The Beer Market Pub, Christ Church

Lovely Bloke · 21-04-2015 11:33am

I cook my steaks at home sometimes, and while they aren't as nice as what you get in Shanhan's, they are still pretty good.

billythefish99 · 21-04-2015 11:50am

squonk wrote: »

Paying €5 and upwards to drinks becomes a very expensive night very quickly.

5 quid is not expensive though? If I go to Beermarket and have 4 world class beers over an hour and a half or two hours for 20-25 quid thats value in my book. Bars like this are not for drinking litres and litres of beer in, any more than Mikkeller is. People keep trying to apply the "traditional Irish pub" model to everything, thats not what this is. Its a bar for beer geeks, not for the ordinary joe soap.

oblivious · 21-04-2015 11:56am

billythefish99 wrote: »

5 quid is not expensive though? If I go to Beermarket and have 4 world class beers over an hour and a half or two hours for 20-25 quid thats value in my book. Bars like this are not for drinking litres and litres of beer in, any more than Mikkeller is. People keep trying to apply the "traditional Irish pub" model to everything, thats not what this is. Its a bar for beer geeks, not for the ordinary joe soap.

I bet that's the model they are aiming for. I suppose there pressure will to keep unique and different beer that other importers/bars will have not have

Lovely Bloke · 21-04-2015 12:53pm

There is immense pressure on the breweries to produce "one offs" and "specials" for the Growler scene, I know of two off licences that were very, very reticent to put in an expensive Growler system without the promise of regular irregular beers to sell.

I think they also get this pressure from the craft beer pubs too.

billythefish99 · 21-04-2015 2:20pm

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

There is immense pressure on the breweries to produce "one offs" and "specials" for the Growler scene, I know of two off licences that were very, very reticent to put in an expensive Growler system without the promise of regular irregular beers to sell.

I think they also get this pressure from the craft beer pubs too.

This is a good thing!

symbolic · 22-04-2015 1:55pm

Looking forward to checking this place out. Beer only sounds great!

What's the point in the numbers at the customer side of the taps?

oblivious · 22-04-2015 2:17pm

symbolic wrote: »

What's the point in the numbers at the customer side of the taps?

order by number, there is list of beers with associated numbers above the bar

Lovely Bloke · 22-04-2015 2:48pm

Are they going to force people to do this?

"I'll have a six, a seven and a nine please".

Er , nope, I want to order my beer by name, same as I do in every other pub I've ever been into. Don't try to force some weird system onto me.

oblivious · 22-04-2015 2:54pm

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Are they going to force people to do this?

"I'll have a six, a seven and a nine please".

Er , nope, I want to order my beer by name, same as I do in every other pub I've ever been into. Don't try to force some weird system onto me.

Dont know, but the model looks like it's trying to brake away from your standard pub format

slayerking · 22-04-2015 3:17pm

Sounds similar to a chinese take away.... order by number, drink in or take away.

RasTa · 22-04-2015 3:24pm

It's going to be the same as Biercab in Barca, you order by number. No big deal.

Although looks like chalk as opposed to digital

snowblind · 22-04-2015 3:27pm

symbolic · 22-04-2015 3:41pm

oblivious wrote: »

order by number, there is list of beers with associated numbers above the bar

Yeah I'm good with the number and list. The numbers at the taps just seemed unnecessary.

slayerking · 22-04-2015 3:44pm

That's a serious line up right there.

snowblind · 22-04-2015 3:53pm

Not my photos btw, will try to get there on the weekend.

The numbers/taps thing is pretty simple and I've been to loads of pubs that have a similar system. The Irish Times article was weird, sounds like they were struggling to understand the concept while trying hard to make it sound like this is something unheard of. Four words: "all taps on rotation", that about covers it of course

Zaph · 22-04-2015 8:19pm

I've no problem with the numbering system, but unless you know each beer already there's no indication of what style most of them are.

Passenger · 22-04-2015 8:25pm

Zaph wrote: »

I've no problem with the numbering system, but unless you know each beer already there's no indication of what style most of them are.

Yup. You still have to ask the barstaff what each beer is on the list. If it said IPA, Porter, etc. beside each name it would save a lot of hemming and hawing.

irish_goat · 22-04-2015 8:43pm

The trick behind that is it forces the barstaff to be more knowledgeable about the beers, and at the same time, forces customers to interact more with the staff, in theory, leading to a better experience and more repeat custom.

BeerNut · 22-04-2015 8:47pm

What? Sorry? I was busy looking up the beers on my phone...

Passenger · 22-04-2015 8:50pm

BeerNut wrote: »

What? Sorry? I was busy looking up the beers on my phone...

Lol. I have a tendency to do that if I'm sitting at the bar. Going through the taps one by one.

billythefish99 · 22-04-2015 10:07pm

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Are they going to force people to do this?

"I'll have a six, a seven and a nine please".

Er , nope, I want to order my beer by name, same as I do in every other pub I've ever been into. Don't try to force some weird system onto me.

This is how it works in the likes of Mikkeller etc. This is not the same as every other pub you've been to, that's the point.

Was there tonight, it was rammed and the beer was superb. Delighted Dublin has a bar such as this, ballsy move from GBB. There's enough of a market there from the Dublin beer geek set and beer tourists for it to do really well.

cormacjones · 22-04-2015 10:46pm

The next person who mentions Mikkeller again....

Herb Powell · 22-04-2015 10:53pm

Mi Keller tu keller, compadre

Red Wolf · 22-04-2015 11:13pm

Elk Milker

symbolic · 22-04-2015 11:14pm

Mikkeller!

Lovely Bloke · 23-04-2015 10:59am

Mick, Mick Eile, a h-aon, a dó

irish_goat · 23-04-2015 11:06am

Looking forward to Mick O'Keller's opening in Temple Bar.

RasTa · 23-04-2015 1:10pm

Ended up there last night, was so so. Very hot inside. Not sure I liked the layout

the beer revolu · 25-04-2015 10:12am

From a picture I saw somewhere, it looks like they serve bottles too. For some reason, that was a disappointment to me.

Definitely going to pop in when next in Dublin.

Chelon · 25-04-2015 1:29pm

Any cask on show there?

BeerNut · 25-04-2015 1:57pm

No. And no plans for it.

finatron · 26-04-2015 10:46pm

Got to check out the place yesterday. I was really looking forward so maybe I was hopeing for too much It was very busy and crazy hot. The layout is not great but that can be tweaked.
The few beers I had where great no problem in that department.
The 2 things I would change if I was ruining the place is take the stools away from the bar. There's no room for people to talk to the bar staff and actually figure out what beer they want.
Also disappointed to see food available maybe it's just me but I don't want the smell of reheated pies wafting around when I've just paid €8 for a beer.
It's great idea for bar and I'll defo visit every time I'm in Dublin.

Louche Lad · 26-04-2015 11:28pm

finatron wrote: »

Got to check out the place yesterday. I was really looking forward so maybe I was hopeing for too much It was very busy and crazy hot. The layout is not great but that can be tweaked.
The few beers I had where great no problem in that department.
The 2 things I would change if I was ruining the place is take the stools away from the bar. There's no room for people to talk to the bar staff and actually figure out what beer they want.
Also disappointed to see food available maybe it's just me but I don't want the smell of reheated pies wafting around when I've just paid €8 for a beer.
It's great idea for bar and I'll defo visit every time I'm in Dublin.

I was there a few days ago, and agree about taking the stools away from the bar. Although the beers are easily viewed on the boards above the bar, people drinking at the bar do get in the way of ordering. I know drinking at the bar is more convivial for some, the bar isn't long enough for that.

Also, I agree about the pies — I don't want smelly food around me. What I'd like is cheese — I had a great snack of various different cheeses, served with pickles and crackers or something, in a pub in Bradford a few months ago. Went perfectly with the beers.

quadrifoglio verde · 27-04-2015 2:26am

Louche Lad wrote: »

I was there a few days ago, and agree about taking the stools away from the bar. Although the beers are easily viewed on the boards above the bar, people drinking at the bar do get in the way of ordering. I know drinking at the bar is more convivial for some, the bar isn't long enough for that.

Also, I agree about the pies — I don't want smelly food around me. What I'd like is cheese — I had a great snack of various different cheeses, served with pickles and crackers or something, in a pub in Bradford a few months ago. Went perfectly with the beers.

The great thing about stools is you can go there on your own and sit at the bar.
You can't really sit on your own with a table to yourself when the place is busy....although an Area reserved for people on their own would be a good idea, you end up sitting with random people who you'll get talking too

finatron · 27-04-2015 7:23am

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

The great thing about stools is you can go there on your own and sit at the bar.
You can't really sit on your own with a table to yourself when the place is busy....although an Area reserved for people on their own would be a good idea, you end up sitting with random people who you'll get talking too

Ya thats true but it was pretty impossible to talk to staff as you had to stand between people who where together you didn't want to impose too long.

MonkstownHoop · 27-04-2015 7:45am

Louche Lad wrote: »

I was there a few days ago, and agree about taking the stools away from the bar. Although the beers are easily viewed on the boards above the bar, people drinking at the bar do get in the way of ordering. I know drinking at the bar is more convivial for some, the bar isn't long enough for that.

Also, I agree about the pies — I don't want smelly food around me. What I'd like is cheese — I had a great snack of various different cheeses, served with pickles and crackers or something, in a pub in Bradford a few months ago. Went perfectly with the beers.

I hate the smell of cheese

BaZmO* · 27-04-2015 8:18am

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

I hate the smell of cheese

"SMELL MY CHEEEEESE!!!"

oblivious · 27-04-2015 9:04am

BaZmO* wrote: »

"SMELL MY CHEEEEESE!!!"

MonkstownHoop · 27-04-2015 10:54pm

oblivious wrote: »

Ha ha, going to be up that direction Saturday night, I presume they sell soft drinks? The OH probably won't be drinking or more likely won't drink anything they have.

nosietoes · 28-04-2015 12:22am

yeah my fella had a san pellegrino blood orange when we were there. He had one stout but wasn't in the mood for a second and only drinks stout or cider (of which there was none... yet)

Ipso · 28-04-2015 12:24am

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

I hate the smell of cheese

Even worse than the taste.

billythefish99 · 28-04-2015 9:26am

Beer people who dont like cheese, sacriledge

Passenger · 03-05-2015 4:23pm

Very nice bar and pleasant experience with the staff on first visit. With the nooks and crannies upstairs and downstairs, it might be limited for space when busy however.

Great beer selection and most beers on tap were served in 33cl stemmed glasses and the pies appeared to be gobbled up left, right and center.

A beer menu detailing flavours and other additional details might be an idea and may save barstaff being expected to explain the particulars of every beer to customers when busy. Consulting the smartphone while reading the beerboard would be a nuisance. Removing a few of the stools at the bar might also free up a little space when busy. Overall though, good selection of beers, a nice atmosphere and an enjoyable experience.

BeerNut · 04-05-2015 1:40pm

Passenger wrote: »

A beer menu detailing flavours and other additional details might be an idea and may save barstaff being expected to explain the particulars of every beer to customers when busy. Consulting the smartphone while reading the beerboard would be a nuisance.

The beers change too often for that to be practical.

Ranchu · 04-05-2015 2:20pm

Nice staff and a good atmosphere but no IPA available in a pint which was dissapointing. I'm still not a fan of this policy of serving almost everything in 330ml glasses. Looking at the menu most of the drinks would have been working out at close to a tenner a pint. Anyway it was pretty dead on a Saturday night and that location is cursed so I'm afraid this place has no chance.

lk67 · 04-05-2015 4:08pm

Ranchu wrote: »

Nice staff and a good atmosphere but no IPA available in a pint which was dissapointing. I'm still not a fan of this policy of serving almost everything in 330ml glasses. Looking at the menu most of the drinks would have been working out at close to a tenner a pint. Anyway it was pretty dead on a Saturday night and that location is cursed so I'm afraid this place has no chance.

I guess their argument would be that there's plenty of places to get pints of IPA, or other beers, but that they want to become a destination for beer tickers and those seeking the harder to get beers, both tourists and locals.

Ranchu · 04-05-2015 4:18pm

lk67 wrote: »

I guess their argument would be that there's plenty of places to get pints of IPA, or other beers, but that they want to become a destination for beer tickers and those seeking the harder to get beers, both tourists and locals.

That could be true but there wasn't really anything you wouldn't see elsewhere over time. There might have been a bigger selection on draught in one place but I just don't see how they think there are enough people to keep a customer base which is going to be largely male beer anoraks coming back on a consistent basis to turn a profit. I'd never be able to convince my missus to go in there for a pint, the crowd I was with were half female and they would have preferred to drink wine.

lk67 · 04-05-2015 5:01pm

Ranchu wrote: »

That could be true but there wasn't really anything you wouldn't see elsewhere over time. There might have been a bigger selection on draught in one place but I just don't see how they think there are enough people to keep a customer base which is going to be largely male beer anoraks coming back on a consistent basis to turn a profit. I'd never be able to convince my missus to go in there for a pint, the crowd I was with were half female and they would have preferred to drink wine.

I was there last week and of the 18 beers on at least 75% were uncommon or very new releases so not sure if they will be anywhere else but they certainly hadn't been afaik, but I only get up to Dublin once a month or so. But that was last week of course...

I'd agree to an extent about the clientele, although there were both male and female drinkers when I was there, but beer nerds of both sexes do travel.

I was really just offering a suggestion of how they might be thinking. Personally I hope they do well.

BaZmO* · 04-05-2015 5:10pm

Ranchu wrote: »

That could be true but there wasn't really anything you wouldn't see elsewhere over time. There might have been a bigger selection on draught in one place but I just don't see how they think there are enough people to keep a customer base which is going to be largely male beer anoraks coming back on a consistent basis to turn a profit. I'd never be able to convince my missus to go in there for a pint, the crowd I was with were half female and they would have preferred to drink wine.

LOL

"Pint for the fella, glass of white wine, fruit based drink for the lady"

seiphil · 04-05-2015 5:18pm

Went in on Friday for the first time. I liked it. Thought the selection of beers was excellent. Only one pint on the menu but that didn't bother me.

Not mad on the premises and the layout mind you. 3 very small floors makes everything seem very tight. I hope it sticks around. Its good to go in for 2/3 drinks.

The Beer Market Pub, Christ Church

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