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CastorTroy · 31-03-2014 11:56pm

So no one thinks to keep an eys on the farm in case she comes back, at which point they would see Rumple returning.

I was never a big Neal fan, though never had a problem with him. But thought his death was kinda pointless. I know his life was sacrificed to bring Rumple back but it just felt a bit shoehorned in. And where's all this "True love" magic they could've used? Don't tears or a kiss usually bring them back?

Speaking of magic, how is it Emma can seem to use it when the plot requires but can never use it when it could clearly come in useful?

I like the Regina/Robin thing (though I'll always remember Sean from Grange Hill. And that's showing my age

) because I like to see Regina happy and I hope they'll actually stick with that now and not turn her evil again every 5 minutes. Another positive thing about the relationship is it shows continuity.

Up until now, I forgot who Neal nearly married, but it was your one from season 2 that was trying to destroy magic.

DeWitt · 01-04-2014 12:08am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Up until now, I forgot who Neal nearly married, but it was your one from season 2 that was trying to destroy magic.

Tamara. Ugh, I think we'd all happily pretend that storyline never existed.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 01-04-2014 12:08am

CastorTroy wrote: »

I was never a big Neal fan, though never had a problem with him. But thought his death was kinda pointless. I know his life was sacrificed to bring Rumple back but it just felt a bit shoehorned in. And where's all this "True love" magic they could've used? Don't tears or a kiss usually bring them back?

I don't think Neal and Emma had true love though. He may have loved her, as Belle implied when she said it's how the necklace survived the curse, but I don't think Emma loved him anymore.

Speaking of magic, how is it Emma can seem to use it when the plot requires but can never use it when it could clearly come in useful?

They've implied a few times that magic is tied to emotions so Emma's only been able to use it when her emotions are.... right? You know what I mean. Was it ever explained why Emma has magic when neither of her parents have? Or is that another "because of reasons!" thing.

(though I'll always remember Sean from Grange Hill. And that's showing my age )

I was so in love with Sean when I was a kid. I'm not sure what he was doing at the time but I remember him being in all the girly mags at the time

Up until now, I forgot who Neal nearly married, but it was your one from season 2 that was trying to destroy magic.

I was confused by this too, I was like Neal nearly married a Lost Boy? How did I miss that?

Actually, speaking of the Lost Boys, what happened to them with the new curse? They came back to Storybrook with the gang but would have been sent back to wherever they were before the curse, so I assume Neverland, but with no Peter... but then where are they now? And also, how come Aurora and Philip didn't get brought back to Storybrook this time when Robin and his men did?

CastorTroy · 01-04-2014 12:22am

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

They've implied a few times that magic is tied to emotions so Emma's only been able to use it when her emotions are.... right? You know what I mean. Was it ever explained why Emma has magic when neither of her parents have? Or is that another "because of reasons!" thing.

I'm sure she was having emotions when she knew he would die if she separated them. ButI do actually know the answer to why she has it. Partially because of reasons, but mostly because she's the daughter of true love.

Guess that means all other kids are born to parents who don't really love each other.

I was so in love with Sean when I was a kid. I'm not sure what he was doing at the time but I remember him being in all the girly mags at the time

Without using wikipedia, I think after Grange Hill he went to Eastenders and also became a singer.
I do remember he played Prince Charming himself in a film I saw before. And oddly enough that plot was about his character being brought to a modern day city.

Actually, speaking of the Lost Boys, what happened to them with the new curse? They came back to Storybrook with the gang but would have been sent back to wherever they were before the curse, so I assume Neverland, but with no Peter... but then where are they now? And also, how come Aurora and Philip didn't get brought back to Storybrook this time when Robin and his men did?

I think, same as the first curse, it only covered a certain area so The Lost Boys didn't get caught up in it and Aurora and Philip were probably out of reach. Though didn't Mulan join Robin's crew?

RobbingBandit · 01-04-2014 12:36am

It's not all one place by the looks of things, there seems to be many realms, Storybrooke, Wonderland, Neverland, That place with no colour Dr Whale was from, The Enchanted Forest, Sherwood Forest, I would imagine seeing as Cora was disguised as Lancelot Aurora was/is in Camelot perhaps.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 01-04-2014 12:43am

So, what about Tinkerbell, was she in Neverland when Regina's original spell was cast? Or was she in the enchanted forest? I can't remember was she with them all when they "woke up" in the forest a few episodes ago?

CastorTroy · 01-04-2014 1:09am

As far as I know, she was with them when they went back, but who knows where she was when the new curse happened a year later. Same with everyone we haven't seen yet.
Will be curious to see at what point the witch sent the monkey to Emma and why. How long did they say they were together before he proposed?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 01-04-2014 11:43am

CastorTroy wrote: »

As far as I know, she was with them when they went back, but who knows where she was when the new curse happened a year later. Same with everyone we haven't seen yet.
Will be curious to see at what point the witch sent the monkey to Emma and why. How long did they say they were together before he proposed?

I have 8 months in my head for some reason, don't know if that's right or not. The biggest question, in my opinion, is where was Hook for the year, how come he remembers everything and how did he get back to the real world if he wasn't cursed with the rest of them by Zelena?

Emma briefly asked him about it last week and it was clear he was hiding something but what?

CastorTroy · 01-04-2014 9:43pm

Yeah 8 months according to a wiki.

So possible addition to the cast for next season

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/04/01/michael-socha-once-upon-a-time/

Michael Socha from Wonderland. Also from Being Human and This is England

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 01-04-2014 9:56pm

^ That's good. I never watched Wonderland so I don't know who his character is or how they'll work him into the show but I loved him on Being Human so I'm glad he's getting another shot on the main show.

CastorTroy · 01-04-2014 10:16pm

In Wonderland, it was revealed he was

Will Scarlet in the Enchanted Forest

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 01-04-2014 10:39pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

In Wonderland, it was revealed he was
Will Scarlet in the Enchanted Forest

I thought he was the Knave or something? I wonder did they know the show was going to be pulled and wrote that in so they could easily switch him over.

CastorTroy · 01-04-2014 10:48pm

He was the Knave in Wonderland but one of the early episodes to link it to OUAT, and before it was due to be cancelled, the story was

Himself and the Red Queen were a couple in the enchanted forest and they were using Robin's crew to steal something from Maleficint's castle before they got to Wonderland through a portal.

I must go back and finish watching that show

gazzer · 02-04-2014 11:20am

CastorTroy wrote: »

He was the Knave in Wonderland but one of the early episodes to link it to OUAT, and before it was due to be cancelled, the story was
Himself and the Red Queen were a couple in the enchanted forest and they were using Robin's crew to steal something from Maleficint's castle before they got to Wonderland through a portal.

I must go back and finish watching that show

It would make sense if that character came into OUAT as we have seen in episodes of Wonderland that

he lives in Storybrooke and that was where he had his heart hidden

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 02-04-2014 12:11pm

gazzer wrote: »

It would make sense if that character came into OUAT as we have seen in episodes of Wonderland that
he lives in Storybrooke and that was where he had his heart hidden

Does that also make him the cowardly Lion?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 03-04-2014 11:46pm

Guys! Guys! Guys!

Have you seen the new pictures from on set? I've no idea what's going on but....

Hook's got new clothes!!!

gazzer · 04-04-2014 9:14am

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Does that also make him the cowardly Lion?

No because

Alice went to Storybrook a couple of episodes back in OUAT Wonderland and got his heart. Jafar stole it and put it back in the Knave

RobbingBandit · 04-04-2014 11:18pm

I am getting Dorothy vibe from Regina wearing those red gloves in these pictures from Sundays episode on ABC below, warning spoiler alert.

http://abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/photos/seasons/03/episode-316-its-not-easy-being-green/media/once-upon-a-time-episode-316-its-not-easy-being-green-005

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-04-2014 1:23pm

Well, that was a big old bag of crazy!

So

Zelena wants to turn back time, like Cher! and make it so Regina was never born?

She's got courage and want's Regina's heart but I wonder whose brain she'll need? From the promos it looks like maybe Hooks? Or is Hook working with her? Did she take his brain already and make him go find Emma? It would explain how Hook got to New York to find Emma.

Also, how unsubtle was Regina giving Robin her heart to mind. I couldn't stop laughing.

RobbingBandit · 07-04-2014 1:31pm

Still think it will be Henry's brain. That was an interesting episode.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-04-2014 1:34pm

I watched Frozen the other night and I couldn't help thinking that maybe the writers watched it the night before they wrote this episode. I saw it mentioned on the TV.com recap but I did think it myself when Zelena's "dad" was telling her to put on her best face or whatever, he was basically saying "conceal, don't feel", I was expecting Zelena to burst into Let It Go when she stormed out of the house.

Wolverine359 · 08-04-2014 9:49am

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

She's got courage and want's Regina's heart but I wonder whose brain she'll need? From the promos it looks like maybe Hooks? Or is Hook working with her? Did she take his brain already and make him go find Emma? It would explain how Hook got to New York to find Emma.

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Still think it will be Henry's brain. That was an interesting episode.

Does she not already have a brain - Gold/Rumple's brain?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 08-04-2014 10:28am

Wolverine359 wrote: »

Does she not already have a brain - Gold/Rumple's brain?

Does that count though? She's only controlling him because she has the dagger? By the same logic you could say she has the whole town's brains because she has a year of their lives, or their memories at least.

Wolverine359 · 08-04-2014 1:19pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Does that count though? She's only controlling him because she has the dagger? By the same logic you could say she has the whole town's brains because she has a year of their lives, or their memories at least.

But Zelena literally said at the end of ep 15 "quiet minds" that she now has his "beautiful brain", so... She was holding the dagger and has full control of him, but I just thought that line made it pretty definitive.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 08-04-2014 1:26pm

Wolverine359 wrote: »

But Zelena literally said at the end of ep 15 "quiet minds" that she now has his "beautiful brain", so... She was holding the dagger and has full control of him, but I just thought that line made it pretty definitive.

Oh, I must have missed that bit

RobbingBandit · 08-04-2014 1:29pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Oh, I must have missed that bit

Me too, but remember nothing is ever what it seems in this show.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 08-04-2014 7:39pm

Dying at the description for this Sunday's episode. Mary Margret and David try to prove they're as much fun as Hook because Henry thinks they're boring.

CastorTroy · 09-04-2014 11:01pm

Anyone else disappointed it wasn't James Franco as the Wizard, especially since the room appeared to be the one from the movie?

And I like the interaction between Regina and Robin. For lack of a better word, it's cute.

Thought the whole green with envy thing was a bit silly.

And have to say it: If she's looking for a brain, she's in the wrong town. :pac:
Though with Belle being the one into books, it could lead to the witch attacking her and Rumple saving her.

Wolverine359 · 10-04-2014 12:17am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyone else disappointed it wasn't James Franco as the Wizard, especially since the room appeared to be the one from the movie?

And I like the interaction between Regina and Robin. For lack of a better word, it's cute.

Thought the whole green with envy thing was a bit silly.

And have to say it: If she's looking for a brain, she's in the wrong town. :pac:
Though with Belle being the one into books, it could lead to the witch attacking her and Rumple saving her.

I thought we've already established that she has found the brain she needed, Gold's, just hasn't "extracted" it yet.

Yeah I like the Regina/Robin thing too. And the baby using telekinesis at the start was supercute.

I really really felt sorry for Zelena, yet another victim of bad parenting, abandoned by her birth mother and later to be rejected by her foster father. Poor girl, yeah the envy thing seems a bit weak but she's pretty badass now so I'll go with it sure. :pac:

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 10-04-2014 12:51am

^ The parental abandonment thing is wearing a bit think now. Actually it's been wearing a bit thin for a while, it's see through at this point! Someone in the writers room has issues, go to therapy!

Everybody has been abandoned by their parents and they're all screwed up because of it. Have they no other story ideas?

I don't like Zelena, the actress playing her has gone for full on crazy and there's nothing likable about her. Her camp delivery of lines is highly entertaining but there's nothing likable about her. I suppose she's supposed to be a big bad and not a redeemable character.

CastorTroy · 10-04-2014 1:01am

Yeah, at least that's one thing they're doing right now at least. With Pan and now Zelena they're making them completely evil unlike how Regina and Rumple became favourites resulting in them turning good.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 10-04-2014 1:03am

^ I kind of liked Pan though, if only because he seemed like a viable alternative to Henry, for a while at least

CastorTroy · 10-04-2014 1:20am

Then he became Henry. But no denying Pan was a dick

RobbingBandit · 10-04-2014 2:58pm

Little part of me was expecting Rumple as OZ, after all he has double dipped as Beast from Beauty and the Beast and the crocodile from Peter Pan amongst others so far. I am still thinking Rumple and Cora are the parents of Zelina as they were both the most powerful at magic so Zelina is their child she would be the product of true magic like Emma is the product of true love from Charming and Snow. Regina is half as powerful as she only has Cora and Henry senior as her parents.

CastorTroy · 13-04-2014 9:42pm

Meanwhile, in the real world, Charming and Snow got married

http://www.examiner.com/article/ginnifer-goodwin-josh-dallas-married-once-upon-a-time-actors-tie-the-knot

DeWitt · 13-04-2014 9:58pm

On Jennifer Morrison's birthday xD
Keeping it in the family.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 14-04-2014 12:26pm

Don't know how to feel about that one. Love seeing more of Hook but it was quite the step back for his character. He doesn't have his ship anymore anyway so I assume there's more to come from the year they were gone.

Regina teaching Emma was kind of hilarious. Like poking a kid in the back to get a reaction

DeWitt · 14-04-2014 1:51pm

My favourite part of the entire episode was the family dinner in Granny's. Regina was sitting beside Snow laughing and talking! Character growth.
Promo for next week looks great. I can't remember the last time I was this excited for an episode.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 21-04-2014 11:34am

Best acting I've seen on this show from the kid playing Robin's son. I completely believed he was being moved against his will there.

DeWitt · 21-04-2014 12:56pm

Rather enjoyed this one.
-Snow and Regina bonding
-Rebecca Mader. I love her. She camps it right up and it totally works. I'll be sad to see her go.
-Belle standing up to Regina.
- Emma actually smiling and having some fun. Long overdue.
- What was with Hook kicking the table? Maybe I missed it last week, but was there more to the cursed lips thing? Is he actively trying to prevent them from one upping Zelena(to protect Emma)?

- Feeling incredibly uneasy about the Cora/Leopold relationship. Of course Adam took to twitter saying he recognised her in "Stable Boy", but the actual ep dictates otherwise. Retcon.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 21-04-2014 1:37pm

DeWitt wrote: »

- What was with Hook kicking the table? Maybe I missed it last week, but was there more to the cursed lips thing? Is he actively trying to prevent them from one upping Zelena(to protect Emma)?

I wondered about that too. Was it just supposed to be a funny moment? A reason why Cora didn't speak to them all there and then setting up for Snow and Regina being alone when it happened and Cora speaking through Snow?

Or, was it Hook trying to sabotage their efforts?

RobbingBandit · 21-04-2014 2:23pm

Really thought Zelena was Cora and Rumples child, was a good ending to a meh episode.

RobbingBandit · 21-04-2014 2:25pm

Interesting notion on Hook, he could be a spy!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 21-04-2014 3:19pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Interesting notion on Hook, he could be a spy!

Not sure he's a spy, but he may have been thinking that riling Zelena up was probably not a good idea given what she threatened to do to Emma's family. By sabotaging their ghost hunting he may have thought he was keeping them off her radar for a while longer.

CastorTroy · 22-04-2014 6:30pm

Zelena needs more dresses like that. :pac:

I thought Hook was covering for Snow jumping.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 28-04-2014 11:44am

I've sprained my eyes from all the involuntary rolling of them during this episode.

Half a heart each? Blugh!

DeWitt · 28-04-2014 1:41pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I've sprained my eyes from all the involuntary rolling of them during this episode.

Half a heart each? Blugh!

Right there with you. Awful episode, and it was hailed by the showrunners too. Beyond disappointed with the resolution to Henry's memories. While I appreciated Regina's TLK, the whole book thing was extremely anti climatic.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 28-04-2014 1:54pm

DeWitt wrote: »

Right there with you. Awful episode, and it was hailed by the showrunners too. Beyond disappointed with the resolution to Henry's memories. While I appreciated Regina's TLK, the whole book thing was extremely anti climatic.

It's exactly the same way they broke the curse the first time, except Regina did it. If Emma hadn't been so hell bent on keeping the truth from Henry he could have found out ages ago and Regina could have kissed him ages ago thus saving themselves weeks of effort going around in circles. So dumb.

There may be more from the story book to come, maybe? We still don't know how Hook actually got back to the real world or what happened to his ship. That could be in the book? Or it might just appear in flashback.

DeWitt · 28-04-2014 2:03pm

Something else that bothered me was the fact that Charming was the thing Snow loved most. Not Emma? Not her daughter? smh. Sure, they had to get from point A to point B, but c'mon so hackneyed.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 28-04-2014 2:15pm

DeWitt wrote: »

Something else that bothered me was the fact that Charming was the thing Snow loved most. Not Emma? Not her daughter? smh. Sure, they had to get from point A to point B, but c'mon so hackneyed.

I know! Snow is such a wagon. She clearly loves her husband more than her kids. Even Regina was saying she'd have to sacrifice Henry to cast it and Snow still didn't get the hint! I pity this poor baby that's on the way. It'd probably be better off with Zelena.

Something else that really annoyed me was the Regina/Robin thing. I'd kind of been hoping that there'd be something in the flashbacks that added to what was happening between them in SB but no! They hated each other. The only thing that was different in SB between them was that she saw his lion tattoo!! She loves him because of reasons!! So annoying.

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