So, you're officially long term unemployed

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 12:49pm

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

for me it was like this

apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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receive email from Recruitment firm asking me for an updated CV
upload updated cv
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apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
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apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
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get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
apply for jobs
wait
get automated response email acknowledging receiving your applications
wait
receive email from Recruitment firm asking me for an updated CV
upload updated cv
wait

as you can see thats pretty soul destroying when companies don't actually send you a personal response.

in the end i took an internship just to get out of the house

That is very true and with all the waiting is a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Even Jesus Christ wouldn't be good enought for the jobs.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 12:58pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I know a few people who rarely had steady jobs in their lives. One is kind of different but intelligent..I think that's why not many people want to give her a chance and the other person has had such bad experiences in the few jobs he had i.e the boss and workers treated him badly no matter how hard he tried to fit in so now he is in fear of having to look for a job because he has low self esteem and confidence from the last jobs he had that he believes hes not good enought.

Well if your different in any way it's a lot harder to get a job. You have to be like everyone else to get a job or fit in with everyone, that's one hidden requirement. You could be friendily with excellent communication skills but they do not like your personality because you think differently or maybe because you are not into drinking and the usually things a 20 somethings should be in to because you are christian or are into volunteering etc.

04-05-2012 1:00pm

Anyone who has time to learn a language when unemployed obviously isn't looking for work hard enough.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 1:04pm

its unfair to tar us all with the same brush,there is 14 percent unemployment in ireland.a lot of people have been laid off and there havent been a lot of new jobs advertised..yeah i learned a few new things,done a few courses,even done some volunteer work recently,did a ce term too,not that it came to much in fact,it was one of the worst things to have down on my cv,there is a perception out there amongst interviewers that those with ce experience are mainly dole layabouts..
free worker scheme didnt benefit me whatsoever and i wouldnt advise it,it consigns communities to even longer mass unemployment,think of it,what multinational will go ahead paying for workers when they can get them for free off of fas/jobridge?they wont.
http://politico.ie/social-issues/8313-pathways-to-work-or-pathways-to-poverty.html

Jimmyhologram · 04-05-2012 1:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone who has time to learn a language when unemployed obviously isn't looking for work hard enough.

Short-sighted Nonsense. It's impractical (and unhealthy) to spend every waking hour of the day on the internet looking for a job. A new language is a great way to keep the mind agile and improve job prospects at the same time.

04-05-2012 1:13pm

yore wrote: »

Great. When did you become "Der Furher" of what people do and do not want to see. If I post it, just don't look at it!

It was an opinion kid. But seriously, you shouldn't post it

04-05-2012 1:15pm

yore wrote: »

Great. When did you become "Der Furher" of what people do and do not want to see. If I post it, just don't look at it!

And by the way can I use the name "Der Furher"?

I like it

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 1:18pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

its unfair to tar us all with the same brush,there is 14 percent unemployment in ireland.a lot of people have been laid off and there havent been a lot of new jobs advertised..yeah i learned a few new things,done a few courses,even done some volunteer work recently,did a ce term too,not that it came to much in fact,it was one of the worst things to have down on my cv,there is a perception out there amongst interviewers that those with ce experience are mainly dole layabouts..
free worker scheme didnt benefit me whatsoever and i wouldnt advise it,it consigns communities to even longer mass unemployment,think of it,what multinational will go ahead paying for workers when they can get them for free off of fas/jobridge?they wont.
http://politico.ie/social-issues/8313-pathways-to-work-or-pathways-to-poverty.html

I used to be long term unemployed I applied for a few CE schemes, there was 3 people interviewing me! for a part-time, admin assistant, min wage job where experience is not necessary.

Those CE are deceiving people they do not give people who are genuinely hardworking a chance at all.

Banditoo · 04-05-2012 1:18pm

They turk r jibs

mattjack · 04-05-2012 2:25pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

its unfair to tar us all with the same brush,there is 14 percent unemployment in ireland.a lot of people have been laid off and there havent been a lot of new jobs advertised..yeah i learned a few new things,done a few courses,even done some volunteer work recently,did a ce term too,not that it came to much in fact,it was one of the worst things to have down on my cv,there is a perception out there amongst interviewers that those with ce experience are mainly dole layabouts..
free worker scheme didnt benefit me whatsoever and i wouldnt advise it,it consigns communities to even longer mass unemployment,think of it,what multinational will go ahead paying for workers when they can get them for free off of fas/jobridge?they wont.
http://politico.ie/social-issues/8313-pathways-to-work-or-pathways-to-poverty.html

decembersun77 wrote: »

I used to be long term unemployed I applied for a few CE schemes, there was 3 people interviewing me! for a part-time, admin assistant, min wage job where experience is not necessary.

Those CE are deceiving people they do not give people who are genuinely hardworking a chance at all.

I,m on a CE scheme at the moment, and I know they are extremely difficult to get on.The one I'm on has given me the chance to return to third level education.

I ,ve also been offered two jobs on the basis of the CE scheme and I ,ve got to decide either to take the jobs or continue in college.

The CE funded most of my third level.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 2:30pm

some people are there to just top up their dole or told their going to be struck off the dole if they dont do a ce scheme.but lately i have been looking at the fas website and its ridiculous,they have advertisments for free labour ce schemes for wiping asses of alzheimers patients,and get this you have to have a b license car so you can drive around(NO EXPENSES PAID)for basically 20 above the dole to drive around like a skivvy..Ive seen ce 'job' adverts for working in multinationals where they have plenty of expendible income,they could afford to take on paid workers but dont.Adverts for selling shoes for no pay.It wouldnt pay you to take one of these ce jobs,where is the pressure from government to force these recession proof businesses to take on paid workers with quangos like FAS and JOBRIDGE blocking the way?

mattjack · 04-05-2012 2:34pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

some people are there to just top up their dole or told their going to be struck off the dole if they dont do a ce scheme.but lately i have been looking at the fas website and its ridiculous,they have advertisments for free labour ce schemes for wiping asses of alzheimers patients,and get this you have to have a b license car so you can drive around(NO EXPENSES PAID)for basically 20 above the dole to drive around like a skivvy..Ive seen ce 'job' adverts for working in multinationals where they have plenty of expendible income,they could afford to take on paid workers but dont.Adverts for selling shoes for no pay.It wouldnt pay you to take one of these ce jobs,where is the pressure from government to force these recession proof businesses to take on paid workers with quangos like FAS and JOBRIDGE blocking the way?

Rubbish..... CEs are not forced on you , no multinationals are involved in CE schemes.

CE schemes only operate through community groups or charitys not private employers.

Read my post, I,m on a CE scheme.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 2:34pm

''The CE funded most of my third level''..

Ce courses most of them are over ten years old or more,nothing beyond fetac,there are no diploma or degree courses on ce (otherwise,everybody would be doing them,and there would be no trinity or lit students to speak of)and they dont fund third level courses,take a look at the fas website or drop into them,i have and they do not fund third level i know that for a fact.

In my experience(im only speaking for myself and others i have worked with on ce schemes),i have been told aswell by a fas offical off the record that,the hiring rate after the cessation of a ce term ending is very very poor.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 2:35pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

''The CE funded most of my third level''..

Ce courses most of them are over ten years old or more,nothing beyond fetac,there are no diploma or degree courses on ce (otherwise,everybody would be doing them,and there would be no trinity or lit students to speak of)and they dont fund third level courses,take a look at the fas website or drop into them,i have and they do not fund third level i know that for a fact.

In my experience(im only speaking for myself and others i have worked with on ce schemes),i have been told aswell by a fas offical off the record that,the hiring rate after the cessation of a ce term ending is very very poor.

Wrong ... I ,ve just completed a cert from the school of social science in UCD and hope to continue to Dip level.... partially funded by fas.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 2:37pm

ABSOLUTE BULL**** FAS DONT FUND DIPLOMA COURSES OR DEGREE I EVEN ASKED..FAS AND JOBRIDGE AT BEST AND JOB BLOCKERS AND TIME WASTERS

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 2:41pm

It boggles the mind why anybody would OUTRIGHTLY DEFEND A FREE LABOUR EXPLOITATION SCHEME..

I have an aunt who worked on one of those schemes and it was the worst thing to happen to her,i have worked one of these ce schemes also,and they suck what could have been a paid job out of the community.

Ive seen care ads that should have paid workers,ive seen shop ads that should have paid workers,ads for waitressing in busy coffee shops etc!

Internships for wiping tables?

They are having a laugh at our expense.

stupidusername · 04-05-2012 2:56pm

christmas I think you're mixing up internships with CE schemes there.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:10pm

mattjack wrote: »

I,m on a CE scheme at the moment, and I know they are extremely difficult to get on.The one I'm on has given me the chance to return to third level education.

I ,ve also been offered two jobs on the basis of the CE scheme and I ,ve got to decide either to take the jobs or continue in college.

The CE funded most of my third level.

So CE scheme fund yout to go to 3rd level? I never heard of that.

I always thought that CE schemes were for the long term unemployed as a stepping stone to prepare people towards a full time job so why are they that difficult to get on??? They should not be difficullt to get on, they should be accessible and available to genuinely hardworking people who need a chance and a bit of confidence.
I know a girl I mentioned her earlier, shes 24, she didn't go to college, she did a few FAS courses and a FETAC course. She never had a steady job even though she is hardworking and intelligent, she has unemployed long term on and off since past 4 years, she applied for a good few CE schemes but she always got rejected. The thing about CE schemes as they always say that 'experience is not neccessary' if so why do they ask you about experience? Do they not see there are gaps in the CV.

Those CE schemes are a dishonest and deceptive system where there is little to no growth for a person personally and professionally. They don't give jobs to the long term unemplyed people who are hardworking and intelligent.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 3:17pm

they cherrypick thats why they dont give them out to the ones who need it,or would tend to be more serious about doing a ce scheme.they shoudnt get away with it either,there should be a system in place where these ce schemes are allocated people instead of letting them do the picking,its an unfair system in place.these free labour schemes are joblockers and are a scam.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:23pm

Each CE supervisor has funding to allocate for each participant to further their education.

You either pick or a course is allocated to you if want.

I started of as a maintenance op. for a charity, while there my supervisor asked me to pick something to do.

I picked an MQI cert/dip ran in conjunction with the school of social science in UCD.

I've just completed the first year with an exit option or I can continue to a further level.

Fas have funded most of the first year , apart from one or two costs.

Next year I,m hoping to continue at DIP level depending on funding and passing an interview.

About 10 of 30 or so students in my class are CE.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:30pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

they cherrypick thats why they dont give them out to the ones who need it,or would tend to be more serious about doing a ce scheme.they shoudnt get away with it either,there should be a system in place where these ce schemes are allocated people instead of letting them do the picking,its an unfair system in place.these free labour schemes are joblockers and are a scam.

So what you are saying is they are actively deceiving the vast majority of the long term unemployed who apply for CE schemes, alot of unemployed people are vulernable and the longer they arte unemployed the more they are losing their confidence and self esteem and the more harder it is getting for them to work.

What is wrong with this country, can they not make one honest system in place for the vulnerable people of it's society i.e long term unemployed.

There are a number of men from my town who took their lives, they were working mostly all their lifes and lost their job at start of recession and it seems they couldn't handle being unmployed so long. Unemployment is definintely a factor in suicide from what I have seen.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:34pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

So what you are saying is they are actively deceiving the vast majority of the long term unemployed who apply for CE schemes, alot of unemployed people are vulernable and the longer they arte unemployed the more they are losing their confidence and self esteem and the more harder it is getting for them to work.

What is wrong with this country, can they not make one honest system in place for the vulnerable people of it's society i.e long term unemployed.

There are a number of men from my town who took their lives, they were working mostly all their lifes and lost their job at start of recession and it seems they couldn't handle being unmployed so long. Unemployment is definintely a factor in suicide from what I have seen.

I don't know about actively decieving people , but CE schemes are obliged to have 10 % of thier vacancies for disabled , both intellectually and physical and employ a wide variety of people from different age groups, genders , nationalities and of different ability and skill. Which the CE I,m does.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:37pm

mattjack wrote: »

Each CE supervisor has funding to allocate for each participant to further their education.

You either pick or a course is allocated to you if want.

I started of as a maintenance op. for a charity, while there my supervisor asked me to pick something to do.

I picked an MQI cert/dip ran in conjunction with the school of social science in UCD.

I've just completed the first year with an exit option or I can continue to a further level.

Fas have funded most of the first year , apart from one or two costs.

Next year I,m hoping to continue at DIP level depending on funding and passing an interview.

About 10 of 30 or so students in my class are CE.

Would you of been picked for the CE scheme if you didn't have a FAS course or FETAC or much work experience in your life or skills?

The CE scheme is dishonesty of the highest rank, it's suppose to help the long term unemployed. it's not helping unemployed people with no qualification and people from marginalised, disadvantage areas and situations with big gaps in CVs and not much work experience in life - they are the ones who need it most because they will be far longer on welfare.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:39pm

mattjack wrote: »

I don't know about actively decieving people , but CE schemes are obliged to have 10 % of thier vacancies for disabled , both intellectually and physical and employ a wide variety of people from different age groups, genders , nationalities and of different ability and skill. Which the CE I,m does.

isnt that not what every employers does? That is basic.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:40pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

Would you of been picked for the CE scheme if you didn't have a FAS course or FETAC or much work experience in your life or skills?

The CE scheme is dishonesty of the highest rank, it's suppose to help the long term unemployed. it's not helping unemployed people with no qualification and people from marginalised, disadvantage areas and situations with big gaps in CVs and not much work experience in life - they are the ones who need it most because they will be far longer on welfare.

I was long term unemployed and have a slight learning disability.And I didnt have any Fas or Fetac courses done.

Phat Cat · 04-05-2012 3:42pm

mattjack wrote: »

I,m on a CE scheme at the moment, and I know they are extremely difficult to get on.The one I'm on has given me the chance to return to third level education.

I ,ve also been offered two jobs on the basis of the CE scheme and I ,ve got to decide either to take the jobs or continue in college.

The CE funded most of my third level.

I call b.s. on that! My wife did a CE scheme for 2 years back in 2004/2005 and the training allowance was capped at €500 per participant back then.

There is no way on earth that they shelled out a couple a grand per year for your third level education.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:44pm

mattjack wrote: »

I was long term unemployed and have a slight learning disability.And I didnt have any Fas or Fetac courses done.

You must of had work experience then...a learning disability doesn't mean you are less or more likely to get a job, you are the same as everyone else and should be treated equally.

People with a mental illness as a disability are the most likely to be not treated equally in terms of work and career.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:45pm

Maybe I,m imagining my last year.Maybe I wasnt in UCD.Maybe I have no results from this year, maybe I had no lecture today.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:46pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

You must of had work experience then...a learning disability doesn't mean you are less or more likely to get a job, you are the same as everyone else and should be treated equally.

People with a mental illness as a disability are the most likely to be not treated equally in terms of work and career.

I have work experience,... depends very much on the mental illness.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:47pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

I call b.s. on that! My wife did a CE scheme for 2 years back in 2004/2005 and the training allowance was capped at €500 per participant back then.

There is no way on earth that they shelled out a couple a grand per year for your third level education.

Call what you want .

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 3:48pm

mattjack wrote: »

Next year I,m hoping to continue at DIP level depending on funding and passing an interview.

About 10 of 30 or so students in my class are CE.

As i have stated before they don't fund diploma/degree courses,i have checked for myself,they fund nothing past fetac course,if you do a follow up course its off your own bat(your own funding).
Most ce courses like ECDL,are fetac courses over ten years out of date,thats a fact.

As for the cherrypicking it still goes on,i know a few people who started a ce course just as i finished up,none of them had gaps in their CV,they are looking for people with experience,yet say no experience is nessecary,it should be there for people who need it,when i was there,some people were just there on ce schemes to top up their dole by a few euros,while others never had a gap in their cv jumped from being employed let go and straight to a ce scheme,yet they say there there for the long term unemployed who are looking for work,its an unfair system.
Thats what happens when these people are allowed to pick the ce workers,the government should step in and allocate the ce workers to the job that way the system cannot be abused.
Ive seen instances where when a ce workers term is finished they are discarded,while they just hire the next freebie.
Thats perpetuating unemployment,a lot these employers can afford to hire yet dont cos fas and jobridge are in the way joblocking.
Millions is spent on these quangos,jobs for joan burtons cronies,as far as im concerned joan burton and her cronies are robbing jobs from the poor and those who are long term unemployed.
http://politico.ie/social-issues/8313-pathways-to-work-or-pathways-to-poverty.html

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:51pm

mattjack wrote: »

I have work experience,... depends very much on the mental illness.

Yea that is what I am saying you probably had work experience that is one main reason why you got the CE schme. Because I know they woulsnt give it to some who had little work experience with no courses and no formal education.

Well, it shouldn't depend on what disability a person has whether they have a mental illness, whether they have a hearing impairment or whether they have an intellecual disability.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:55pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

Yea that is what I am saying you probably had work experience that is one main reason why you got the CE schme. Because I know they woulsnt give it to some who had little work experience with no courses and no formal education.

Well, it shouldn't depend on what disability a person has whether they have a mental illness, whether they have a hearing impairment or whether they have an intellecual disability.

I work on a CE scheme between charities. Both have employed people directly with no work experience.

The first one employed me because of a skill I have.
The second one employed me without any skill/qualification on the basis of a placement.

stupidusername · 04-05-2012 3:55pm

I think it could be a good idea for the government to place the people into the ce schemes and internships. two companies i interviewed for (for JobBridge internships) are still advertising the positions, after interviewing a few people. one of them flat out told me that they're only doing it because they can't afford to pay someone, but need to get the work done. they obviously just signed up so that they can get someone with experience to sit straight into the job. it's not what the scheme is designed for.

I had some hope that i could get a ce scheme job, but now i'm not sure...

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 3:56pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

As i have stated before they don't fund diploma/degree courses,i have checked for myself,they fund nothing past fetac course,if you do a follow up course its off your own bat(your own funding).
Most ce courses like ECDL,are fetac courses over ten years out of date,thats a fact.

As for the cherrypicking it still goes on,i know a few people who started a ce course just as i finished up,none of them had gaps in their CV,they are looking for people with experience,yet say no experience is nessecary,it should be there for people who need it,when i was there,some people were just there on ce schemes to top up their dole by a few euros,while others never had a gap in their cv jumped from being employed let go and straight to a ce scheme,yet they say there there for the long term unemployed who are looking for work,its an unfair system.
Thats what happens when these people are allowed to pick the ce workers,the government should step in and allocate the ce workers to the job that way the system cannot be abused.
Ive seen instances where when a ce workers term is finished they are discarded,while they just hire the next freebie.
Thats perpetuating unemployment,a lot these employers can afford to hire yet dont cos fas and jobridge are in the way joblocking.
Millions is spent on these quangos,jobs for joan burtons cronies,as far as im concerned joan burton and her cronies are robbing jobs from the poor and those who are long term unemployed.
http://politico.ie/social-issues/8313-pathways-to-work-or-pathways-to-poverty.html

Yes , the CE schmes are dishonesty of the highest rank. There are telling bare faced lies to vulerable unemployed people. Very deceptive system. I do not know how some people sleep at night.
There is very little help in this country for vulerable people who genuinely want to make themselves and their life better, the more vulerable you are, the more obscales there is for you here.

Dead Kennedys · 04-05-2012 3:57pm

mattjack wrote: »

In the Valley of Twitching Curtains, there lived a Watcher who spent every moment Watching his neighbours (across the Green)....

mattjack · 04-05-2012 3:59pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

As i have stated before they don't fund diploma/degree courses,i have checked for myself,they fund nothing past fetac course,if you do a follow up course its off your own bat(your own funding).
Most ce courses like ECDL,are fetac courses over ten years out of date,thats a fact.

My Fas supervisors will fund to the best of thier ability a course one it makes sense to do it and depending on the funding available.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 4:01pm

mattjack wrote: »

I work on a CE scheme between charities. Both have employed people directly with no work experience.

The first one employed me because of a skill I have.
The second one employed me without any skill/qualification on the basis of a placement.

That is very very rare. Maybe those people are from rathfarnham or there must to some factors there because they got accepted maybe their age, etc.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 4:01pm

a lot of these companies hired have been found out that they can afford to hire but dont when they get the fas/jobridge freebies..

mattjack · 04-05-2012 4:01pm

stupidusername wrote: »

I think it could be a good idea for the government to place the people into the ce schemes and internships. two companies i interviewed for (for JobBridge internships) are still advertising the positions, after interviewing a few people. one of them flat out told me that they're only doing it because they can't afford to pay someone, but need to get the work done. they obviously just signed up so that they can get someone with experience to sit straight into the job. it's not what the scheme is designed for.

I had some hope that i could get a ce scheme job, but now i'm not sure...

CE schemes are very difficult to access at the moment.

Keep trying.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 4:02pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

That is very very rare. Maybe those people are from rathfarnham or there must to some factors there because they got accepted maybe their age, etc.

WTF ?

mattjack · 04-05-2012 4:03pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

a lot of these companies hired have been found out that they can afford to hire but dont when they get the fas/jobridge freebies..

I know nothing about Job bridge or TUS

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 4:03pm

stupidusername wrote: »

I think it could be a good idea for the government to place the people into the ce schemes and internships. two companies i interviewed for (for JobBridge internships) are still advertising the positions, after interviewing a few people. one of them flat out told me that they're only doing it because they can't afford to pay someone, but need to get the work done. they obviously just signed up so that they can get someone with experience to sit straight into the job. it's not what the scheme is designed for.

I had some hope that i could get a ce scheme job, but now i'm not sure...

It's all a mess and they wonder why Ireland has the 5th highest Youth suicide rate in Europe. They do not do much to help the people who need help and pretend that they do but when it's actually all lies behind it.

stupidusername · 04-05-2012 4:04pm

mattjack wrote: »

CE schemes are very difficult to access at the moment.

Keep trying.

I will, but it seems I just can't get anything.

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 4:06pm

My Fas supervisors will fund to the best of thier ability a course one it makes sense to do it and depending on the funding available.

You jump from saying that now they fund to the best of their ability,first you were saying they fund diploma courses?

it boggles the mind how anybody would defend a free labour exploitation scheme,which is responsible for robbing what could be a paid job from the community.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 4:08pm

mattjack wrote: »

CE schemes are very difficult to access at the moment.

Keep trying.

They should not be difficult at all. They are difficult because they are deceiving people. Are they going to give a CE scheme to a homeless man and a former addict who has been one the streets for 2 years and now is back on the right road and has a house but unemployed for one year, the answer is highly likely to be no.

decembersun77 · 04-05-2012 4:15pm

mattjack wrote: »

WTF ?

Well there has to be some reasons, if your over 30 female, unemployed with little to no qualifications, work experience and skills and if your from ballynum or a social disadvantaged area or in a socially disadvantaged situation i.e if you don't have family in Ireland, if your english or scottish or your family are dead and if you are a former drug addict or have been in prison then then it's highly likely you will not be considered for the CE scheme. Can you not see that? it's plain to be see. one or more of these factors are accurate for them to refuse you.

Phat Cat · 04-05-2012 4:56pm

mattjack wrote: »

Call what you want .

I just did and you didn't deny it.

The cap on training allowances for participants on CE schemes was €500 per year 6 years ago. With all of the recent budget cuts do you seriously want people to believe that you are getting the guts of €3k+ per year for a third level course through a CE scheme?

mattjack · 04-05-2012 5:20pm

decembersun77 wrote: »

They should not be difficult at all. They are difficult because they are deceiving people. Are they going to give a CE scheme to a homeless man and a former addict who has been one the streets for 2 years and now is back on the right road and has a house but unemployed for one year, the answer is highly likely to be no.

decembersun77 wrote: »

Well there has to be some reasons, if your over 30 female, unemployed with little to no qualifications, work experience and skills and if your from ballynum or a social disadvantaged area or in a socially disadvantaged situation i.e if you don't have family in Ireland, if your english or scottish or your family are dead and if you are a former drug addict or have been in prison then then it's highly likely you will not be considered for the CE scheme. Can you not see that? it's plain to be see. one or more of these factors are accurate for them to refuse you.

Some of the participants on the CE scheme I'm on are ex addicts/alcoholics, a number are former prisoners in my class. Don't know about homeless

I know quite a few who meet all those criteria.

mattjack · 04-05-2012 5:24pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

I just did and you didn't deny it.

The cap on training allowances for participants on CE schemes was €500 per year 6 years ago. With all of the recent budget cuts do you seriously want people to believe that you are getting the guts of €3k+ per year for a third level course through a CE scheme?

My course wasnt 3k plus.Fas funded most of it.I funded a little bit myself.

So, you're officially long term unemployed

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