dublinjock wrote: » The real winners are yet to be shown, if the UK dont brexit what will come out of the ashes is a large proportion of England becoming nationalist in view. That chancer Farage is the least to worry about. You would want to worry about who is behind him.
After the referendum he was reported to have made $300m at his fund, and told the BBC of his success: “There’s that Italian expression, ‘Al mattino ha l’oro in bocca’ — the morning has gold in its mouth.”
dublinjock wrote: » Im finding it all bizarre to be honest. The UK house of commons has proved to be undemocratic. Im still the same on the EU being undemocratic. You can vote through the post or by proxy, get someone to do this for you. If you google it your find its quite easy to do. But i dont think voting will change anything.
dublinjock wrote: » Yes im aware the PM does not have to be an MP. This is wrong totally wrong. In Scotalnd our first minister is not an MP Nicola Sturgeon.
Seth Brundle wrote: » The questions that I put to you are now the outcome of Brexit. If you are not qualified to answer them then why on earth did you choose to change from the status quo by voting leave? As for NI and the two governments, there is only one government forcing the introduction of a border. However, Ireland has never said that it would not protect its trade as a member of the EU. In fact Ireland has maintained a consistent position in terms of the border - it does not want one but should one be imposed by the UK leaving the EU then Ireland and the EU will defend the union. The idea that there won't be one despite different regulatory areas is childish nonsense and shows the level of immaturity by the UK in its defence of the Brexit scam. The UK is the one diverging. Only the UK! And it is not doing it for the benefit of it's citizens. There will be very few winners and they are all already very wealthy. The vast majority of UK citizens will lose out. In addition, you are likely seeing the final days of the UK as you know it!
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » So you actually think I (or any member of the public) can vote for the members of the UK upper house? clucking bell!
dublinjock wrote: » I told you why i voted to leave, you dont accept or agree with it so lets leave it at that. I wouldn't mind independence from London/UK. I voted to leave the UK as well as the EU. But if i was to bet my money would be on Scotland staying in the UK. But maybe Brexit will give us our independence from the UK.
woohoo!!! wrote: » All these self confirmed experts on the EU, how it works, more than likely wouldn't have had a clue 3 years ago.
woohoo!!! wrote: » I don't see why posters are giving dublinjock a hard time. All these self confirmed experts on the EU, how it works, more than likely wouldn't have had a clue 3 years ago. I just see a poster trying to make sense of the mess who says he voted Brexit, presumably being one of many who fell for the lies of the leave campaign. Or precisely the type of Brexit voter who could change their mind.
VinLieger wrote: » Beyond the incredibly broad and objectively inaccurate reason of the EU being undemocratic why else do you want to leave it may I ask?
Inquitus wrote: » Operation Yellowhammer is uphttps://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf
dublinjock wrote: » I want to be unshackled from London, i dont then want to be shackled to the EU.
dublinjock wrote: » woohoo!!! wrote: » I don't see why posters are giving dublinjock a hard time. All these self confirmed experts on the EU, how it works, more than likely wouldn't have had a clue 3 years ago. I just see a poster trying to make sense of the mess who says he voted Brexit, presumably being one of many who fell for the lies of the leave campaign. Or precisely the type of Brexit voter who could change their mind. Thanks but i wont be changing my mind. The forum is the same as people in thr UK everyone is an expert everyone knows best. Im finding many wonyt talk about there views because of the grief they get.
Call me Al wrote: » You didnt do your research, and based your vote on inaccurate and misleading information. You placed your trust in your politicians, and you expected them to act in the national interest, but they turned out to be ignorant arrogant con-men and shysters who have left a trail of destruction in their wake. They have proved to be at best duplicitous and at worst potentially treasonous. Personally I can't understand why you're not hopping mad that your trust/vote has been abused and thrown back in your face, whilst being used as justification for a no-deal Brexit, and the fallout that will ensue, when that was never your expectation or understanding of the process.
dublinjock wrote: » Thanks but i wont be changing my mind. The forum is the same as people in thr UK everyone is an expert everyone knows best. Im finding many wonyt talk about there views because of the grief they get.
woohoo!!! wrote: » Fair enough, it's good to see the other side of an argument and not confine oneself to an echo chamber.
VinLieger wrote: » woohoo!!! wrote: » I don't see why posters are giving dublinjock a hard time. All these self confirmed experts on the EU, how it works, more than likely wouldn't have had a clue 3 years ago. I just see a poster trying to make sense of the mess who says he voted Brexit, presumably being one of many who fell for the lies of the leave campaign. Or precisely the type of Brexit voter who could change their mind. Asking questions on what they have posted and correcting misinformation about the EU, UK and Brexit is hardly giving them a hard time.
VinLieger wrote: » Apologies if I've come across as antagonistic but im honestly really curious as to why you dislike the EU so much.
dublinjock wrote: » Yes your right i so agree i gace my MP instructions and they threw it in my face. You cannot trust polictins this you are right. I am hoping mad we voted to leave yet i dont think we will. This is all going to end badly. I only expected for the referendum to be honored i was a fool.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Having read through that document(I wonder what paragraph 15 says.) ...
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » Which MP, I thought you were resident in Ireland?
17 Low income groups will be disproportionately affected by any price rises in food and fuel.
