The Great 2011 PSN Outage Megathread Post 1 updated

Desire. · 26-04-2011 2:59pm

Chavways wrote: »

No-one would steal details if they already had access to infinite funds.

I wouldn't say that really because the infinite funds are just for the PS Store, whereas people's credit card details could be used to buy anything.

Leeg17 · 26-04-2011 3:05pm

Nodferatu wrote: »

''apparently'' it might be back tomorrow... wouldn't hold my breath tho

http://ps3.nowgamer.com/news/5657/psn-back-up-wednesday-expert-claims

Exactly. Sony said it would be 1 or 2 days last Wednesday. Then they still haven't given us an ETA. If that guy worked for Sony surely they would have released a tweet/update by now?

irish_stevo815 · 26-04-2011 3:06pm

so does anyone have any idea exactly what Sony are doing???

People are conning free unlimited funds for PS Store..........Sony shut off access to PSN worldwide........................so are they adding some new software to prevent this, or just waiting to catch the people doing it and give them a ban??

Is there a legitimate reason why millions of harmless gamers are being left in the dark?

WolfForager · 26-04-2011 3:09pm

They're completely rebuilding the PSN, apparently that takes a few days or something :rolleyes:

irish_stevo815 · 26-04-2011 3:11pm

WolfForager wrote: »

They're completely rebuilding the PSN, apparently that takes a few days or something :rolleyes:

So what happens a month or so down the line when this so called "new" Network gets hacked again......

WolfForager · 26-04-2011 3:13pm

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

So what happens a month or so down the line when this so called "new" Network gets hacked again......

Well if they do the rebuilding right then it shouldn't get hacked again

Leeg17 · 26-04-2011 3:13pm

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

So what happens a month or so down the line when this so called "new" Network gets hacked again......

They're hoping the new security features will prevent that. Happening once is unfortunate, twice would be a disaster for Sony.

Desire. · 26-04-2011 3:14pm

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

So what happens a month or so down the line when this so called "new" Network gets hacked again......

It shouldn't -- that's why they are rebuilding the PSN.

IngazZagni · 26-04-2011 3:15pm

Haha if there was ever a few days for the PSN to be down it was the past few. Bank holiday weekend with great weather meant I barely touched my PS3. Also I bought Bad Company 2 last week (I know I'm only a little late) and I'm still going through the single player campaign so I don't intend on being online for another couple days at least.

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

So what happens a month or so down the line when this so called "new" Network gets hacked again......

Well obviously the idea is that won't happen....

Tallon · 26-04-2011 3:19pm

There's kids outside my house doing something strange, I've never seen it before...

They're playing outside :eek: and they're not even using a console :eek: :eek:

irish_stevo815 · 26-04-2011 3:19pm

I'm sure they also thought it would never happen in the first place

Anyway, being down for the few days hasnt bothered me too much, havent been at home much over the bank holiday weekend anyway. goona be picking up Mortal Kombat over the week, so once it back in the next day or 2 ill be happy.

kearneybobs · 26-04-2011 3:22pm

The only thing that is bothering me about this is that I cant activate my PC version of Portal 2.

Desire. · 26-04-2011 3:23pm

I haven't been at home at all since it went down, so I'm happy that I'm not missing out on anything.

It better be working by Thursday though.

splashthecash · 26-04-2011 3:30pm

We may be waiting for a while longer to get online....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/sony-playstation-network-down-ps3_n_853695.html

Sony's PlayStation Network, plagued by problems for days, is being shut down indefinitely, according to the Wall Street Journal.
PlayStation tweeted a link to a blog post updating users on the situation.
"I know you are waiting for additional information on when PlayStation Network and Qriocity services will be online. Unfortunately, I don’t have an update or timeframe to share at this point in time," wrote Patrick Seybold, Sony's senioer director of corporate communications and social media. "As we previously noted, this is a time intensive process and we’re working to get them back online quickly. We’ll keep you updated with information as it becomes available. We once again thank you for your patience."
The Journal offers more insight, adding, "the Japanese electronics giant said it is keeping its PlayStation Network videogame service offline indefinitely following a hacking attack it now says may have compromised user’s information"
Seybold had said in a blog post on April 21 that it could be " a full day or two" before the service was up and running again. Nearly a week later and the network is still inaccessible.
Sony shut down its network following an "external intrusion" that may have put users' personal information at risk.

Tallon · 26-04-2011 3:32pm

kearneybobs wrote: »

The only thing that is bothering me about this is that I cant activate my PC version of Portal 2.

This, I am so sad

Clover · 26-04-2011 3:33pm

kearneybobs wrote: »

The only thing that is bothering me about this is that I cant activate my PC version of Portal 2.

Same here , just want to link my steam account.

Have been playing portal 2 single player for most of the psn down time and now I'm playing the gears of war 3 beta , so it's not been to much of a bother so far apart from the linking of the steam and psn accounts.

macman2010 · 26-04-2011 3:34pm

I had a feeling this was coming.
if my credit card details are comprimised il blow a fcuking gasket.

kearneybobs · 26-04-2011 3:36pm

Clover wrote: »

Same here , just want to link my steam account.

Have been playing portal 2 single player for most of the psn down time and now I'm playing the gears of war 3 beta , so it's not been to much of a bother so far apart from the linking of the steam and psn accounts.

I'm resisting the temptation to start Portal 2 on the PS3. Want to playthrough it first on the PC though. Then go onto the PS3 straight after. But I cant.

Korvanica · 26-04-2011 3:38pm

Holy ****... This sucks big time....

stevenmu · 26-04-2011 3:39pm

I was going to pick up Portal 2 over the next day or two, will this prevent me activating it with steam for a PC copy as well?

Risteard · 26-04-2011 3:40pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I was going to pick up Portal 2 over the next day or two, will this prevent me activating it with steam for a PC copy as well?

Yep. My friend got it for Playstation and wanted to download it for his laptop but can't.

Korvanica · 26-04-2011 3:40pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I was going to pick up Portal 2 over the next day or two, will this prevent me activating it with steam for a PC copy as well?

I was thinking the exact same thing....

splashthecash · 26-04-2011 3:41pm

This is way more serious than I ever expected - I haven't been online in a good few weeks so when I saw the notice a few days ago I figured it was routine maintenence....couldn't be further from the truth.

Whenever I hear customer information compromised - I shudder

Wolfe Tone · 26-04-2011 3:43pm

So glad I used a 3v card!

It better be back online by the weekend!

Clover · 26-04-2011 3:45pm

Just get stuck into it on the ps3 , your missing out on some good head scratching fun .

Sephiroth_dude · 26-04-2011 3:46pm

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

So glad I used a 3v card!

Same here,this sucks donkey balls if its true.

Clover · 26-04-2011 3:48pm

I removed my cc details from my account about six weeks ago , glad I did now.

Dravokivich · 26-04-2011 3:49pm

I hope they give me extra time for Qriocity due to this...

Trevor451 · 26-04-2011 3:50pm

Glad I have a gaming PC and xbox

IngazZagni · 26-04-2011 3:54pm

I'd say the only way personnel information could be compromised is if they switch PSN back on without rectifying the problem, then it may become an issue. That's why they are so reluctant.

FlawedGenius · 26-04-2011 3:56pm

Why say 48 hours at the start if they didnt know how long it would take to be fixed?

Sounds like it could be a few more days at least before it up maybe even weeks??:eek: There rebuilding the whole network so..:eek:

Dravokivich · 26-04-2011 3:58pm

IngazZagni wrote: »

I'd say the only way personnel information could be compromised is if they switch PSN back on without rectifying the problem, then it may become an issue. That's why they are so reluctant.

"hacking" into a system is one thing, knowing where to get certain details within it is another. So unless they had very basic and obvious labels setup on their DB, I doubt consumer details would be as much a problem.

They would be mainly saying they are concerned for the safety of consumer details, because "internet hacking" always gets people paranoid about their details.

Overall for me, it's the downtime that's proving to be tedious and annoying.

I've no fear of my consumer details...

Kersmash · 26-04-2011 4:03pm

Saw this on another forum:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/ wrote:

Ok, I've seen a bunch of speculation of why people think PSN is down, and I thought I should just post what the community knows in comparison to what Sony is telling everyone. The truth is, there was a new CFW (custom firmware) released known as Rebug (http://rebug.me). It essentially turns a retail console into a dev console (not fully, but gives you a lot of the same options that usually dev's only have access to). Anyway, this new CFW was quickly figured out to give CFW users access to the PSN network again via the dev networks. With a little manipulation of the URL's through a proxy server you could get your hacked console back online. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, it also turns out that some people over at NGU found out that you could provide fake CC# info and the authenticity of the information was never checked as you were on Sony's private developer PSN network (essentially a network that Sony trusted). What happened next was extreme piracy of PSN content. Sony realizing the issue here shut down the network. Now, before you go freaking out about the latest information posted about Kotaku, no ones personal information was accessible via this hack. Not to say they couldn't get it, but no one is admitting to it being available. Anyway, that's the real reason for the PSN downtime. Sony is now rebuilding all of it's PSN servers to be more secure and (hopefully) make sure the CFW users cannot get online anymore.

Edit #1: To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense.
1. Rebug was released on 3/31/11.
2. First guides of how to use the dev network to get back on COD games on 4/3/11. 3. Word of "shady" sites finding a way to pirate PSN content via the dev networks on 4/7/11 (basing this on posts I had to delete on the website). 4. PSN goes down on 4/20/11

Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion. Now, this isn't the first time Sony has fought back against the PS3 modders from getting on PSN. A couple of months ago we had a utility called f*ckPSN that changed the necessary header information that was being sent to Sony to allow modified consoles back online. We were able to use it for about a month. Then came the new TOS, the mass e-mail to PS3 customers, and software update 3.56 and 3.60. So, once again, yes this is all speculation, but it is speculation based on previous actions and known facts.

Edit #2: Mathieulh just mentioned that he has been in contact with someone that has official access to the SCE devnet servers and it was posted to them today that only 3.60+ debug firmwares will be allowed on the dev network anymore. All earlier versions will be cut. If you want to retain your access you need to contact Sony and upgrade to 3.60 debug firmware.

Minstrel27 · 26-04-2011 4:04pm

Amateurs

IngazZagni · 26-04-2011 4:06pm

FlawedGenius wrote: »

Why say 48 hours at the start if they didnt know how long it would take to be fixed?

I don't ever remember them giving a timeframe outside of "asap" and "days".

Wolfe Tone · 26-04-2011 4:13pm

*shakes fist in general direction of hackers*

Korvanica · 26-04-2011 4:19pm

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

*shakes fist in general direction of hackers*

"Shake harder boy"

*shakes fist!

And i'd just bought MAG and was planning on getting portal tonight ..

gehy...

amacachi · 26-04-2011 4:25pm

Sony LOL.

stevenmu · 26-04-2011 4:32pm

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

*shakes fist in general direction of hackers*

That's a bit misdirected tbh, if the post above about CFWs is true then it's not hackers keeping people from the PSN, it's Sony themselves.

Wolfe Tone · 26-04-2011 4:33pm

stevenmu wrote: »

That's a bit misdirected tbh, if the post above about CFWs is true then it's not hackers keeping people from the PSN, it's Sony themselves.

I just wanna play!

*cries hysterically*

amacachi · 26-04-2011 4:36pm

stevenmu wrote: »

That's a bit misdirected tbh, if the post above about CFWs is true then it's not hackers keeping people from the PSN, it's Sony themselves.

It's a bit of both but every time I hear about something like this with Sony I wonder who was missing from work the day that structures like this were suggested then decided upon.

Skerries · 26-04-2011 4:45pm

*blatant troll*

starts up new top of the line gaming pc
plays Crysis 2

faceman · 26-04-2011 4:45pm

On a lighter note, I was saying to myself Sony better give us something free to compensate us and then i remember PSN was free. Im less unhappy now than I was when XBL went down over Christmas a few years back!

That_Guy · 26-04-2011 4:46pm

The lack of communication is an absolute joke. If Sony came out and said such and such happened then it'd be grand.

All they're doing is shrugging their shoulders and saying (in an Abe's Odyssey type voice) "I dunno".

That_Guy · 26-04-2011 4:47pm

Skerries wrote: »

*blatant troll*

starts up new top of the line gaming pc
plays Crysis 2

Something about this post tells me that you're trolling. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Liamario · 26-04-2011 4:50pm

Tallon wrote: »

There's kids outside my house doing something strange, I've never seen it before...

They're playing outside :eek: and they're not even using a console :eek: :eek:

My girlfriend and I constantly make that joke. Sometimes we see them playing with a spherical object. They like to kick it to each other.

eco2live · 26-04-2011 4:52pm

Wait and see. A new paid service will start up. (to cover ahem security)

Korvanica · 26-04-2011 5:06pm

That_Guy wrote: »

All they're doing is shrugging their shoulders and saying (in an Abe's Odyssey type voice) "I dunno".

Stop it!
Follow me...
Work!

^^ you read all of these in abes voice didnt you?

eco2live wrote: »

Wait and see. A new paid service will start up. (to cover ahem security)

I wouldmt have a problem with this, say they charged 20 a year for the standard PSN, then PSN+ at 50 a year or something... You can be sure that the service would become better..

Tallon · 26-04-2011 5:08pm

Liamario wrote: »

My girlfriend and I constantly make that joke. Sometimes we see them playing with a spherical object. They like to kick it to each other.

GlaDOS?

Varik · 26-04-2011 5:28pm

Korvanica wrote: »

I wouldmt have a problem with this, say they charged 20 a year for the standard PSN, then PSN+ at 50 a year or something... You can be sure that the service would become better..

It would also make an account ban more severe which i like but what about those that have more than one account.

Would it be the same as with PSN content, 5 activated PS3s per account allowed to get online or would each account need a sub.

If PSN+ came with it then i would be ok, but when there are more than 75m accounts and maybe 50m PS3s out there a lot of people would be stuck. Also for those that have a 360 and PS3 that more money going out for online.

Rather have a ea like pass for all games to support PSN rather than a additional cost to the games.

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