Magic Mushrooms have just been made Illegal in Ireland

Akrasia · 31-01-2006, 14:11

In the last half hour, Nature has been criminalised on the emerald Isle, the Nanny state has decreed that they are too dangerous for us idiot citizens, perhaps we should all go out and play hurling or go mountaineering or go for a nice healthy walk even though those wholesome activities have killed and injured more people than magic mushrooms ever have.

jcoote · 31-01-2006, 14:12

do they not grow here???

hows that gonna work???

*Sleipnir* · 31-01-2006, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Akrasia

In the last half hour, Nature has been criminalised on the emerald Isle, the Nanny state has decreed that they are too dangerous for us idiot citizens, perhaps we should all go out and play hurling or go mountaineering or go for a nice healthy walk even though those wholesome activities have killed and injured more people than magic mushrooms ever have.

Yeah it'll affect hundreds of thousands of people across the land. The farmers will stop farming and sun won't rise tommorw.

"Hey, they've made fresh mushies illegal"
"Sh!te. Hey isn't that the Seven Horsemen of the Apocalypse over there?"

Akrasia · 31-01-2006, 14:16

they're illegal for sale or posession, I presume they're not illegal if they grow in your garden as long as you don't pick them. I don't know what the deal with grow kits is though but they're still legal to sell in the U.K. so they're probably ok here as well

KerranJast · 31-01-2006, 14:19

I'm not into mushrooms and I'd don't see the point in taking them or any other drug, but they should just have imposed a mandatory 18 year old rule on them. I guarantee you there will now be more deaths from people taking mushrooms they get on the black market from dealers or by mistakenly eating poisonous ones / toadstools that they pick themselves. At least the shops had control over what was sold and warned people not to mix them with alcohol. This is pure electioneering by the Govt.

base2 · 31-01-2006, 14:23

Cool, now I can get that sexy illicit rush when I take my mushrooms knowing that its illegal.

Akrasia · 31-01-2006, 14:28

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Originally Posted by base2

Cool, now I can get that sexy illicit rush when I take my mushrooms knowing that its illegal.

it was already illegal to take them, just not to have them or sell them

base2 · 31-01-2006, 14:29

Its never illegal to take drugs. Just to be in possesion of them.

Morrigan · 31-01-2006, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Akrasia

In the last half hour, Nature has been criminalised on the emerald Isle, the Nanny state has decreed that they are too dangerous for us idiot citizens, perhaps we should all go out and play hurling or go mountaineering or go for a nice healthy walk even though those wholesome activities have killed and injured more people than magic mushrooms ever have.

Where did you hear/read about this, Akrasia?

Akrasia · 31-01-2006, 15:23

it was on liveline today, yesterday they devoted the whole show to magic mushrooms after an angry parent called in because her 15 year old daughter had a bad trip so Mary Hearney decided to make them illegal today and she seems to have timed her decision to give liveline the exclusive. It's blatant electioneering.

**rubadub** · 31-01-2006, 15:29

I doubt the law passed through in the "last half hour", the decision may have been made.

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Originally Posted by Akrasia

I don't know what the deal with grow kits is though but they're still legal to sell in the U.K. so they're probably ok here as well

Depends on what you mean by grow kit. If you mean a kit with spores and sterile grain then yes it is legal (still grey area). If you mean a ready colonised kit you add water to then no it is certainly illegal. They sold them here and they were technically illegal here since they were dehydrated, nothing was done about that AFAIK.
Kits with spores are a grey area since it is can be seen as intent to manufacture. A spore seller in the US was busted since he had grow information on his site, others say the spores are for study with a microscope only.

dathi1 · 31-01-2006, 15:34

So we had a fairly workable situation with mushrooms being sold via vendors in Dublin and Cork to people going to festivals, house parties, rural meet ups etc. One gob****e throws himself off a building and bang! Harney's on the political capital prohibition bandwagon again.
result? : More money for Dublin based gangsters to move in on the scene.
Everybody's happy. Harney, Ahern....Politicians in general, The Gardai, the Gangsters and that big ego guy who writes books on them who's name escapes me.

The mexican truffles were great

**Dave!** · 31-01-2006, 15:39

Excellent -- more merchandise for drug-dealers to make money from!

What's the government's response when it's put to them that alcohol and cigarettes kill thousands every year?

F*cking imbeciles...

RE*AC*TOR · 31-01-2006, 15:44

I would have thought that allowing the current situation to grow a little bit, would have been wise on the part of the government. They didn't have to legalise anything as it was already legal, so it could have served almost as a test case for potential future relaxation of cannabis laws.

Having said that, MMs probably have a less broad appeal - so therefore fewer people would be interested in taking them - but also a far greater social stigma - associated with hallucinations in general.

It never seemed like a tenable situation in Ireland though, where the Late Late Show demographic still holds most of the influence.

sudzs · 31-01-2006, 15:48

I agree !!! I heard that the family of the guy who jumped off a balcony went up to Mary Harney with some mushies and said "Look, these things killed my brother, will you ban them?" And she did just that.

Can I bring her into a car dealer/pub/tobacconist and say "Look, my brother was killed by these things, will you ban them???"

I think not. Typical bloody kneejerk reaction.

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Akrasia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,654 Adverts \| Friends	Magic Mushrooms have just been made Illegal in Ireland In the last half hour, Nature has been criminalised on the emerald Isle, the Nanny state has decreed that they are too dangerous for us idiot citizens, perhaps we should all go out and play hurling or go mountaineering or go for a nice healthy walk even though those wholesome activities have killed and injured more people than magic mushrooms ever have.

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31-01-2006, 14:12	#2
jcoote Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ballyfermot,dublin Posts: 3,867 Adverts \| Friends	do they not grow here??? hows that gonna work???

31-01-2006, 14:16	#4
Akrasia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,654 Adverts \| Friends	they're illegal for sale or posession, I presume they're not illegal if they grow in your garden as long as you don't pick them. I don't know what the deal with grow kits is though but they're still legal to sell in the U.K. so they're probably ok here as well

31-01-2006, 14:19	#5
KerranJast Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,130 Adverts \| Friends	I'm not into mushrooms and I'd don't see the point in taking them or any other drug, but they should just have imposed a mandatory 18 year old rule on them. I guarantee you there will now be more deaths from people taking mushrooms they get on the black market from dealers or by mistakenly eating poisonous ones / toadstools that they pick themselves. At least the shops had control over what was sold and warned people not to mix them with alcohol. This is pure electioneering by the Govt.

31-01-2006, 14:23	#6
base2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 358 Adverts \| Friends	Cool, now I can get that sexy illicit rush when I take my mushrooms knowing that its illegal.

31-01-2006, 14:29	#8
base2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 358 Adverts \| Friends	Its never illegal to take drugs. Just to be in possesion of them.

31-01-2006, 15:23	#10
Akrasia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,654 Adverts \| Friends	it was on liveline today, yesterday they devoted the whole show to magic mushrooms after an angry parent called in because her 15 year old daughter had a bad trip so Mary Hearney decided to make them illegal today and she seems to have timed her decision to give liveline the exclusive. It's blatant electioneering.

31-01-2006, 15:34	#12
dathi1 Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,648 Adverts \| Friends HMod: XFM	So we had a fairly workable situation with mushrooms being sold via vendors in Dublin and Cork to people going to festivals, house parties, rural meet ups etc. One gob****e throws himself off a building and bang! Harney's on the political capital prohibition bandwagon again. result? : More money for Dublin based gangsters to move in on the scene. Everybody's happy. Harney, Ahern....Politicians in general, The Gardai, the Gangsters and that big ego guy who writes books on them who's name escapes me. The mexican truffles were great

31-01-2006, 15:39	#13
Dave! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 20,676 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Non Drinkers Group	Excellent -- more merchandise for drug-dealers to make money from! What's the government's response when it's put to them that alcohol and cigarettes kill thousands every year? F*cking imbeciles...

31-01-2006, 15:44	#14
REACTOR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On The Beach Posts: 7,096 Adverts \| Friends	I would have thought that allowing the current situation to grow a little bit, would have been wise on the part of the government. They didn't have to legalise anything as it was already legal, so it could have served almost as a test case for potential future relaxation of cannabis laws. Having said that, MMs probably have a less broad appeal - so therefore fewer people would be interested in taking them - but also a far greater social stigma - associated with hallucinations in general. It never seemed like a tenable situation in Ireland though, where the Late Late Show demographic still holds most of the influence.

31-01-2006, 15:48	#15
sudzs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UKland Posts: 1,365 Adverts \| Friends	I agree !!! I heard that the family of the guy who jumped off a balcony went up to Mary Harney with some mushies and said "Look, these things killed my brother, will you ban them?" And she did just that. Can I bring her into a car dealer/pub/tobacconist and say "Look, my brother was killed by these things, will you ban them???" I think not. Typical bloody kneejerk reaction.