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What was Irelands lowest moment?

  • 11-06-2013 1:57am
    #1
    ColeTrain
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    There's plenty to choose from here I'm afraid. It can be measured whatever way you want.

    From the banking crisis and the world watching as we went into meltdown, to the Church scandals, to Crystal Swing performing on the Ellen Show.


    What do you think?


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  • #2
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Electing Bertie Ahern and Fianna Fail in 1997 was a day of absolute shame


  • #3
    Bipolar Joe
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    About ten to twelve thousand years ago when the ice age ended.


  • #4
    Napper Hawkins
    Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    It was between now and sometime around the Big Bang.


  • #5
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    when scilachii scored in italia 90


  • #6
    ColeTrain
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    Napper Hawkins wrote: »
    It was between now and sometime around the Big Bang.
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    About ten to twelve thousand years ago when the ice age ended.

    Personally I would have went for something like this


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  • #7
    ColeTrain
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    downonthefarm wrote: »
    when scilachii scored in italia 90

    I wasn't old enough to fully understand it but heartbreaking stuff I'd imagine.

    Losing to Spain in penalties at the 2002 WC was low.


  • #8
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The day St Paddy arrived?


  • #9
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    The famine?


  • #10
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    I wasn't old enough to fully understand it but heartbreaking stuff I'd imagine.

    Losing to Spain in penalties at the 2002 WC was low.

    hooland in 94 was bad too,total anti-climax


  • #11
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    The famine?

    Probably that alright.
    New question then, What was Ireland's lowest moment besides The Famine?


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  • #12
    LiamMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    Dunmore Cave
    http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/1b/30/f7/photo-by-ryan-brenizer.jpg


  • #13
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    LiamMc wrote: »
    Dunmore Cave
    http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/1b/30/f7/photo-by-ryan-brenizer.jpg

    Dunmore Cave is a moment? I must have missed that.


  • #14
    ONeill2013
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭ONeill2013


    Who knows? i'm sure no member has been around since the first day of human settlement.
    My prediction is the day the rubber bandits were formed.


  • #15
    Xavi6
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    P.S I Love You

    Nepotism, badly written book, diddly eye movie.


  • #16
    BillyMitchel
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    downonthefarm wrote: »
    when scilachii scored in italia 90

    The Henry handball was worse.


  • #17
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Probably that alright.
    New question then, What was Ireland's lowest moment besides The Famine?

    The civil war.


  • #18
    donegal_road
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    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Probably that alright.
    New question then, What was Ireland's lowest moment besides The Famine?

    Cromwellian conquest of Ireland.
    The impact of the war (Cromwell) on the Irish population was unquestionably severe, although there is no consensus as to the magnitude of the loss of life. The war resulted in famine, which was worsened by an outbreak of bubonic plague. Estimates of the drop in the Irish population resulting from the Parliamentarian campaign vary from 15–25%,[7] to half and even as much as five-sixths. The Parliamentarians (Cromwellians) also deported about 50,000 people as indentured labourers.

    Link


  • #19
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    When so called medical professionals left a sick pregnant woman to die last October in a hospital in Galway. Recently that's the lowest.


  • #20
    Cody Pomeray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    The plantations.

    Normans and uppity Dubliners inside the Pale we could live with.

    The plantations really brung it, though.

    I know the Civil War has been said, but the Plantations created a pervasive civil division that has managed to survive entire centuries, and to this day leaves Irish people grappling in the dark for a national identity we will probably never recover.


  • #21
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    The Famine


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  • #22
    NIMAN
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    I'd say the child abuse. No contest.


  • #23
    ilovebiology
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭ilovebiology


    Ann Doyle leaving The News?


  • #24
    kjl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    P.S I Love You

    Nepotism, badly written book, diddly eye movie.

    The book wasn't that bad. I didn't see the movie.


  • #25
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvCK2o6Zbo


  • #26
    ilovebiology
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭ilovebiology


    For me I think it would be austerity that has been forced on the people. In my lifetime, I think that's the lowest time for Ireland


  • #27
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    In my lifetime the lowest point as a nation was the death of Savita Halappanavar by being refused an abortion because Ireland is a catholic country.


  • #28
    apollo8
    Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭apollo8


    Devalera signing the book of condolence for Hitler...............Shocking!:(


  • #29
    MyPeopleDrankTheSoup
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    going cap in hand to the IMF


  • #30
    Martyn1989
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    Probably miwadigate


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  • #31
    con1421
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    The Thierry Henry handball


  • #32
    mikemac1
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    con1421 wrote: »
    The Thierry Henry handball

    Yep and then Sepp Blatter laughed about Ireland being the 33rd team


  • #33
    Push Pop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Push Pop


    IMF rolling into town and then having to listen to patronising commentary from our past collonial masters and bloomberg etc.


  • #34
    was.deevey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭was.deevey


    Dustin the Turkey representing us in the Eurovision must rank pretty high on the list.


  • #35
    THall04
    Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭THall04


    The Stardust fire and how the families of the victims were treated in the aftermath.


  • #36
    osarusan
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    Northern Irish atrocities such as the Omagh bombing, Miami showband shootings and so on. Hepatitis C scandal, never-ending clergy abuse and cover-up stories, bank bailout, death of Savita Halappanavar.

    Moments of genuine shame for this island in the eyes of the world. (Bailout perhaps less so because it wasn't only us).


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  • #37
    pragmatic1
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    Becoming the testing ground for colonisation. A lot of really horrific things happened to Irish people over the years.


  • #38
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Not rounding up and imprisoning those members of the clergy who abused, or who colluded in or covered up the abuse of, children. A bunch of rapists and enablers walking around like they're still some kind of moral authority makes me sick.


  • #39
    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Electing Bertie Ahern and Fianna Fail in 1997 was a day of absolute shame

    to be fair haughey was doing the same for many years before bertie


  • #40
    darlett
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭darlett


    kylith wrote: »
    Not rounding up and imprisoning those members of the clergy who abused, or who colluded in or covered up the abuse of, children. A bunch of rapists and enablers walking around like they're still some kind of moral authority makes me sick.

    Yeap. How we've dealt with people who have done great wrong against the citizens since we got our independence. The afore-mentioned clergy. The absolute power of Dev and his moulding/corroding of the education system and standards. Haughey and his island and his silk shirts. The high-flying politicians and builders. Even Mr clean Kenny breaking new salary caps to give his personal adviser a pain rise (might have take that advice with a pinch of salt). Turns out our Mr. Fix-its are about as trustworthy as Jimmy.

    Failure to learn from mistakes and a failure to have the self-discipline required to rule ourselves.


  • #41
    bumper234
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    ilovebiology wrote: »
    For me I think it would be austerity that has been forced on the people. In my lifetime, I think that's the lowest time for Ireland


    THIS.

    Royal Irish wrote: »
    In my lifetime the lowest point as a nation was the death of Savita Halappanavar by being refused an abortion because Ireland is a catholic country.

    THIS.
    apollo8 wrote: »
    Devalera signing the book of condolence for Hitler...............Shocking!:(

    THIS.
    georgiecasey wrote: »
    going cap in hand to the IMF

    THIS
    Push Pop wrote: »
    IMF rolling into town and then having to listen to patronising commentary from our past collonial masters and bloomberg etc.


    THIS.
    THall04 wrote: »
    The Stardust fire and how the families of the victims were treated in the aftermath.


    THIS.

    osarusan wrote: »
    Northern Irish atrocities such as the Omagh bombing, Miami showband shootings and so on. Hepatitis C scandal, never-ending clergy abuse and cover-up stories, bank bailout, death of Savita Halappanavar.

    Moments of genuine shame for this island in the eyes of the world. (Bailout perhaps less so because it wasn't only us).


    THIS

    kylith wrote: »
    Not rounding up and imprisoning those members of the clergy who abused, or who colluded in or covered up the abuse of, children. A bunch of rapists and enablers walking around like they're still some kind of moral authority makes me sick.

    AND THIS.

    I hate this thread because in only 3 pages it has reminded me of why there are days i am ashamed to be Irish :(


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  • #42
    vitani
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    Electing Bertie Ahern and Fianna Fail in 1997 was a day of absolute shame

    Re-electing them in 2007. I actually cried the evening of that election.


  • #43
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    "Peig Sayers" , that book still gives me nightmares.


  • #44
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Electing Bertie Ahern and Fianna Fail in 1997 was a day of absolute shame

    Actually 2007 was even more shameful given that we knew so much more about the antics of Bertie and Ray Burke and Charlie Haughie and Pee Flynn and Liam Lawlor and Bev Flynn and Ivor Callelly and Denis Foley

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #45
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    vitani wrote: »
    Re-electing them in 2007. I actually cried the evening of that election.

    Me too

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #46
    Colash
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    Has to be the sex abuse scandals in the church . Or the chronic rise in gangland crime , killings and activity . Although I'm not really sure this could have been avoided or averted


  • #47
    LuckyLloyd
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    Colash wrote: »
    Has to be the sex abuse scandals in the church . Or the chronic rise in gangland crime , killings and activity . Although I'm not really sure this could have been avoided or averted

    Jaysus some people really can't see beyond what was in the papers recently.

    Ireland is in great shape at the moment relative to the totality of its history. Maybe 2001 was our nadir to date? But all things considered, this is a golden age for Ireland relatively speaking.

    Famine, Cromwell, Penal Laws, Plantations, The War of Independence, early decades of the Free State and Catholic Church transgressions of the time - so much shameful history to choose from that involved people being killed or marginalised because of their religion or personal life choices. Williams and the Sunday World trying to sell their latest book off the back of an imaginary 'Gangland Crime Crisis' (Ireland is one of the safest countries in the world) pales in comparison and warrants no mention in this thread.


  • #48
    Grand Moff Tarkin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    Lot of self hating Irish people on this thread. Also a very important fact that a lot of people have conveniently overlooked is this great little nation of ours is still less than one hundred years old. Remember we kicked the English out and invited a bunch of skirt wearing freaks who answered to Rome to help run things and it is only since they lost their power have any great social changes been made for the better. As for the corrupt politicians also to be expected when you put people into power who have no right and even less ability to represent the state first day and have an electorate who vote in the children and grand children of these chancers because they fixed the road or helped young Tommy Mac out with his court case.

    I can only hope the up and coming generation of Irish people can make things better and learn from the mistakes of the first hundred years and make this country a great a strong nation.

    Rant over


  • #49
    Colash
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Jaysus some people really can't see beyond what was in the papers recently.

    Ireland is in great shape at the moment relative to the totality of its history. Maybe 2001 was our nadir to date? But all things considered, this is a golden age for Ireland relatively speaking.

    Famine, Cromwell, Penal Laws, Plantations, The War of Independence, early decades of the Free State and Catholic Church transgressions of the time - so much shameful history to choose from that involved people being killed or marginalised because of their religion or personal life choices. Williams and the Sunday World trying to sell their latest book off the back of an imaginary 'Gangland Crime Crisis' (Ireland is one of the safest countries in the world) pales in comparison and warrants no mention in this thread.
    I guess your right . But you have to admit it's far from imaginary ! It's a very real problem . Drugs trafficking , money laundering , killings ., etc etc . It's all here


  • #50
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The Love Ulster Parade riot in 2006 shamed us on a national scale. The sickening thing was that the international media, from New York to New Zealand, painted the perpetrators as Republicans making political points rather than what they were, absolute opportunistic scum buckets intent on causing havoc and looting.


    Oh and Jedward.


  • #51
    Dyr
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    I'd imagine the ould famines were fairly low points.


    For a lot of people here twould have to be the crown forces leaving the 26 counties in '22 :p


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