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  • #352
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    1chippy wrote: »
    This thread seems to be forgotten about so i thought i might bring it back up. Sorry if you didnt want to see it again but personally i liked it. If i'm not being too cheeky would there be any chance we could discuss suckler handling facilities, wintering sheds, calving gates, etc. kinda want to get a bit done on my own set up before winter kicks in and all suggestions welcome.

    We have a small doorway at the exit of the yard, we use it to draft the calves from the cows to dose the calves. Cows need to have a bit of an appetite for grass so they run through easily, leaving the calves behind in the yard;)

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #353
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I put a side door off the gable end pen in the slatted house this Spring. This has greatly improved the flow of cattle in and out. Then within the door there is a smaller door that acts as a creep gate for calves. I'll take a few pictures later


  • #354
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    I think this thread died when someone mentioned 'Profit Monitors'. He turned around then and everyone was making for the nearest gate.


  • #355
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    The tread died because only a few threw their hat in the ring. Plenty went home with hats though


  • #356
    J DEERE
    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Been working away steadily here on calving pens, creep gates/areas and sheds for the last couple of weeks. The weather has forced us in out of the fields and into the sheds. No harm in a way because we used to always leave it until last minute to get everything in order for housing. Downside now is everything has been housed again so work has hit a standstill.

    Main goals for this year is improving creep facilities. Will have about 20 Autumn calves due in the next 12 weeks. I'd be hoping to have a pen on slats for them when they go in as they will be 8-10 weeks old heading in. The cows will get 2kg of ration until they go back in calf (AI). After that I'll be feeding the calves. The creep area will just be a place where they can go and eat silage and ration without competing with the cows at the barrier. They will have a separate straw bedded area for lying. Also in the process of setting up the yard so that I can get these calves out to grass in early Feb. A creep gate will be set up leading out onto the roadway. Once its properly fenced they can access any paddock on the farm.

    Been working on calving pens lately. Have two calving pens at the moment serving 45 cows (25 spring/20 autumn). Works out at about 12 cows to a pen. In the process of making 2 more pens, not really for calving but more so bonding areas for cows after they calve. Will be needed anyway as we build numbers, hoping to calve down 60 in 2014. A calving gate divides the two calving pens which enables us to use the gate from either side. Looking into buying a calving camera now, something compatible with internet and smartphone. Have shelves on the wall near the calving pen, handy for leaving ropes, iodine, lubricant, tags etc on just to have everything on hand.

    We buy in 30-40 calves in Feb/Mar, mainly Friesian bulls. Up to now we have been using the immersion for inside to mix milk but will convert an old milking parlour/dairy this year and install a water heater for mixing milk. Can see this being worthwhile as I see myself rearing calves every year and will probably increase the numbers I rear in the future. Been considering buying some autumn born calves to see how we get on with them.

    Have invested time and money in handling facilities, roadways, fencing and paddocks over the last couple of years. Its the simple things which really make a difference. Everything is now set up in the way one man can do everything by himself which is important as myself and the father both work part-time off-farm. Good facilities ease the stress on man and beast. During the week, I dosed and injected up to 60 weanlings in an hour without breaking a sweat. Have two crushes, one indoor and one outdoor. The indoor crush was made specifically for calves and weanlings whilst the outdoor crush is used for larger animals.

    Will upload a few pictures when I get the chance but there's my hat in the ring for the time being...


  • #357
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Muckit wrote: »
    The tread died because only a few threw their hat in the ring. Plenty went home with hats though
    I would be guilty of taking the hat home with me , and mostly thats because im still trotting after the father doing things his way which is why I dont have alot to add to this thread . Our set up would be miles behind what some of ye boys have on the go and not productive at all really :o
    But I find it a brilliant read and fair play to everyone that has added their experience and knowledge to it .


  • #358
    1chippy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    I'm currently changing a section of an old slatted shed for autumn calvers. Its a three bay double two over tanks, one dry. I am going to put a three foot gate in the middle of the dividing gate on the slatted section and a creep through to the dry bay. I am making up a narrow sectioned feed barrier with a small headlocking gate to one end (mini crush) at the dry section. hopefully allow for feeding strong calves but not let them out through it. What spacing should i be keeping these horizontal bars at. Am i mad leaving leaving the dividing barrier between the two slatted pens or should i just rip them out. i thought it would be handy for sorting animals and say allowing if i had one pen calved i could allow for the other still to be isolated . Any suggestions, ive been getting ost of my info of you lads so you might as well keep on sharing.


  • #359
    Manoffeeling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    I went for a walk on my farm today and was amazed at how little grass is on it. I sold all the cattle on July 1. I thought I might be able to get a few bales or something, even though I spread no manure! I might get someone to put cattle on it if it dries.


  • #360
    J DEERE
    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    1chippy wrote: »
    I'm currently changing a section of an old slatted shed for autumn calvers. Its a three bay double two over tanks, one dry. I am going to put a three foot gate in the middle of the dividing gate on the slatted section and a creep through to the dry bay. I am making up a narrow sectioned feed barrier with a small headlocking gate to one end (mini crush) at the dry section. hopefully allow for feeding strong calves but not let them out through it. What spacing should i be keeping these horizontal bars at. Am i mad leaving leaving the dividing barrier between the two slatted pens or should i just rip them out. i thought it would be handy for sorting animals and say allowing if i had one pen calved i could allow for the other still to be isolated . Any suggestions, ive been getting ost of my info of you lads so you might as well keep on sharing.

    Are the dividing barriers removable?

    As for the feed barrier, you only want enough space for them to be able to get their head out so I'd be saying 15inches maybe. Should be enough room for them to put their head out but narrow enough to catch them at the shoulders if they try to get out.


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  • #361
    J DEERE
    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Manoffeeling wrote: »
    I went for a walk on my farm today and was amazed at how little grass is on it. I sold all the cattle on July 1. I thought I might be able to get a few bales or something, even though I spread no manure! I might get someone to put cattle on it if it dries.

    I've never seen as bad a year for grass growth, its at a virtual standstill. Lads who have been farming for over 40 years have been saying they never remember a year like this. Its worse than 09, its just the fact that milk price and cattle prices have stayed relatively good may be disguising it. The most efficient farmers are struggling to manage grass this year


  • #362
    KCTK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    J DEERE wrote: »
    Are the dividing barriers removable?

    As for the feed barrier, you only want enough space for them to be able to get their head out so I'd be saying 15inches maybe. Should be enough room for them to put their head out but narrow enough to catch them at the shoulders if they try to get out.

    Could you leave them normal width incase you want to use the pen for bigger cattle in the future some time, you could clamp on an 1" 1/2 straight bar up say half way along the horizontal barrier and this would stop the small cattle from getting through?


  • #363
    Farm Master
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Farm Master


    Have been threating to put in a new crush for the last few years as the old one was put up when we were milking and is not suitable for the stock on the farm now, I am farming sucklers through to beef (Angus, 15 cows) and was wondering wheather to go for a fully automatic gate or semi-automatic and what make. Cashels seems to be the most popular round here.


  • #364
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    J DEERE wrote: »
    I dosed and injected up to 60 weanlings in an hour without breaking a sweat...

    Do you use a standard syringe J DEERE?

    I seen Adam on countryfile injecting sheep a few months ago. He had a backpack fed gun type syringe. The syringe refilled itself and needle protruded and retracted by pulling a trigger. Thought it a great idea.

    Anyone using something like this for cattle? Is it a success? Recommend any specific brand etc?

    thanks

    Muckit


  • #365
    Dont be daft
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭Dont be daft


    Muckit wrote: »
    Do you use a standard syringe J DEERE?

    I seen Adam on countryfile injecting sheep a few months ago. He had a backpack fed gun type syringe. The syringe refilled itself and needle protruded and retracted by pulling a trigger. Thought it a great idea.

    Anyone using something like this for cattle? Is it a success? Recommend any specific brand etc?

    thanks

    Muckit


    Yeah, we use one for the black leg vacine. But its not backpack fed.
    The vaccine container sits on top and its a handgun kind of shape as your holding it.
    Squezze the hand grip to inject and it reloads automatically on a spring when you release the handgrip.

    Very handy if your dosing a big group. Its gonna save you at least half a minute per animal.
    Was injecting without it a while ago and I only realised then how much time it was saving me.
    Ideal for vaccines cos it only loads up a few ml, think the max is 6/8ml

    Worth its weight in gold


  • #366
    J DEERE
    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Muckit wrote: »
    Do you use a standard syringe J DEERE?

    I seen Adam on countryfile injecting sheep a few months ago. He had a backpack fed gun type syringe. The syringe refilled itself and needle protruded and retracted by pulling a trigger. Thought it a great idea.

    Anyone using something like this for cattle? Is it a success? Recommend any specific brand etc?

    thanks

    Muckit

    Yea just use a standard syringe and leave the bottle on a barrel as I go along. Using Animec this year, bought a special promo pack 2ltrs for 140 and came with a self-filling syringe and cap for the top of a bottle. Always found that I spend more time injecting with them than if I was just filling a standard syringe.

    Have vaccinated using these before. A great piece of equipment for vaccinating


    http://www.buyritesolutions.ie/proddetail.php?prod=AE0211


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  • #367
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    I put a side door off the gable end pen in the slatted house this Spring. This has greatly improved the flow of cattle in and out. Then within the door there is a smaller door that acts as a creep gate for calves. I'll take a few pictures later
    Here it is over on the photo thread. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79824243&postcount=2308


  • #368
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I see in da comic that Justin is leaving and going to work with ABP, I wish him all the best there, wonder what he'll be doing there. Also there will be 36 farmers in the better farmers group, it's been expanded to include non-suckler beef farmers, and 2 pages!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #369
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    blue5000 wrote: »
    ...I see in da comic that Justin is leaving ...
    He'll be a big loss. Beef editor was a fairly influential position. How long was he with them? It doesn't seem that long.


  • #370
    nashmach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I see in da comic that Justin is leaving and going to work with ABP, I wish him all the best there, wonder what he'll be doing there. Also there will be 36 farmers in the better farmers group, it's been expanded to include non-suckler beef farmers, and 2 pages!

    No big surprise - his role has been advertised now for a few months.

    Good to see the BETTER programme expanded to non-suckler farms IMV.


  • #371
    MfMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I see in da comic that Justin is leaving and going to work with ABP, I wish him all the best there, wonder what he'll be doing there. Also there will be 36 farmers in the better farmers group, it's been expanded to include non-suckler beef farmers, and 2 pages!

    What's he going doing with ABP? Element of taking the Queen's shilling about this move I'd say?


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  • #372
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I see in da comic that Justin is leaving and going to work with ABP, I wish him all the best there, wonder what he'll be doing there. Also there will be 36 farmers in the better farmers group, it's been expanded to include non-suckler beef farmers, and 2 pages!

    Every county will now have a "better farm". This will allow for more land quality specific research and demonstration. A good thing in my view.


  • #373
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    pakalasa wrote: »
    He'll be a big loss. Beef editor was a fairly influential position. How long was he with them? It doesn't seem that long.

    poacher turned gamekeeper so. Do you really think the beef editor is an influential position either now or going forward?


  • #374
    majorsharpes
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭majorsharpes


    We buy in 30-40 calves in Feb/Mar, mainly Friesian bulls. Up to now we have been using the immersion for inside to mix milk but will convert an old milking parlour/dairy this year and install a water heater for mixing milk. Can see this being worthwhile as I see myself rearing calves every year and will probably increase the numbers I rear in the future. Been considering buying some autumn born calves to see how we get on with them.

    sorry i'm confused did u mean to make an entire cattle shed out of the parlour? just curious bout other ideas as like most other beef farmers who left dairy in the past 2 decades, we have a perfect building in the middle of the yard collecting dust


  • #375
    majorsharpes
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭majorsharpes


    majorsharpes wrote: »
    We buy in 30-40 calves in Feb/Mar, mainly Friesian bulls. Up to now we have been using the immersion for inside to mix milk but will convert an old milking parlour/dairy this year and install a water heater for mixing milk. Can see this being worthwhile as I see myself rearing calves every year and will probably increase the numbers I rear in the future. Been considering buying some autumn born calves to see how we get on with them.

    sorry i'm confused did u mean to make an entire cattle shed out of the parlour? just curious bout other ideas as like most other beef farmers who left dairy in the past 2 decades, we have a perfect building in the middle of the yard collecting dust

    scratch that last one there lads i was trying to qoute a fella and i messed it up


  • #376
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    majorsharpes wrote: »
    scratch that last one there lads i was trying to qoute a fella and i messed it up
    You can delete a post ;)


  • #377
    J DEERE
    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    Have any of ye weaned Spring calves yet? Debating it here at the moment. The cows and calves have to come back in this evening due to ground conditions and short supplies of grass. I've been creeping the calves the best I can, they're eating 1kg of meal at the moment. They creep under a wire and high stake pulled halfway across the paddock. The cows have been marching up and down this wire, poaching and its only a matter of time before they break it I reckon.

    Grass is running scarce here and demand is building daily. Had Spring calvers in for two weeks in July hoping to build covers but no such luck. Cut silage about 10-12 days ago but no regrowth. Stocking rate of 1.8LU/Ha. The Autumn calvers are starting to calve and I have Friesian bull weanlings that I hope to have fit for sale in about 6-8 weeks. I'm thinking with the way the year has gone, weather etc the best option might be to wean the Spring weanlings and prioritise what grass I have for weanlings and Autumn calvers. I can feed the Spring cows silage and straw for maintenance. The calves were wormed about ten days ago, no signs of coughing at the minute.

    Would the Spring weanlings thrive better if they were getting fresh grass and 2kg of a 14% ration as opposed to being housed again, left on the cows and getting ration? Basically, would grass be better than milk for these weanlings at the moment. And would weaning these calves two months earlier than normal affect weight at say 12 or 15 months?


  • #378
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    J DEERE wrote: »
    Have any of ye weaned Spring calves yet? Debating it here at the moment. The cows and calves have to come back in this evening due to ground conditions and short supplies of grass. I've been creeping the calves the best I can, they're eating 1kg of meal at the moment. They creep under a wire and high stake pulled halfway across the paddock. The cows have been marching up and down this wire, poaching and its only a matter of time before they break it I reckon.

    Grass is running scarce here and demand is building daily. Had Spring calvers in for two weeks in July hoping to build covers but no such luck. Cut silage about 10-12 days ago but no regrowth. Stocking rate of 1.8LU/Ha. The Autumn calvers are starting to calve and I have Friesian bull weanlings that I hope to have fit for sale in about 6-8 weeks. I'm thinking with the way the year has gone, weather etc the best option might be to wean the Spring weanlings and prioritise what grass I have for weanlings and Autumn calvers. I can feed the Spring cows silage and straw for maintenance. The calves were wormed about ten days ago, no signs of coughing at the minute.

    Would the Spring weanlings thrive better if they were getting fresh grass and 2kg of a 14% ration as opposed to being housed again, left on the cows and getting ration? Basically, would grass be better than milk for these weanlings at the moment. And would weaning these calves two months earlier than normal affect weight at say 12 or 15 months?
    Sounds like it's what you need to do to manage your current situation. The only other option which might be available to you is house the cows and calves and let the calved out by day


  • #379
    Tora Bora
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    J DEERE wrote: »
    Have any of ye weaned Spring calves yet? Debating it here at the moment. The cows and calves have to come back in this evening due to ground conditions and short supplies of grass. I've been creeping the calves the best I can, they're eating 1kg of meal at the moment. They creep under a wire and high stake pulled halfway across the paddock. The cows have been marching up and down this wire, poaching and its only a matter of time before they break it I reckon.

    Grass is running scarce here and demand is building daily. Had Spring calvers in for two weeks in July hoping to build covers but no such luck. Cut silage about 10-12 days ago but no regrowth. Stocking rate of 1.8LU/Ha. The Autumn calvers are starting to calve and I have Friesian bull weanlings that I hope to have fit for sale in about 6-8 weeks. I'm thinking with the way the year has gone, weather etc the best option might be to wean the Spring weanlings and prioritise what grass I have for weanlings and Autumn calvers. I can feed the Spring cows silage and straw for maintenance. The calves were wormed about ten days ago, no signs of coughing at the minute.

    Would the Spring weanlings thrive better if they were getting fresh grass and 2kg of a 14% ration as opposed to being housed again, left on the cows and getting ration? Basically, would grass be better than milk for these weanlings at the moment. And would weaning these calves two months earlier than normal affect weight at say 12 or 15 months?

    Think Justin wrote something about that in this weeks Journal. Reckoned a calf of 230kg or more if I remember correctly, is better off on grass and meal, than sucking the cow. I'm planning early weaning myself, to try maximise what I have left by way of grass etc,.


  • #380
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    OP can you hang on till the end of the month? Summer mastitis might cause problems in the cows.
    What age/ weight are the spring born calves?

    Have you spread N on the aftergrass?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #381
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    With most discussion groups under way for their second year, I thought it might be interesting to resurect this thread.

    What did people talk about in their most recent meeting.

    Ours was last week and we focused on calving and health within the first month for calves. (Our group has a late calving average). We also spoke about minerals pre calving. Vet spoke about the importance of iodine bolus after the wet year for calf health, preventing cows retaining cleanings and cow fertility.

    Vet also spoke about the importance of biestings as well as the dangers of importing biestings from other farms. She also gave a run down on the quality of biestings and the general trend from her was that biestings from a dairy cow contain only half of the antibodies of a suckler cow.

    She also did a big run down on scour and it turned out that the vast majority of the group do not vaccinate against scour.

    Very positive meeting - learned an awful lot.


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  • #382
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    A very valuable lesson is being learnt in our 'inside the farm gate' little discussion group...... ie putting a value on grazed grass.

    Below is an example which is demonstrating how steps taken in 2012 are literally 'paying off' presently in spring in 2013.

    Last summer some of you may recall that I posted pics of some grazing ground that got too heavy and subsequently baled. In a normal year the cattle would have been allowed in to graze it, they would have wasted a lot of it and I'd have had to come in with the topper afterwards. I'd also have been chasing my tail topping extra paddocks as the ripple effect of this went onto the following paddocks.

    I was cutting meadow at the same time so got contractor to cut this at same time. I got 35 extra bales off this grazing ground, costing €11 a pop each to make. No additional fertilizer was applied to this ground like the meadow. Only 'hassle' to me was bringing them in, but it was a short draw as they were literally beside the yard.

    I threw up a few posters locally (cost = €0) and have been selling these bales locally from the yard now the past few weeks @ €30 a pop. Every time a lad comes in with a small builder trailer and I load 2 on, I'm shoving €60 into my back pocket. These 35bales will not only pay for themselves, but will pay for 60 bales for my own use, with minimal extra hassle or expense.

    I think it's eventually starting to sink in with the oul lad now :rolleyes: He's mad to get the weanlings out this spring so we'I have more bales to sell!

    It's imperative that livestock farmers put a value on grazed grass. If it's not there, then what's the substitute?


  • #383
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    reilig wrote: »
    .... She also gave a run down on the quality of biestings and the general trend from her was that biestings from a dairy cow contain only half of the antibodies of a suckler cow.....
    Not just dairy cows, but very milky suckler cows. I think you can see it in the colour of the beastings. The darker the yellow colour, the better....I think anyway.


  • #384
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Not just dairy cows, but very milky suckler cows. I think you can see it in the colour of the beastings. The darker the yellow colour, the better....I think anyway.
    I never knew that , you learn something new everyday


  • #385
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Not just dairy cows, but very milky suckler cows. I think you can see it in the colour of the beastings. The darker the yellow colour, the better....I think anyway.

    That's 100% right.
    She said "cows bred to produce milk" - I never even took milky sucklers into account, but should have!


  • #386
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Grass was our main topic. Heard of a place that let in a bunch of sheep over the winter to graze the long grass off one field for FREE! Naturally they went everywhere. There will be no grass on that farm till mid April at the earliest.

    A lot of people wondering if it is paying to keep suckler cows at all, especially with the heavy bulls not being wanted anymore.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #387
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    blue5000 wrote: »
    A lot of people wondering if it is paying to keep suckler cows at all, especially with the heavy bulls not being wanted anymore.

    Ah now now off you go... don't be coming on here with that sort of oul chat rising the head of moderators!! :P

    but I kinda agree with you


  • #388
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Muckit wrote: »
    Every time a lad comes in with a small builder trailer and I load 2 on, I'm shoving €60 into my back pocket.

    says he to the taxman:D


  • #389
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Muckit wrote: »
    I threw up a few posters locally (cost = €0) and have been selling these bales locally from the yard now the past few weeks @ €30 a pop. Every time a lad comes in with a small builder trailer and I load 2 on, I'm shoving €60 into my back pocket. These 35bales will not only pay for themselves, but will pay for 60 bales for my own use, with minimal extra hassle or expense.

    I think it's eventually starting to sink in with the oul lad now :rolleyes: He's mad to get the weanlings out this spring so we'I have more bales to sell!
    QUOTE]

    I suuppose they are all paying you by cheque:o

    Nice one Muckit.


  • #390
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Muckit wrote: »
    Ah now now off you go... don't be coming on here with that sort of oul chat rising the head of moderators!! :P

    but I kinda agree with you

    There's not future in any type of farming other than dairying if you believe everything that people write on here. ;)

    If there's one thing we should learn from farming from the last 100 years, it's that nobody has been able to predict what the future holds and what's predicted rarely happens and if it does, it's only by chance and not through planning :p

    Future will be what you make it :D


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  • #391
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    reilig wrote: »
    If there's one thing we should learn from farming from the last 100 years, it's that nobody has been able to predict what the future holds

    I think it's gas how bull beef was being pushed so hard for the last few years. Anyone that wasn't at it, wasn't at anything. Now only last week, a big article in the comic about castration! That bulls are out of favour because too expensive to get contentials bulls finished under 16mths without a lot of labour intensive grass management, meal and €€€€.

    Also the article on showing the correct injection site locations.... a fine big CH bullock!

    Feck all mention of Italy this or that now!!!!! :p

    Your right.... who could have predicted it!! (me:D:D)


  • #392
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Muckit wrote: »
    I think it's gas how bull beef was being pushed so hard for the last few years. Anyone that wasn't at it, wasn't at anything. Now only last week, a big article in the comic about castration! That bulls are out of favour because too expensive to get contentials bulls finished under 16mths without a lot of labour intensive grass management, meal and €€€€.

    Also the article on showing the correct injection site locations.... a fine big CH bullock!

    Feck all mention of Italy this or that now!!!!! :p

    Your right.... who could have predicted it!! (me:D:D)

    When other rush in one direction walk quietly in the opposite mind you I am casterating weanling fresian and light 2YO's somthing I have not done in years. It is more to reduce workload for a year or so.


  • #393
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    When other rush in one direction walk quietly in the opposite mind you I am casterating weanling fresian and light 2YO's somthing I have not done in years. It is more to reduce workload for a year or so.
    Agree with you Pudsey, now may be the time to target the Italian market! Demand is the same but if everyone moves elsewhere supply will dip....






    (now where are those blue straws?! :D)


  • #394
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Muckit wrote: »

    Your right.... who could have predicted it!! (me:D:D)

    can I get in on the I told you so's aswell.

    Was thinking a while back when we were at bulls around early nineties up to around 05, they used to leave a nice few quid. Why wouldnt they, as we got a premium of I think £180 and we used to be feeding them crimp barley on grass costing £100 a ton and we used to be sparing it at that price!! Grain costs per animal were probably around £60 - 70 only, compared to today costs????


  • #395
    rancher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    Muckit wrote: »
    I think it's gas how bull beef was being pushed so hard for the last few years. Anyone that wasn't at it, wasn't at anything. Now only last week, a big article in the comic about castration! That bulls are out of favour because too expensive to get contentials bulls finished under 16mths without a lot of labour intensive grass management, meal and €€€€.

    Also the article on showing the correct injection site locations.... a fine big CH bullock!

    Feck all mention of Italy this or that now!!!!! :p

    Your right.... who could have predicted it!! (me:D:D)

    Wasn't there a lot of those good weanlings on that boat out of waterford lately because the Italians didn't have the money to pay for them


  • #396
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    rancher wrote: »
    Wasn't there a lot of those good weanlings on that boat out of waterford lately because the Italians didn't have the money to pay for them
    ah NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:rolleyes:


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  • #397
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    Weighed a few 11 month part bulls yesterday, 530, 528, 510 and 480 kgs, what kind of money would they make in the mart I wonder?U and R grade.
    Or would I be as well to finish them myself at this stage?


  • #398
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Don't know what they'd make in the mart. Could you take them in and find out? If you are not happy sure they are well on target for finishing over the summer.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #399
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    johnpawl wrote: »
    Weighed a few 11 month part bulls yesterday, 530, 528, 510 and 480 kgs, what kind of money would they make in the mart I wonder?U and R grade.
    Or would I be as well to finish them myself at this stage?
    Thats super weight ,are they getting much nuts ?


  • #400
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    I've no box and I'd have to take a day off work so it's hassle for me to bring them to the mart. They're on 6 kg a day of beef nuts and off aaxbrfr cows.


  • #401
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    johnpawl wrote: »
    I've no box and I'd have to take a day off work so it's hassle for me to bring them to the mart. They're on 6 kg a day of beef nuts and off aaxbrfr cows.
    Impressive weights there John. Are they far off finishing do you think?. What about getting a factory agent out to have a look at them?


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