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Tragic yet worrying scenes in waterford last night

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  • #32
    username123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Absolutely no sympathy for the scumbag in question. He was out looking for trouble and he found it.


  • #33
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Only issue that I have is that the others seem to have escape uninjured.


  • #34
    Chief87
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Chief87


    No sympathy from me anyway...well I do..for the guard.


  • #35
    Dermot Illogical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    Zulu wrote: »
    It baffles me that people are sympathetic towards this thug. Frankly my sympathy and concern lies with the Garda and his family. His wife and children must be terrified.

    Where did you see sympathy?


  • #36
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Dermot Illogical wrote: »
    Where did you see sympathy?

    Probably talking about my thread title re "tragic". If he was 16 I still stand by it. There was plenty of time to turn his life around if help was given to him.

    There is also a mother/father somewhere that has lost their son.


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  • #37
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    I would agree with lighterman, its a life wasted.

    Despicable behaviour, terrible outcome.


  • #38
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭flutered


    lighterman wrote: »

    There is also a mother/father somewhere that has lost their son.
    if they has made sure that he did not go around doing this stuff then i would feel deep sorrow for them, it looks as if they had failed or had never tried.


  • #39
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    The kid was definitely in the wrong. No question. Whether you consider it "acting the eejit" or a serious crime, he wasn't in the right!

    But the seeming joy people are taking in telling everyone that t hey have no sympathy for this boy who DIED!! is absolutely sickening.

    He was a young boy. Whole life ahead of him. maybe he was a little terror or a scum bag but there's nothing to say he couldn't have become a perfectly respectable adult. He is DEAD and everyone is acting like he got what he deserved because someone, not even proven to be him, threw a bottle at someone?

    A few people in this thread really need to look themselves in the mirror!


  • #40
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    lighterman wrote: »
    Probably talking about my thread title re "tragic". If he was 16 I still stand by it. There was plenty of time to turn his life around if help was given to him.

    There is also a mother/father somewhere that has lost their son.

    "He was a good lad really. Why couldn't the Garda just leave him alone"


  • #41
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    flutered wrote: »
    if they has made sure that he did not go around doing this stuff then i would feel deep sorrow for them, it looks as if they had failed or had never tried.

    Mother of God!


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  • #42
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Damien Tiernan just said on the RTE news that they were all over 18


  • #43
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    The kid was definitely in the wrong. No question. Whether you consider it "acting the eejit" or a serious crime, he wasn't in the right!

    But the seeming joy people are taking in telling everyone that t hey have no sympathy for this boy who DIED!! is absolutely sickening.

    He was a young boy. Whole life ahead of him. maybe he was a little terror or a scum bag but there's nothing to say he couldn't have become a perfectly respectable adult. He is DEAD and everyone is acting like he got what he deserved because someone, not even proven to be him, threw a bottle at someone?

    A few people in this thread really need to look themselves in the mirror!


    No sympathies and have no need to look at myself in the mirror
    Society will be better off without him
    Shame the other 3 are still around to carry out more trouble in the future


  • #44
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    No sympathies and have no need to look at myself in the mirror
    Society will be better off without him
    Shame the other 3 are still around to carry out more trouble in the future

    All you know about this kid is that he was outside a house in a group where someone threw a bottle and you are saying he deserved to die?

    You see nothing wrong with that?


  • #45
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    All you know about this kid is that he was outside a house in a group where someone threw a bottle and you are saying he deserved to die?

    You see nothing wrong with that?

    I know this adult (over 18) was in a group who went to vandalize a person house and who then assault that person.
    Tough luck to whatever happens to them after that.


  • #46
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Does it not strike anyone as unlikely that someone would become separated from the rest, trip and hurt themselves, then fall into a river or stream and drown?


  • #47
    enda1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    drumswan wrote: »
    Does it not strike anyone as unlikely that someone would become separated from the rest, trip and hurt themselves, then fall into a river or stream and drown?

    Huh? Sure they apparently all scattered. Seems logical and likely enough. No need to read conspiracy theories into it really.


  • #48
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    There is no guarantee thats what happened. The papers are dying to print something so they are happy to print first impressions.

    However that scenario does not seem to far fetched.


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No way of knowing for sure what happened but I hope the Garda didn't do anything he could get in trouble for and that it was just instant karma.


  • #50
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    enda1 wrote: »
    Huh? Sure they apparently all scattered. Seems logical and likely enough. No need to read conspiracy theories into it really.

    Of the outcomes I can think of from running through a marshy field, death is probably the most unlikely.


  • #51
    LorMal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭LorMal


    bravestar wrote: »
    Zero sympathy. Yet another member attacked at their own home. When will this country wake up a realise that the way they are asking AGS to do their job is outdated, unrealistic and putting the lives of members, and their families, at risk.
    Really, ZERO sympathy?????
    Are you a cop?


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  • #52
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Dont have to be a cop to have zero sympathy for scumbags


  • #53
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    drumswan wrote: »
    Does it not strike anyone as unlikely that someone would become separated from the rest, trip and hurt themselves, then fall into a river or stream and drown?

    The chap jumped over a fence with spikes , and fell in a stream according to RTE news @1 .


  • #54
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    drumswan wrote: »
    Does it not strike anyone as unlikely that someone would become separated from the rest, trip and hurt themselves, then fall into a river or stream and drown?



    No it doesn't. The usual antics of cowards. No problem attacking a family home but when confronted run like the little cowardly scum they are.
    You reap what you sow.

    You don't get out much do you


  • #55
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    flutered wrote: »
    if they has made sure that he did not go around doing this stuff then i would feel deep sorrow for them, it looks as if they had failed or had never tried.

    My apologies, I didn't realise you knew them personally. I can only presume you do. How else would you know their situation.
    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    "He was a good lad really. Why couldn't the Garda just leave him alone"

    Inverteetd brackets are used to quote someone. who are you quoting. I certainly didn't say he was a good lad. I did and do say he didn't deserve to die.
    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I know this adult (over 18) was in a group who went to vandalize a person house and who then assault that person.
    Tough luck to whatever happens to them after that.

    Where did any report say he went to a house to vandalize it. They were acting the maggot outside someone's show who just happened to be a guard and an altercation which occurred with the group went wrong.
    drumswan wrote: »
    Does it not strike anyone as unlikely that someone would become separated from the rest, trip and hurt themselves, then fall into a river or stream and drown?

    They were being chased, they seem to have separated. He tripped and fell.
    bravestar wrote: »
    Zero sympathy. Yet another member attacked at their own home. When will this country wake up a realise that the way they are asking AGS to do their job is outdated, unrealistic and putting the lives of members, and their families, at risk.

    You say this as if he was targeted yet it seems to have just been coincidence.
    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Dont have to be a cop to have zero sympathy for scumbags

    A group acting the maggot does not make you a scumbag. I would guess your no doctor either or at least I hope your not.

    I wonder would all the people saying he deserved to die say it openingly in a group or are they all just key board warriors


  • #56
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Shut up lighterman will you, imbecile


  • #57
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Come on lads there is no need for the name calling.

    Facts are in no way established.


  • #58
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor



    I wonder would all the people saying he deserved to die say it openingly in a group or are they all just key board warriors


    Yes I was discussing it openly at lunch time with people and the majority agreed with me. So no issue here stating my feelings in public.


  • #59
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Zambia wrote: »
    Come on lads there is no need for the name calling.

    Facts are in no way established.
    They are established pretty solidly in the 'Garda can do no wrong' brigades mind, thats for sure.


  • #60
    December2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    That child has been let down by the adults who should have been bringing g him up properly.


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  • #61
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    And anyone who believe it was a co incidence that a group of 4 men arrived outside a senior guards house and threw glass bottles at it really needs check themselves into the loony bin


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