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'Sherlock' actor latest victim of political correctness witch-hunt
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Massively so. People are losing their sh-t on this thread about other people losing their sh-t.My name is URL wrote: »Is political correctness static or something?
It seems to have become more fashionable and 'correct' to rant and rave about political correctness these days.
Some people do look for offence, but others look for people who look for offence.
To me, a white person, the term "coloured" doesn't seem problematic - Benedict Cumberbatch was probably thinking the same thing.
However, black people (and Asian people) see it as having darker (sorry!
:pac:) connotations, as is their right. There's the fashion now of, ironically, forcing free speech on people - well that should include people having the right to take exception to something. To me, it's just a word. That doesn't mean it doesn't have deeper resonance for others though.
I do think people should not just jump to view Benedict as a racist though, when he obviously isn't.0 -
Person of colour sounds so formal or something. I prefer to do that thing where you point out small details to identify a person.
The guy with the earring. .
The girl with the bag over there.
Much easier to say fat, white guy.
God knows what people say about me. 0 -
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Venus In Furs wrote: »Massively so. People are losing their sh-t on this thread about other people losing their sh-t.
Some people do look for offence, but others look for people who look for offence.
To me, a white person, the term "coloured" doesn't seem problematic - Benedict Cumberbatch was probably thinking the same thing.
However, black people (and Asian people) see it as having darker (sorry! :pac:) connotations, as is their right. There's the fashion now of, ironically, forcing free speech on people - well that should include people having the right to take exception to something.
I do think people should not just jump to view Benedict as a racist though, when he obviously isn't.
The point is there's no outrage aimed at Cumberbatch - this whole episode is being blown up by people wanting to use terms like "politically correct brigade", etc.0 -
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So if I meet my mate back home whose skin is a different colour to mine what am I to do so as not to cause offence?
If i look at him will he think i'm racist. If I put out my hand to shake his will he think, oh yeah white boy, trying to prove you're not racist by looking like you care about years of slavery. I'm baffled here...
Why are you pretending stuff that wasn't implied was implied? The discussion is about language, nothing else. Look at your friend's face as you normally do and which has never caused offence and never will, shake his hand as you have normally done and which has never caused offence and never will.
Yup.Judging by the OP, it seems the only people getting worked up are the people who are trying to use this as an example of PC correctness gone mad. His / her level of outrage is way worse than the original outrage.
Black obviously.Benedict, he's a decent skin.
So, can anyone please advise what is the politically correct and socially acceptable term for a coloured person these days?
Or Asian, Hispanic... you know this, right?0 -
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Venus In Furs wrote: » Why are you pretending stuff that wasn't implied was implied? The discussion is about language, nothing else. Look at your friend's face as you normally do and which has never caused offence and never will, shake his hand as you have normally done and which has never caused offence and never will.
Yup.
Black obviously.
Or Asian, Hispanic... you know this, right?
If you're referring to all minorities you can't just call them black. That would be offensive!0 -
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Venus In Furs wrote: »Black obviously.
Or Asian, Hispanic... you know this, right?
Somebody better tell the NAACP they are being politically incorrect, and pronto.
naacp.org/pages/our-mission0 -
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Karl Stein wrote: »Surprise surprise. 'Segregation' turns up much the same results that the term 'colored segregation' does. Thanks, you just underscored the very point I was making. The word 'coloured/colored' harks back to a time when 'coloureds' were second class citizens by law through segregation and perhaps that's why Eggsbenedict Cucumberbanana apologised for using it.
You can put a slew of words in with segregation and achieve the very same result.
But thanks for articulating your spittle flecked outrage at this naked act of racism, as you clearly see it.0 -
He doesn't see it as a naked cat of racism from what I can tell (this is part of this whole thread; accusations of PC outrage when there isn't any, or at least there's far less than is claimed), just explained why people expressed distaste when Benedict used the term.
You can put a slew of words in with segregation and achieve the very same result.
But thanks for articulating your spittle flecked outrage at this naked act of racism, as you clearly see it.0 -
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ireland.man wrote: »No one sees it as a 'naked act of racism'! You're projecting again
"I feel the complete fool I am and while I am sorry to have offended people and to learn from my mistakes in such a public manner, please be assured I have.
"I apologise again to anyone who I offended for this thoughtless use of inappropriate language about an issue which affects friends of mine and which I care about deeply 0 -
Adamantium wrote: »Yes he was trying to say non white actors/actresses having a hard time getting roles. White is the absence of any distinct colour. He didn't want to say black because he knew that would only cause the same sort of outrage he is now getting anyway and people would lynch for that.
It wouldn't be grand in the slightest if he specified, it would have much worse, he said "colour" to cover himself and he still got it. That is so sad. There is huge breadth of skin tone out there and he was being inclusive if anything.
You can't just ignore the entire history of the word "coloured!" It's not just a neutral, innocent way to describe anyone non-white. It has negative connotations for African Americans, particularly in relation to segregation.
Hence why some people pointed out that what he said might be offensive to some, and why he apologised politely.
Why people in this thread have imagined a completely non-existent wild liberal outrage against Cumberbottom that they keep referring to despite providing no evidence for its existence is truly baffling. 0 -
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The King of Moo wrote: »You can't just ignore the entire history of the word "coloured!" It's not just a neutral, innocent way to describe anyone non-white. It has negative connotations for African Americans, particularly in relation to segregation.
Hence why some people pointed out that what he said might be offensive to some, and why he apologised politely.
Why people in this thread have imagined a completely non-existent wild liberal outrage against Cumberbottom that they keep referring to despite providing no evidence for its existence is truly baffling.
Apologised politely? Don't make me laugh.
I see plenty of evidence of the perennial menacing undertone and self righteousness that clearly prompted such a wildly over the top apology.
A mans gotta eat.0
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