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23-03-2012, 14:45   #181
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if anything his introduction was too late to give the team a lift . they had well given up by then .
What are you talking about!!!

We needed a TH not a 35 year old flyhalf; nothing except at least parity in the scrum or a total capitulation from England would have saved Ireland.
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Best had enough trouble going on with the scrum to be worrying about leadership . heads had really dropped by the time o'gara came on - if anything his introduction was too late to give the team a lift . they had well given up by then .
How on earth would ROG "give the team a lift", in a way that another player couldn't.
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What are you talking about!!!

We needed a TH not a 35 year old flyhalf; nothing except at least parity in the scrum or a total capitulation from England would have saved Ireland.
agree about the th being what was wanted , but there wasn't one available. darcy was having a shocker, so he needed to be taken off and sexton was defending well and was atuned to the game .
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all i was saying was that he knows them all well from the saxons having coached them all at some stage. kidney doesn't coach the wolfhounds so wouldnt have the same knowledge of a player if he was coaching them .
Then what the blazis is he doing for the 30-40 weeks of the year when he's not coaching the senior team?
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How on earth would ROG "give the team a lift", in a way that another player couldn't.
outside chance that he might have been able to change the game ( a flyhalf is one of the most influencial players on the pitch ). as it turned out, he was as bad as the rest of them.
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Then what the blazis is he doing for the 30-40 weeks of the year when he's not coaching the senior team?
watching matches isn't the same as actually coaching players. youd be spending a lot more time with them for one thing .

seem to remember kidney and his coaching team going to the churchill cup with ireland A when he took over first of all , so some players like mcfadden he would know.

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Then what the blazis is he doing for the 30-40 weeks of the year when he's not coaching the senior team?
Looking at his 2 HCups in the cabinet, reading Thornley and Farrelly and dreaming of the good auld times
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watching matches isn't the same as actually coaching players. youd be spending a lot more time with them for one thing .
Then you watch the matches when the players are playing and arrange to meet the players when they aren't playing or training. You can also speak to their coaches and players who have played with them.

If you can't get to know a players personality, strengths and weaknesses from the above, you shouldn't be a professional coach.
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outside chance that he might have been able to change the game ( a flyhalf is one of the most influencial players on the pitch ). as it turned out, he was as bad as the rest of them.
I disagree but thats just my opinion.

Im actually speechless about that comment; Im not going to ignore you because I think your funny but at the same time your posts have trouble with a capital T all over them. Anyways keep it up, its refreshing on Friday afternoon.
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The thing is other players were ahead of all those guys for the Saxons. Young, Simpson and more have consistently been ahead of Dickson. They've had numerous options at 8. Nick Kennedy in the row. Plenty of players that Lancaster would have gone with if he was selecting the players he's familiar with. As it is he picked the right guys ahead of the ones he's most familiar with and it paid off.

I think it certainly would have helped him that his previous job gave him the opportunity to watch all these guys, but no more opportunity than Kidney has had in his job. The difference between the two is Lancaster took that opportunity when presented with it, rather than take the easier option.
all i was saying was that he knows them all well from the saxons having coached them all at some stage. kidney doesn't coach the wolfhounds so wouldnt have the same knowledge of a player if he was coaching them .
Kidney has coached Leinster and Munster this season. That's where the photo that looks like Schmidt lecturing Kidney cane out of. Granted it was probably only as a spectator but he should know how all these guys train.

Also Kidney did coach the Wolfhounds in Denver in 09!
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