English Poets 2012

_pure_mule_ · 02-06-2012 5:01pm

AnnaKin wrote: »

So: question for anyone like me who is doing three or less poets:

What will yas do if no one comes up? I think i'd waffle one on a poet i had done but didnt study. But it would be a veeeerrry poor essay!

That's what I'll do too:)

Enda93 · 02-06-2012 5:40pm

I know I've posted this already on a different thread but I'm told that they pick names out of a hat so realistically it could be anyone.

*Edit* Just thought about that again, if you look at the list of poets, 3 are Irish, 3 are female and 3 are none of the above, so my estimation is that they randomly select one from each of these categories and then add one more. I'm studying 6 poets just to be doubly sure, but this seems to me to be the most logical selection process.

Astrozombies · 02-06-2012 5:48pm

AnnaKin wrote: »

So: question for anyone like me who is doing three or less poets:

What will yas do if no one comes up? I think i'd waffle one on a poet i had done but didnt study. But it would be a veeeerrry poor essay!

but in fairness plath/heaney HAS to come up, there'd be uproar in Ireland if they didn't. Imagine all those angry parents on the phone to Joe Duffy over how the leaving cert is a disgrace :P they will come up, don't worry.

Astrozombies · 02-06-2012 5:51pm

Enda93 wrote: »

I know I've posted this already on a different thread but I'm told that they pick names out of a hat so realistically it could be anyone.

*Edit* Just thought about that again, if you look at the list of poets, 3 are Irish, 3 are female and 3 are none of the above, so my estimation is that they randomly select one from each of these categories and then add one more. I'm studying 6 poets just to be doubly sure, but this seems to me to be the most logical selection process.

definitely not picked from a hat anyways. My english teacher knows people in the department and he's certain the way they choose poets is logical and based on things like, how often they come up and who has been in the public eye recently, or anniversaries.

Enda93 · 02-06-2012 6:00pm

Astrozombies wrote: »

Enda93 wrote: »

I know I've posted this already on a different thread but I'm told that they pick names out of a hat so realistically it could be anyone.

*Edit* Just thought about that again, if you look at the list of poets, 3 are Irish, 3 are female and 3 are none of the above, so my estimation is that they randomly select one from each of these categories and then add one more. I'm studying 6 poets just to be doubly sure, but this seems to me to be the most logical selection process.

definitely not picked from a hat anyways. My english teacher knows people in the department and he's certain the way they choose poets is logical and based on things like, how often they come up and who has been in the public eye recently, or anniversaries.

Well, my English teacher is in a similar situation in that he also knows people in the dept. and this is what they've been telling him, either way, prediction is never safe, there has been plenty of times when a poet certain to come up hasn't, and it doesn't really matter whether there's uproar about it or not seeing as the leaving cert is based on knowledge of the course content rather than prediction.

reznov · 02-06-2012 6:48pm

Just study all the poets in the world. You'll be safe then!

I am the department for education by the way.

Raeone · 02-06-2012 7:32pm

I have half studied one poet, and one poet only. If anyone else comes up I'll have to leave it blank and even if the poet I studied comes up, I'll struggle to write a decent essay. I actually am ****ed for all these exams and don't even think I'll scrape 200points.

Namlub · 02-06-2012 7:48pm

Raeone wrote: »

I have half studied one poet, and one poet only. If anyone else comes up I'll have to leave it blank and even if the poet I studied comes up, I'll struggle to write a decent essay. I actually am ****ed for all these exams and don't even think I'll scrape 200points.

Well why don't you study more than one poet then?

Hayezer · 02-06-2012 7:56pm

Astrozombies wrote: »

but in fairness plath/heaney HAS to come up, there'd be uproar in Ireland if they didn't. Imagine all those angry parents on the phone to Joe Duffy over how the leaving cert is a disgrace :P they will come up, don't worry.

Just wondering, why do you say those two have to come up? Everyone seems to think Plath is coming up, I dunno why though

? I'm not doing Heaney so that doesn't affect me.

silversky · 02-06-2012 8:07pm

I dunno why people keep giving out about making predictions.

Yes it is a risk but it's your own descion.

Seamus Heaney, is tipped to come up. Why? He hasn't come up since 2003 AND he's not on next years course. IMO he is the most likely to come up. If he doesn't the examiners for the English paper have completely changed the way they put the exam together.

Plath is tipped to come up. Why? It's her 50th anniversary. BUT she is on next years course. She's likely but not as likely as Heaney.

The only problem is, our exams were being put together when Ruairi Quinn was ranting and raving about the LC being too predictable, so really it could go either way.

Togepi · 02-06-2012 9:04pm

silversky wrote: »

Plath is tipped to come up. Why? It's her 50th anniversary. BUT she is on next years course. She's likely but not as likely as Heaney.

I completely forgot about that!

She's on the course for the next two years though, so I don't think she'll be on. Rich is on just next year, so she has a decent chance, and Boland's not on for the next two years, so they could put her on two years in a row to make it less predictable or whatever. That's what I'm hoping anyway! :P

PictureFrame · 02-06-2012 9:10pm

Ack, all this talk about Poetry. Plath, Larkin and Heaney will be on the paper- or at least 2/3. Without a doubt..

My proof?.. None..:pac:

Hayezer · 02-06-2012 10:02pm

How many poems have ye guys covered for each poet? And in general do you use all of them, barring that they apply to the question?

Canard · 02-06-2012 10:13pm

silversky wrote: »

Seamus Heaney, is tipped to come up. Why? He hasn't come up since 2003 AND he's not on next years course.

He is. I think he'll still appear though, but I doubt Kinsella will.

Enda93 · 02-06-2012 10:14pm

poets coming up on the exam aren't decided on the basis of whether or not they're coming up on next year's course, if anything, they'll be decided on for reasons such as anniversaries etc..
not a fact, just my opinion, but if the leaving cert poets were decided on just because they wont be on next years exam then it would be far too easy to predict.

Togepi · 02-06-2012 10:15pm

Lads when was young Plath last up?

Mysteriouschic · 02-06-2012 10:17pm

For some reason I think that Plath , Rich , Heaney and Larkin will be the ones on the paper. I don't know why . But Boland could possibly appear again but I don't think she will.

Ash3070 · 02-06-2012 10:19pm

Keeping in mind that a female poet and an Irish poet have always come up do you think it'd be okay to just learn Plath, Rich and Boland? x x x

Mysteriouschic · 02-06-2012 10:23pm

Togepi wrote: »

Lads when was young Plath last up?

2007

Sunny!! · 02-06-2012 10:25pm

oh its so gonna be boland:D

Amirani · 02-06-2012 10:25pm

Most likely. You have to ask yourself are you able to confidently answer on each poet, regardless of how difficult the question is.

fizzyorange · 02-06-2012 10:26pm

Ah sure, YOLO.

Wesc. · 02-06-2012 10:27pm

Ash3070 wrote: »

Keeping in mind that a female poet and an Irish poet have always come up do you think it'd be okay to just learn Plath, Rich and Boland? x x x

I'd so yeah xoxo

NoHarm1994 · 02-06-2012 10:39pm

Kinsella is a great shout

treely · 02-06-2012 10:46pm

IF the poets were picked randomly, and you did 3, you'd have a 7% chance of not getting a poet you've studied. However, I doubt they are picked randomly, which make the chances slimmer.

In other words, yeah, you'll be grand!

silversky · 02-06-2012 11:09pm

Patchy~ wrote: »

He is. I think he'll still appear though, but I doubt Kinsella will.

According to This Is Poetry 2013 he's not

2013 Poets: William Shakespeare,William Wordsworth, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Elizabeth Bishop, Thomas Kinsella, Adrienne Rich, Sylvia Plath
Derek Mahon.

http://www.schoolbooksireland.ie/This-Is-Poetry-2013-Leaving-Cert-Higher-Level-Forum-Publications/9781906565138/

Anyway if I could put my money on any poet to come up it would be Heaney.

Sunny!! · 02-06-2012 11:15pm

heaney lads!! hasnt been on the course in years, and hes on this year and off again next year!! he has to be on the paper!!

biohaiid · 02-06-2012 11:52pm

If Boland is the only one I can do I'll actually cry.

Lynchy747 · 02-06-2012 11:54pm

Sunny!! wrote: »

oh its so gonna be boland:D

Boland was on last year ??

Togepi · 02-06-2012 11:55pm

Lynchy747 wrote: »

Boland was on last year ??

Exactly.

Chuchoter · 02-06-2012 11:58pm

I personally think they do it by random number generation and we're picking patterns out of nothing. ANYWAY.

My ideal selection would be Plath, Heaney, Frost and Boland/Kinsella. I like Rich but I find it difficult to structure essays on her. Kavanagh's the only guy I completely hate.

Munster07 · 03-06-2012 12:07am

Hey guys, just wondering do ye reckon I'd be okay with just Plath, Rich and Heaney? Thanks!

JonnyMcNamee · 03-06-2012 12:13am

Munster07 wrote: »

Hey guys, just wondering do ye reckon I'd be okay with just Plath, Rich and Heaney? Thanks!

I'd put the house on it that you are.. unless we get an absolute shít of a paper! :cool: Maybe go over someone else though, just to have a backup. Personally I find Kavanagh the easiest, albeit the most boring, poet on the English course.

Astrozombies · 03-06-2012 12:27am

I kinda only have Plath, Rich and Heaney covered because my teacher did Boland and Frost with us in 5th year but then they came up in the 2011 exam ... oh well

Izymunz · 03-06-2012 12:35am

Togepi wrote: »

I haven't really got a clue since they can put anyone on, but I picked Rich, (fingers crossed!) Larkin, Kinsella and Heaney. I really hope Plath isn't on, I'd hate to have to answer on her 'cause all of the answers on her would be really good and mine would be terrible in comparison!

I think she is on for the 5th years. She recently died as well but it was after the papers were prepared so I think they'll hold out on Rich this year.

Namlub · 03-06-2012 1:05am

Decided that my absolute worst case scenario would be Frost, Larkin, Kinsella (haven't done them) and Heaney (find him really hard to write about and all this Jungian theory stuff) but in fairness, an all-male paper seems unlikely so...

Danny94 · 03-06-2012 1:36pm

Do you think Id be covered with Kinsella,Larkin and Plath ?

donvito99 · 03-06-2012 1:40pm

I reckon, Wordsworth, Auden and Dickinson.

Just my 2 cents.

AllyMcFearless · 03-06-2012 1:52pm

Danny94 wrote: »

Do you think Id be covered with Kinsella,Larkin and Plath ?

More than likely yeah

Hayezer · 03-06-2012 1:55pm

Plath, Rich and Boland be grand?

Whatsername92 · 03-06-2012 2:14pm

So I'm studying (In order of preference):

Frost
Kavanagh
Heaney
Boland

(And Rich and Kinsella only partially)

Think I'll be ok? :P

darol15 · 03-06-2012 4:27pm

ye reckon ill be alright with just plath ? lol She'll defo come up i reckon !!

deathbythelc · 03-06-2012 4:39pm

Just found some sample essays if anyone is struggling with the poets

http://www.forum-publications.com/sampleanswers2012.htm

There's one on each poet there, useful for essay structure and so on.

Togepi · 03-06-2012 4:46pm

I really hope both Plath and Heaney don't come up! (Don't shoot me...) :P

deathbythelc · 03-06-2012 4:48pm

Togepi wrote: »

I really hope both Plath and Heaney don't come up! (Don't shoot me...) :P

*shoots you for saying Plath*

It'd be so funny if they didn't though, I can just hear the sobbing now. :rolleyes:

xcorina · 03-06-2012 5:21pm

I'm only revising Larkin and Heaney (I already know Plath off by heart), as my teacher predicted those two, and he has ALWAYS been right. I'll cry from happiness if Larkin shows up!
If I get time I might do Kavanagh too, only since I really love his poetry and I feel I can give a real personal response to him.
...be grand

cbd93 · 03-06-2012 7:44pm

Anybody have any essays on Seamus Heaney that they could send me?

JonnyMcNamee · 03-06-2012 7:54pm

xcorina wrote: »

I'm only revising Larkin and Heaney (I already know Plath off by heart), as my teacher predicted those two, and he has ALWAYS been right. I'll cry from happiness if Larkin shows up!
If I get time I might do Kavanagh too, only since I really love his poetry and I feel I can give a real personal response to him.
...be grand

If Larkin and Plath comes up I dunno what I'll do.. Probably write on LArkin just because everyone's doing Plath. Both of their poetry is amazing imho and I know the both of them like the back of my hand!

NoHarm1994 · 04-06-2012 12:16am

Pity that the poetry is only worth 50 marks :L

Canard · 04-06-2012 12:24am

silversky wrote: »

According to This Is Poetry 2013 he's not

2013 Poets: William Shakespeare,William Wordsworth, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Elizabeth Bishop, Thomas Kinsella, Adrienne Rich, Sylvia Plath
Derek Mahon.

http://www.schoolbooksireland.ie/This-Is-Poetry-2013-Leaving-Cert-Higher-Level-Forum-Publications/9781906565138/

Anyway if I could put my money on any poet to come up it would be Heaney.

Oh :O I could swear my friends in 5th year studied him...I mean, I even gave them my Heaney essay :pac: Odd!

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