointed. London will remain as it ever was. A free democratic city where all the different cultures exist, maybe not in perfect harmony, but with the acceptance that if you want to live there it will be in a civilised fashion where nobody has sn advantage over anyone else because of their colour or creed.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Widdershins wrote: » Why not? The fact that the murder weapons weren't originally created to serve as murder weapons? Not a gun, so not army-like enough to concern you? Cars and knives are readily available improvised weapons and Isil leaders have issued instructions to their soldiers to make use of them. The soldiers aren't kitted out on army combat uniform, and they're not on a government payroll, so they're not taken as seriously. The multitude of foiled plots or attempts are just dismissed. It's a strange form of denial. I am denying that it was a 'major' attack, or anything like it. The very fact that somebody failed today shows how lucky the guy was yesterday and how desperate it was. If you listened to people on here about the size of this threat, how come we are not seeing this happening every hour? How hard is it to drive a car into the centre of a city and up onto a footpath?
Widdershins wrote: » Why not? The fact that the murder weapons weren't originally created to serve as murder weapons? Not a gun, so not army-like enough to concern you? Cars and knives are readily available improvised weapons and Isil leaders have issued instructions to their soldiers to make use of them. The soldiers aren't kitted out on army combat uniform, and they're not on a government payroll, so they're not taken as seriously. The multitude of foiled plots or attempts are just dismissed. It's a strange form of denial.
Snake Plisken wrote: » I'm sure that's real comforting to know for the victims from yesterday, Brussels, Nice Paris etc!
bubblypop wrote: » Thankfully we are living in one of the safest times ever in Europe, you should be glad
Robxxx7 wrote: » Most Londoners left years ago ... and what has been left behind is what we see today ... a mismatch of traditions and cultures and Ghettos that will never integrate unfortunately.
The Backwards Man wrote: » There was an attack in Hell's Kitchen during the week too that fell under of the radar of our more concerned critics of radical terrorism in all its guiseshttp://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/suspect-midtown-knife-killing-surrenders-cops-article-1.3005263 I wonder why
FrancieBrady wrote: » Seriously, a haphazard attack in a rented car and a with a kitchen knife and another haphazard aborted/incompetent one in Belguim hardly indicates an escalation or deserves the description of 'major'.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A 'mismatch'? It is no different to any other massive city in the world.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Snake Plisken wrote: » well this would be a Europe wide operation, how come nearly every attack that happens in Europe the scum that carry out the attack has been know to the authorities? Also European armies and police need to break up these so called ghettos and no go zones in France Belgium, Sweden etc. It would be great if this happened and some of the countries had the balls to do it but as we know from experience they won't! They won't because even though you don't see it, it is a protection of your civil rights too. Ad hoc internment is just the stupidest wrongheaded way to go.
Snake Plisken wrote: » well this would be a Europe wide operation, how come nearly every attack that happens in Europe the scum that carry out the attack has been know to the authorities? Also European armies and police need to break up these so called ghettos and no go zones in France Belgium, Sweden etc. It would be great if this happened and some of the countries had the balls to do it but as we know from experience they won't!
jackofalltrades wrote: » I'd consider myself centre right, far right extremists aren't within my "own ranks".
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