N11/N25 - Oilgate to Rosslare Harbour [route options published]

jd wrote: »

From today's Wexford People. I've been part of tailbacks myself. Maybe some type of free flow for left turning traffic would help in the short/medium term

Agreed though they have plenty of space to create a new Ross destination only lane at that roundabout

They could also do with a gardai there every evening to stop people using the right turn lanes for going straight, a couple of weeks and the word gets round will sort that aspect of the problem out

Wexford has always gotten a pretty good deal roads wise mainly because of the port and EU finding. Certainly far better than neighboring Kilkenny where I now live for example- In the 80/90s money was poured into the N11, N80, N30 and N25. Especially in context of the traffic figures which aren’t at critical levels compared to some other roads around.
Once the New Ross and Enniscorthy bypasses are done then the critical list is checked in co Wexford. The N11/25 south of Wexford town is not busy and is of a very reasonable standard- the Wexford bypsss itself needs attention as roundabout and junction improvements but building a whole new road? Dozens of more critical projects need funding ahead of it in my opinion

It is, but it was a bit of a stupid oversight to end the motorway about 2km north of Oilgate, no matter what way you look at it. Now, there will be another town further south that would whinge if the 2km extension had happened, but it wouldn't be as close as Oilgate is to the end as it stands.

Taking the scheme from Phase 1 - Concept Feasibility through to Phase 2 Route selction, Phase 3 Design and Phase 4 Statutory Process

http://www.tiipublications.ie/library/PE-PMG-02041-01.pdf

JupiterKid wrote: »

Do you know (or does anyone know?) if the Oylgate by-pass will be a 2+2, D2, motorway or just a wide S2?

Doesn't say in the article.

Motts have picked this up again

marno21 wrote: »

Groundhog day in their offices.

Rinse, repeat, money for Jam

marno21 wrote: »

A timeline. Wonderful

Initial public consultation - end 2019
Routes public consultation - 2020
ABP submission - 2022

Award of Tender - 2023?
Road Open - 2026?

The Government are great at telling us all the good work that they are planning to do!

Apologies as this is a bit of a hatchet job...

Out of curiosity (and boredom) I stitched the maps together and overlayed them onto a google maps screen-grab.
They're not lined up perfectly, but you get the idea.

But this might not be the final route at all isn’t that right?

loyatemu wrote: »

they're supposedly starting from scratch with the route, but I'd imagine the first thing they'll do is look at the route chosen in 2010 and see if it's still viable.

Nothing has changed so it’s unlikely they’ll find anything different to 2010

Wouldn't do much for the Ferrycarrig area to have s motorway going through it.

vicwatson wrote: »

Who changed them and why were they changed anybody know?

I think the information is at
https://publicspendingcode.per.gov.ie/

In September 2013, Departments and Offices were formally notified by circular that the Public Spending is in effect.

Back on track - info from local paper online - wex people

“CHANGES to the pro­posed route for the new Oil­gate to Ross­lare Har­bour mo­tor­way would be a ‘fright­en­ing sce­nario’ for many peo­ple, ac­cord­ing to Fianna Fail coun­cil­lor Garry Laf­fan.
Cllr. Laf­fan was speak­ing at a lo­cal au­thor­ity meet­ing after a progress re­port was pre­sented on the road project which has re­ceived €800,000 in fund­ing for ad­vance plan­ning and de­sign work.
A 300 me­tre-wide plan­ning cor­ri­dor is cur­rently in place for the scheme fol­low­ing the pub­li­ca­tion of a Route Se­lec­tion Re­port in 2011.
Ac­cord­ing to the re­port, the new stud­ies ‘ will ad­dress the broader project study area to iden­tify key con­straints and to ex­am­ine al­ter­na­tive op­tions’.
‘The cur­rent plan­ning cor­ri­dor will re­main in place un­less or un­til a dif­fer­ent preferred op­tion is con­firmed’, it con­tin­ued.
The preferred scheme is ex­pected to be fi­nalised in 2020 with the project likely pro­ceed­ing through the statu­tory plan­ning pro­cesses by the end of 2022.
‘Peo­ple are wor­ried about whether there are go­ing to be changes’, said Cllr. Laf­fan. ‘A lot of peo­ple are tied down by the 300 me­tre cor­ri­dor. To bring other peo­ple back into it, would be a fright­en­ing sce­nario for a lot of peo­ple. We need to al­le­vi­ate peo­ple’s con­cern about this’.
Fine Gael coun­cil­lor John He­garty asked if there are plans to re­vise the cor­ri­dor route and was in­formed by the Mayor, Cllr. Ge­orge Lawlor that be­cause of the time de­lay, it has to be looked at again but it would prob­a­bly be the cho­sen route.
‘All these things have to be looked at again. The preferred route went through a long process to get to this. There may be tweaks. I would as­sume it would fol­low the route process al­ready un­der­taken’, said Act­ing District Man­ager Diar­muid Hous­ton.
‘Are we check­ing that ev­ery­thing that has hap­pened be­fore is cor­rect’, said Cllr. He­garty.
He was told by Bor­ough En­gi­neer Sean Ka­vanagh that it states in the re­port that the op­tions may vary.
Mott McDon­ald Ire­land were ap­pointed tech­ni­cal ad­vi­sors to as­sist with the de­vel­op­ment of the project through the pro­cesses up to plan­ning.
En­vi­ron­men­tal sur­veys will start in Au­gust as part of the fea­si­bil­ity and op­tion se­lec­tion process.
There will be ‘non in­tru­sive walk-over sur­veys’ by en­vi­ron­men­tal spe­cial­ists and ac­cess will be re­quired to some pri­vate lands to con­duct these sur­veys.
The Coun­cil will en­gage with af­fected landown­ers in ad­vance to se­cure per­mis­sion for the sur­veys.
Sur­veys will be car­ried out through the project study area and the lo­ca­tions of sur­veys will not in­di­cate pos­si­ble route op­tions for the scheme.
It is an­tic­i­pated that an ini­tial pub­lic in­for­ma­tion and con­sul­ta­tion ex­er­cise will start to­wards the end of this year with fur­ther con­sul­ta­tion pro­cesses in 2020

marno21 wrote: »

Scheme website launched @ http://oilgate2rosslareharbour.ie/

Outline timeline from Mott McDonald:

early 2020 - initial public consultation
late 2020 - selection of preferred route
2021 - design / EIS
2022 - planning

These dates are ambitious but Mott McDonald did the planning on this in 2011 so will have the data from back then as a useful asset to inform the new planning application.

More money down the drain given all this work was already undertaken and there has been no material change. This is a waste of taxpayers money imo