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Cycling forum Raid Pyrénéen trip 2012

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  • #452
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Critical for those doing the Raid I reckon to focus on the Mick Byrne, May 27th,
    http://www.bikemap.net/route/509597

    2790m.

    Reckon if we can do this we'll be half way there.
    Feel fine this morning. She even got breakfast in bed!
    Nice day but reading 0-2 degrees. Too nippy to consider the bike. Lame excuse.


  • #453
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    Sorry you've decided to pull out Super Freak.

    I woke up at six to cycle to work and decided meh. I'll go when I finish work at five instead, might try Mt. Leinster via the Corrabut, I'm so undertrained at the moment it's not funny.

    If anyone wants to take Super Freak's place, post here. Flights are around €275 and the trip will cost around €500. For €500 you get accommodation, most meals , we've a van to bring your bike and gear from Ireland, your gear brought every day and everything brought back to Ireland. The flights and €150 deposit to be paid immediately, first to post here and pay goes.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • #454
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Still consider:
    You don't have to do the whole thing. People can skip a day or two and still go out and cycle the Pyrenees. Get the tan lines. I reckon this is feasible? No?
    Nothing is written in stone.
    Captain?


  • #455
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Super Freak

    Sorry to hear about that. It's a shame.
    However this is meant to be your holidays and despite the enormity of the challenge you are supposed to enjoy the holidays.

    As a very slow cyclist myself what I would say is that life gets on top of us all. Most of us have responsibilities with family, job, etc. So the only training we can do will have ro suffice.

    If you want to reconsider and do part then I can assure you that I will offer to stay with you on the road for as long as I can.

    Mentally it is tougher than physically. Yesterday I felt tired all day. At the bottom of Lugalla I saw a cyclists with two artificial legs. It made me thankful for what I have. No matter how slow I was I had to finish.

    For the long days the key is to break it down. 180k is 3 60k cycles.
    60k tuen coffee. 60k then lunch etc.

    A guy here who is a great climber and has done the Raid told menthat the key is on a 15km climb to cycle 4-5pm and stop for 1-2minutes (no more) and go again.

    Sorry for longwinded but I am very hungover.


  • #456
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Provisional acceptance of the free space pending re-research of dates after my breakfast?


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  • #457
    Planet X
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    Next engagements;

    May 19th. Saturday. Mount Leinster. 140k. 1267m.
    May 27th. Sunday. Mick Byrne. 200k. 2790m.


    Yesterday Orwell. 140k. 1450m.


  • #458
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Sorry to hear that superfreak. As others have said, its supposed to be enjoyable.

    Did the orwell yesterday, first time doing that climbing in one day, and while i found it tough, it was doable. I feel OK today (which is good as ive a 10k run later) so am a bit more confident for the raid!

    @ astramonti - on the mental bit - i found myself on my own for about half of the spin yesterday, and apart from practicing my singing, i was also humming this in my head (it matched my cadence perfectly).

    @planetx - yeah - the mick byrne sounds good.

    Idleater wrote: »
    Provisional acceptance of the free space pending re-research of dates after my breakfast?

    let us know asap idleater. would be great to have you. (if only so you can drag me up them there hills!!)


  • #459
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    "As I was going over...... the Pyrenean Mountains,
    I met a Captain Havoc and our money he had taken,
    I first produced my.......



    ....you're the songwriter, now finish it! :D
    The Raid chant.


  • #460
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Planet X wrote: »
    Next engagements;

    May 19th. Saturday. Mount Leinster. 140k. 1267m.
    May 27th. Sunday. Mick Byrne. 200k. 2790m.


    Yesterday Orwell. 140k. 1450m.

    I signed up for the mt leinster, but will be in twickenham watching a game played my men with odd shaped balls. Anyone wants my entry give me a shout.

    just on the orwell spin - my garmin said just over 2000 meters with correction enabled. was it really only 1450? :eek:


  • #461
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Wasn't it mentioned somewhere else on the site that Garmins are unreliable for altitude?
    The official Orwell map that we were given at the start would be the one to go by I imagine. You can always work it out from any of the map sites. RidewithGPS, MapMyRide etc. These will be 100%.


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  • #462
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Planet X wrote: »
    Wasn't it mentioned somewhere else on the site that Garmins are unreliable for altitude?
    The official Orwell map that we were given at the start would be the one to go by I imagine. You can always work it out from any of the map sites. RidewithGPS, MapMyRide etc. These will be 100%.

    Ridewithgps suggests the raid is 15000 metres climbing!

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/174961382 is my ride from yesterday - i have enabled the altitude correction which says
    "What are Elevation Corrections?
    Elevation Corrections cross reference the horizontal position (latitude/longitude) provided by the GPS with elevation data that has been acquired by professional surveys. When corrections to elevation data are made, each trackpoint of your activity now contains the elevation from the web service, not the elevation provided by your GPS device.
    Garmin Connect selectively applies corrections to depict a more realistic representation of your elevation experience. Activities recorded from devices without a barometric altimeter are enabled with Elevation Corrections by default. Alternatively, activities recorded by devices with a barometric altimeter generally contain accurate elevation data and therefore Elevation Corrections are disabled by default. For those users who are familiar with the MotionBased Gravity service, this is the same service."

    i guess its all black magic and voodoo :)

    Still working on the lyrics. We can sing it atop the tourmalet, but im not bringing a guitar.


  • #463
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    I'd still go with online maps though for accuracy.


  • #464
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    But http://www.velopeloton.com/raid-pyrenees/ suggests 720k 18 Cols and 11,000 m gain.
    This is what I'd go by.


    Le Raid Pyrénéen version RANDONNEUR
    720 km – 18 cols – 11000m altitude gain – 100 hours to complete the task.

    710km across 18 cols through the French Pyrenees with 11000 meters of accent and a time limit of 100 hours( Start at 9:00 Monday and must finish by 13:00 Friday). The ultimate cycle challenge.
    Started in 1952 by Cyclo Club Béarnais from Pau, the Raid Pyrenees can be ridden any time from June to the end of September.
    It is a difficult task over 4.5 days across the famous high passes of the Tour de France.



    Is this our route, above.


  • #465
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Planet X wrote: »
    I'd still go with online maps though for accuracy.

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1001799

    2421 meters. LOL

    I think we may have to settle for "it went up and down a bit" :)


  • #466
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Planet X wrote: »
    But http://www.velopeloton.com/raid-pyrenees/ suggests 720k 18 Cols and 11,000 m gain.
    This is what I'd go by.

    Is this our route, above.

    I think that rok on posted the 5 days planned riding a few pages back. I think we are using the same route, but doing different distances. with longer/shorter/longer/shorter days.


  • #467
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Sound.
    And possibly having a day off! :)


  • #468
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    found it - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78044322&postcount=411

    i was looking back through the thread and noticed a few of my earlier posts, and when i decided to this i weighed 112.5 kg, ROK ON suggested that i would struggle at that weight, so I went on a diet and concentrated on loosing a few lbs. My target was for 90kg by the raid. Weighed myself this morning - 87.2 kg. 25kgs lost since september. Hoping to be 85 or maybe less by the time we get going. happy days.


  • #469
    Planet X
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    That's a brilliant weight loss. Well done.


  • #470
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    half that bloody weight loss is from him bloody launching crazy attacks.

    If anyone is heading done to do mick byrne i may be interested, delighted to get in 2nd 100km spin in 3days working on my flat riding at moment


  • #471
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    manafana wrote: »
    half that bloody weight loss is from him bloody launching crazy attacks.

    If anyone is heading done to do mick byrne i may be interested, delighted to get in 2nd 100km spin in 3days working on my flat riding at moment

    I might well be in for the Mick Byrne 200 and can give you a lift as per the Orwell Randonnée last year, hopefully this time you won't banjo yourself and I can give you a lift back ;)


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  • #472
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Inquitus wrote: »
    I might well be in for the Mick Byrne 200 and can give you a lift as per the Orwell Randonnée last year, hopefully this time you won't banjo yourself and I can give you a lift back ;)


    ha indeed since played around with saddle height and not had much leg problems, thanks for offer of lift if your going. just wondering will i be better off doing my own 200km in own time as im free during week. Plan do this without having push heart rate up, as france is all about getting to finish.

    500euro for charity raised so far too.


  • #473
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    manafana wrote: »
    half that bloody weight loss is from him bloody launching crazy attacks.


    crazy attacks rock!! :)


  • #474
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    For those of ye that want medals can ye fill in the form in the link, scan it and email it or snail mail it to me please. For those that don't speak frog here's a quick guide:

    NOM Prénom = Surname, First name

    né(e) le = born on the

    Adresse = Address

    Pays = Country
    Sens = direction (cross out Cerbere - Hendaye)

    Date prévue du départ = 23.07.12

    Heure prévue du départ = 9h00

    Fait à = where you are (Dublin)

    le = todays date

    The two boxes underneath that, you're going for the second box (unless someone has a French cycling license) and the options are €10.50 for doing it (I don't know what you get for €10.50 other than the control card) or €16 for doing it and a medal.

    Underneath that tick par Virement Bancaire. I will send the lot at the same time, you can take it if you haven't returned this by the end of May, you're not getting a medal.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • #475
    velopeloton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭velopeloton


    The calculation of 11000m is based on the categorised climbs only, not counting the smaller climbs. The figure of 15000m is about right.


  • #476
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Crikey!!!!


  • #477
    g0g
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭g0g


    lennymc wrote: »
    I signed up for the mt leinster, but will be in twickenham watching a game played my men with odd shaped balls. Anyone wants my entry give me a shout.
    PM-ed you....not sure if this offer is exclusive to the Raid gang or not!? :)


  • #478
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    This weather is hard to take!
    My Thursday afternoon spin seems to be bunched!
    Don't have a turbo trainer so will probably have to run up and down the stairs a hundred times or so.


  • #479
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Planet X wrote: »
    This weather is hard to take!
    My Thursday afternoon spin seems to be bunched!
    Don't have a turbo trainer so will probably have to run up and down the stairs a hundred times or so.


    looks clear for evening, got two morning rides in this week but 2moro looks like it will have wait till later in the day.


  • #480
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Was out this evening for 90mins in rain and a gale on a Coastal route in Clare.

    Felt full force of a NW wind.

    It was oddly exhilirating.


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  • #481
    Planet X
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    Seems not too bad for Saturday & Sunday. Would like to do 2 X 100k.'s or so.
    Then it's Leinster and the big One (Mick B.).
    Then June then..............


  • #482
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    ROK ON wrote: »
    Was out this evening for 90mins in rain and a gale on a Coastal route in Clare.

    Felt full force of a NW wind.

    It was oddly exhilirating.

    Clare coast. NW wind. Sounds tough. Fair play. I like the area.


  • #483
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Planet X wrote: »
    Clare coast. NW wind. Sounds tough. Fair play. I like the area.

    One of my fave places.

    Did Cliffs of Moher yday. Hit 70km on the descent despite having to avoid pedestrians.


  • #484
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    ROK ON wrote: »
    Was out this evening for 90mins in rain and a gale on a Coastal route in Clare.

    Felt full force of a NW wind.

    It was oddly exhilirating.

    im just hoping to get the days in row to get body used to riding day after day, then try some long days, dont mind rain so much theirs no wind both are lethel, new gilet is brillant.


  • #485
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Hey, can someone clear this up please.

    Orwell Rand. Their flyer put it as 1400+odd Gain.

    I went round with Astra and I remember at one stage he mentioned that we were 1700+ odd up.

    Lenny said a bit back on this thread, 2000+ Gain.

    This blog seems to confirm the 2000+,
    http://andrasgercsenyi.blogspot.com/2012/05/orwell-wheelers-randonnee-12-report.html

    If that was 2000+ it seems OK.
    What do you guys think?


  • #486
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Planet X wrote: »
    Hey, can someone clear this up please.

    Orwell Rand. Their flyer put it as 1400+odd Gain.

    I went round with Astra and I remember at one stage he mentioned that we were 1700+ odd up.

    Lenny said a bit back on this thread, 2000+ Gain.

    This blog seems to confirm the 2000+,
    http://andrasgercsenyi.blogspot.com/2012/05/orwell-wheelers-randonnee-12-report.html

    If that was 2000+ it seems OK.
    What do you guys think?

    i think the maps tend to under state the elevation gain, while the garmin can be bit of either way, if you can find last years route on gps i think someone posted it, sure was more than 1700 i think.


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  • #487
    Planet X
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    I was fine for hopping the bike the next day except that the dial read minus one or two degrees in the morning.
    Tired after the event obviously but the next morning felt "not too bad".


  • #488
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    manafana wrote: »
    i think the maps tend to under state the elevation gain, while the garmin can be bit of either way, if you can find last years route on gps i think someone posted it, sure was more than 1700 i think.

    Yeah, but to underestimate by 600+ odd Metres is hard to take?


  • #489
    ROK ON
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    My Garmin said 2100m but that is Garmin meters as opposed to real meters.


  • #490
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    If the weather picks up here and I get a few miles in, uphill, I'd fancy printing off the form and sending the 16 rupees to the Captain and going for it! :)


  • #491
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Planet X wrote: »
    If the weather picks up here and I get a few miles in, uphill, I'd fancy printing off the form and sending the 16 rupees to the Captain and going for it! :)

    yeah dont know if im bother stopping to get my book stamped, seems bit of pain if stop isnt planned.


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  • #492
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    manafana wrote: »
    yeah dont know if im bother stopping to get my book stamped, seems bit of pain if stop isnt planned.

    Ah, no. You can't travel that far (France) and not stop and get the Carnet stamped! :)
    For me, I'll never do it again. If I manage to do it in the first place.

    It's, for me anyway, a lifetime experience.


  • #493
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Planet X wrote: »
    Ah, no. You can't travel that far (France) and not stop and get the Carnet stamped! :)
    For me, I'll never do it again. If I manage to do it in the first place.

    It's, for me anyway, a lifetime experience.

    i'll see i dont need it to say iv done it but might join in, im sure you'll do fine in pyrennes just ease it off bit, if me and lenny do it im sure the lighter lads should be able.


  • #494
    Planet X
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    Me, Astra & Lenny came to the top of the Shay Elliott on Saturday. Actually, Lenny & Astra sprinted the last 100 or so. I was impressed. I "shuffled" up the last 100.

    Lenny shot down the far side, down into Laragh and was never seen again. He's some tough old boot! :)

    Get in there Lenny!


  • #495
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Planet X wrote: »
    Me, Astra & Lenny came to the top of the Shay Elliott on Saturday. Actually, Lenny & Astra sprinted the last 100 or so. I was impressed. I "shuffled" up the last 100.

    Lenny shot down the far side, down into Laragh and was never seen again. He's some tough old boot! :)

    Get in there Lenny!

    their is no doubting lenny on the downhills hes a flyer, a man to get some downhill times on strava. I can climb well but need work on my efficiency by holding back more for later climbs.


  • #496
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    I find going downhill, when doing a "TdeF" tuck can be quiet strenuous and painful. Shoulders n neck. Concentration et al.


    Although, not as painful as doing an 80k. TT. Now that was crucifiction.


  • #497
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    ah lads yis are making me blush! : )

    ridewithgps says about 2100 metres
    connect.garmin.com with elevation enabled says about 2050 metres
    edge 500 with barometric pressure says about 2100 metres

    Thats good enough for me :) (although next time im bringing a measuring tape!)


  • #498
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    I have 2194m of ascend on the 143kms. It also says I had max power of 16.383w. I must be so freaking awesome.


  • #499
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    doing quick maths - we have about 7 times the orwell climbing, and 5 times the distance in 4.5 days. sweet. I just hope there is a strava challenge that week.


  • #500
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    Don't take it like that. Imagine the views, imagine the nice roads, the endless descends, the nice food and the awesome wine we re going to have each night before we pass out :D


  • #501
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    i meant all that as a positive astra!! :)
    im really looking forward to it. The one sniff of wine each night before passing out will also be good.


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