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The Breast Feeding Support Thread
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Congrats on babs murdy wurdy!
I didn't have to pump exclusively but I know 2 people who did used a medela double pump. I think fenugreek helps keep supply up too? I always say it to anyone who pumps full time you are absolutely amazing! I never was able for pumping.
Thanks! I just want to get as much breast milk into him as possible, at least for a little while.
The midwife was just here and also recommended that pump, so great to have that backed up! She was also impressed with the amount I 'm pumping so I'm feeling a lot more confident now.
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MurdyWurdy wrote: »Thanks! I just want to get as much breast milk into him as possible, at least for a little while.
The midwife was just here and also recommended that pump, so great to have that backed up! She was also impressed with the amount I 'm pumping so I'm feeling a lot more confident now.
Oh that's great... Like piper said its well worth seeing an ibclc lactation consultant of you want to get him latched back on. They have great tricks sometimes. Sometimes its not possible too though
My nipples were shredded with C I used shields for awhile but she got c on almost painfree. I had to pump from one side for the first few weeks and I never got much!
She had a liptie so that made it harder for her to suck but after a few weeks she just got the hang of it... And then a few months ago she fell banged her mouth severed the liptie and bled everywhere. Painfree nipples since
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I expressed for 7 months for my first daughter. Its time consuming but its totally worth it if breastfeeding directly doesn't work. But as your baby is still small I would first see lactation consultant ( rule out tongue tie, correct position etc) as its soooo much easier to breatfeed. I'm feeding my second daughter now- I didn't have easy start but I was very determined to make it work and for last couple of months ( she is 5 months ) its a bliss.
If you decide to pump, there is good few websites with advice how to keep up the supply. And yes pump will be your best friend as you need to express very regularly ( day and night for couple of months). I used the madela hospital grade ( rented ) its very quiet.
I was taking fennugreek, fennel tea loads of oats. Also its important to mimic baby's nursing habits ( as you have to fool your body to make milk as it was baby suckling). Try to do clustar pumping at evening etc.
So good luck, it can be done. You are a great mummy 0 -
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Has anyone night weaned an almost 1 year old? Everything I've read suggests getting dad to rock baby and soothe them but my oh gets up for work at 530/6am and drives a lot for work whereas I'm a SAHM so it's not really practical. Just wondering did anyone do it without dads help? I'm just wondering if me picking her up and soothing her without giving her boob will drive her mad. CIO or controlled crying are not for me.
I was reading on another forum today about night weaning and dr jay Gordon's method was suggested. I've no idea what exactly involves, but it definitely does not involve any controller crying or that kinda crap.
Starting to consider night weaning here as well, so I'm interested in any other suggestions 0 -
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I was reading on another forum today about night weaning and dr jay Gordon's method was suggested. I've no idea what exactly involves, but it definitely does not involve any controller crying or that kinda crap.
Starting to consider night weaning here as well, so I'm interested in any other suggestions
I've been reading about his: you basically pick 7 hours (he reccomends 11-6) and you don't feed. You (well he says dad) soothe but no boob for those 7 hours. He also doesn't say it only takes 3 nights like lots of the parenting books, but 11/12 I think.
In theory sounds great and all but she's a boob monster at night and I'm wrecked from her!! I don't think she'd take me saying no too well 0 -
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She spits out the soother and goes rooting: we co sleep too. I might need to work on that first? I wouldn't even say she wakes up fully but if she doesn't get it straight away she could be up for 2 hours because she does wake up then if that makes sense?
Ah. I know what you mean. It sounds like a sleepy habit but if she doesnt get it she wakes to find out why not
If you co-sleep then she probably smells the milk. Cant blame her then really. I would personally change the co-sleeping arrangement, wait until she has settled into that, then address reducing the night feeds. Like you I dont think I could put a baby through such massive changes all at once and I just think that CIO /Controlled crying is not for me. I'd just feel cruel. 0 -
missis aggie wrote: »I expressed for 7 months for my first daughter. Its time consuming but its totally worth it if breastfeeding directly doesn't work. But as your baby is still small I would first see lactation consultant ( rule out tongue tie, correct position etc) as its soooo much easier to breatfeed. I'm feeding my second daughter now- I didn't have easy start but I was very determined to make it work and for last couple of months ( she is 5 months ) its a bliss.
If you decide to pump, there is good few websites with advice how to keep up the supply. And yes pump will be your best friend as you need to express very regularly ( day and night for couple of months). I used the madela hospital grade ( rented ) its very quiet.
I was taking fennugreek, fennel tea loads of oats. Also its important to mimic baby's nursing habits ( as you have to fool your body to make milk as it was baby suckling). Try to do clustar pumping at evening etc.
So good luck, it can be done. You are a great mummy
Thank you so much for the advice - it's very reassuring. I had my first visit from the PHN today and she has referred me to the local lactation consultant. She gave me some sdvice in the meantime and told me to keep trying with the nipple shields but have a bottle of expressed milk ready to go so we could try for a short time and then if it didn't work we'd be ready to go. We tried this earlier and with the nipple shields I got him to latch on and feed on my breast straight away. He fed on both sides for ages and got a good feed! I was so relieved and overwhelmed I was sobbing crying (I blame this on hormones!)
I think maybe having my milk in and him being used to sucking a bottle really helped - he was so much better able for it than he was in the hospital. I'm hoping it's not a once off and I can do it again. It's nice to know the lactation consultant will come anyway and I'll get some more help. The PHN is coming back on Friday too. If a few of you hadn't suggested persevering I may not have been so eager to try again/engage with a lactation consultant so thank you all for that! 0 -
That's fab murdy!! Well done!
With my first I had to use shields for the whole 14 weeks I breast fed - this was cos I couldn't get the latch right in the hospital, the mid wife suggested them and then she wouldn't feed without them. I did love them cos they meant I could breast feed but found them fiddly to get on when feeding in public etc and annoying to always remember to have with me! But great none the less!!
This time I fed her fine until day ten when she just completely forgot everything she had learnt & couldn't latch on - just like that! It was awful! So due to advise on here I got in touch with a great lactation consultant who corrected my latch with a few tips & observations - for the feed while she was there with me we started using the shields and the baby latched again - I like u was crying with relief! But then I remembered how I used to hate the shields first time so she explained that trying the baby each feed without them was a good idea to keep trying with the latch! When trying without - do it about 5 mins into a feed so the baby isn't starving and frantic - just slip it off and they might just surprise you by latching back on without it!
The other thing if interest to me was she said I didn't need to sterilise the shields! Which would have made it sooo much easier first time around if I knew that!!
Latching with the shields is excellent - your successfully breast feeding! But if u want a lazier life its def worth trying time & time again to wean them off the shield! Apparently some babies just 'get' it weeks and even months in! My first was dependant on them tho - but it still meant I could breast feed so they really were fab!
I found the Medela ones the best as v soft silicone which is nicely shaped. Apparently you should always choose large size as is best to promote latch - regardless if size if nipples - I.e my problem was small nipples & she still said I should use large shields!
Didn't realise I had 'small ' nipples til I breast fed.... Haha - but it's irrelevant anyway as its the whole areola they need not the nipple!
Hope that helps!
My issue now is I think we have thrush.... Her tongue all white ( not milk) & my boobs gone all red & sore around nipple Had to express from one side this eve cos was too sore to feed - sge keeps pulling off with my nipple between her gums!! Eek!!
Got daktarin oral gel so that should help hopefully! One side at least is not as sore so can still feed normally with that one!
Other than that feeding going great - I'm delighted! 6 weeks tomorrow and she's become a lot more efficient and quicker at feeding - my 16 month old is getting really fed up of her being on my lap tho...
I have about 20 books shoved down side of couch to pull out to distract her while I'm feeding!0 -
dublinlady wrote: »That's fab murdy!! Well done!
With my first I had to use shields for the whole 14 weeks I breast fed - this was cos I couldn't get the latch right in the hospital, the mid wife suggested them and then she wouldn't feed without them. I did love them cos they meant I could breast feed but found them fiddly to get on when feeding in public etc and annoying to always remember to have with me! But great none the less!!
This time I fed her fine until day ten when she just completely forgot everything she had learnt & couldn't latch on - just like that! It was awful! So due to advise on here I got in touch with a great lactation consultant who corrected my latch with a few tips & observations - for the feed while she was there with me we started using the shields and the baby latched again - I like u was crying with relief! But then I remembered how I used to hate the shields first time so she explained that trying the baby each feed without them was a good idea to keep trying with the latch! When trying without - do it about 5 mins into a feed so the baby isn't starving and frantic - just slip it off and they might just surprise you by latching back on without it!
The other thing if interest to me was she said I didn't need to sterilise the shields! Which would have made it sooo much easier first time around if I knew that!!
Latching with the shields is excellent - your successfully breast feeding! But if u want a lazier life its def worth trying time & time again to wean them off the shield! Apparently some babies just 'get' it weeks and even months in! My first was dependant on them tho - but it still meant I could breast feed so they really were fab!
I found the Medela ones the best as v soft silicone which is nicely shaped. Apparently you should always choose large size as is best to promote latch - regardless if size if nipples - I.e my problem was small nipples & she still said I should use large shields!
Didn't realise I had 'small ' nipples til I breast fed.... Haha - but it's irrelevant anyway as its the whole areola they need not the nipple!
Hope that helps!
My issue now is I think we have thrush.... Her tongue all white ( not milk) & my boobs gone all red & sore around nipple Had to express from one side this eve cos was too sore to feed - sge keeps pulling off with my nipple between her gums!! Eek!!
Got daktarin oral gel so that should help hopefully! One side at least is not as sore so can still feed normally with that one!
Other than that feeding going great - I'm delighted! 6 weeks tomorrow and she's become a lot more efficient and quicker at feeding - my 16 month old is getting really fed up of her being on my lap tho...
I have about 20 books shoved down side of couch to pull out to distract her while I'm feeding!
That's really interesting - thanks for sharing your experience. I was thinking it would be nice if I could graduate to not using the shields but one step at a time at the moment. I imagine they are awkward if you want to breastfeed in public and they are fiddly. Especially as my little man is quite strong and squirms a bit at first. I think I'll see what the lactation consultant says but I'd imagine she will tell me to try without them etc. but I'm not sure that would work. I suppose like with the pumping knowing you have options/back-up makes things a lot easier.
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MurdyWurdy wrote: »That's really interesting - thanks for sharing your experience. I was thinking it would be nice if I could graduate to not using the shields but one step at a time at the moment. I imagine they are awkward if you want to breastfeed in public and they are fiddly. Especially as my little man is quite strong and squirms a bit at first. I think I'll see what the lactation consultant says but I'd imagine she will tell me to try without them etc. but I'm not sure that would work. I suppose like with the pumping knowing you have options/back-up makes things a lot easier.
Hope your little one's thrush clears up soon - it sounds nasty, for both of you!
For 2 weeks after using the shields this time I carried them everywhere with me - just incase!
As you say - they mean your able to feed now so go with it! Just sonething to bare in mind tho!
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Your very welcome MurdyWurdy I hope it will get easier for you. And I have to say, support when you starting breastfeeding is everything. I found chatting to other mummies very reassuring:)
On the nipple shields - my sister fed her baby for 4 months with them and 1 day she just latched on no problem good luck 0 -
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Hi wolfpawnat, congratulations on your pregnancy and best of luck in 4 weeks or so
There is some great advice here. I read through the entire thread during late night feeds, and really benefitted. I am exclusively breast feeding now for 11 weeks and loving it. It was hell up until about the 6 week mark, and it's been actually grand since then. Perseverance! 0 -
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Hi everyone. I'm currently breastfeeding twins. 6 weeks today. I've been giving one bottle formula at night since being in hospital and its saved me really. I get a few hrs sleep while someone else does a feed. But I'd love to drop it and use expressed milk instead. I've rented a pump for the month to see how I go. Where do I start? Is morning best time to pump? Anything I need to consider?
Thanks
I definitely found the morning the best time to pump: I never did a whole pile if pumping but I'm sure a few more will give better advice! I did find I got more if I'd just finished feeding from one side but I don't know how possible you'll find that?
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How Strange wrote: »I pump in the mornings as I'm usually quite full. By evening time my supply is quite low.
Hi how strange,
At night time we may think our supply is low, but either two things are happening
A) our breasts are so efficient at producing the milk on demand we don't need to be full before we feed. The same thing happens after a change in the feeding pattern. Breast efficiency sometimes makes women feel like they've dipped because the feeling of "fullness" from the beginning is gone.
because of the hormones, children love to be nursed for longer in the evening. This is particularly so at the early stages but can be any random time for the first year if there's a developmental milestone. It's not unusual to be parked up for a few hours in the evening while baby has a monster feed, but that's because of their appetite, not the amount they are getting. 0 -
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MurdyWurdy wrote: »I use mi wadi but use way less than the recommended amount so it's only lightly flavoured. I have a glass bottle in the fridge with it in it so it's always easily available and nice and cold. breastfeeding makes you so thirsty ! I also hate plain water. It seems to be working so far and baby seems happy with the milk.
Yeah, I would get sick of it very fast if there was too much and I could imagine it would sugar up the milk or just send the whole thing through me. Just something to add a tiny bit flavour. I was shopping yesterday and I wanted to buy ribena for my hospital bag 0 -
wolfpawnat wrote: »Yeah, I would get sick of it very fast if there was too much and I could imagine it would sugar up the milk or just send the whole thing through me. Just something to add a tiny bit flavour. I was shopping yesterday and I wanted to buy ribena for my hospital bag
Go for it! I had diet coke in mine which apparently is a big bfeeding no no but I knew I'd be sick and want something fizzy! They had cartons of Ribena in the hosp cafe, hubby got me one one day and it was cry tasty. I think I needed the sugar at that stage!l. 0 -
MurdyWurdy wrote: »Go for it! I had diet coke in mine which apparently is a big bfeeding no no but I knew I'd be sick and want something fizzy! They had cartons of Ribena in the hosp cafe, hubby got me one one day and it was cry tasty. I think I needed the sugar at that stage!l.
Well reading the material, sugars are good during labour but I more than likely won't even get to try the whole natural route this time. (both a blessing and a curse) Actually did any planned section moms have problems with their milk? A day or two before natural labour starts the body sends the hormones to ready the colostrum, with planned sections it doesn't get that pre-warning, does that add to the difficulty of feeding? 0 -
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wolfpawnat wrote: »Yeah, I would get sick of it very fast if there was too much and I could imagine it would sugar up the milk or just send the whole thing through me. Just something to add a tiny bit flavour. I was shopping yesterday and I wanted to buy ribena for my hospital bag
I find adding a squeeze of lemon or lime juice is great, or a few crushed berries is nice too! 0 -
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Thanks iguana
it's good to hear someone else doing it. I'm going to wait until next week because C is anaemic and we have blood tests and paediatrician appt Fri, so fingers crossed her iron is improving and her heart murmur with it
Blueskye that's so frustrating I'm really lucky that my gp is extremely pro breastfeeding (being married to a lc how could he not be!), but I've just complained about shocking breastfeeding advice I got when C was in hospital. Made me feel better anyway. 0 -
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