Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

athtrasna · 28-02-2014 6:20pm

Arciphel wrote: »

From facebook - Beechfield Residents Assocation

The advice we are giving our residents is make sure you set your house alarm and keep valuables out of sight and keep car keys off the hall table.

Would they prefer if the burglars tore through the house looking for keys? This is a no brainer, cars can be replaced.

nudger · 28-02-2014 8:01pm

athtrasna wrote: »

Would they prefer if the burglars tore through the house looking for keys? This is a no brainer, cars can be replaced.

Increase your house security, have pride in what you have worked hard for and protect it, if not just leave the keys in the ignition.

I happily spend money to make my family and home safe, sure insurance will cover things but hiding in the corner is not the way to go.

January · 28-02-2014 8:09pm

nudger wrote: »

Increase your house security, have pride in what you have worked hard for and protect it, if not just leave the keys in the ignition.

I happily spend money to make my family and home safe, sure insurance will cover things but hiding in the corner is not the way to go.

Yeah but neither is being woken up and threatened with a knife/screwdriver for your car keys.

nudger · 28-02-2014 8:21pm

January wrote: »

Yeah but neither is being woken up and threatened with a knife/screwdriver for your car keys.

So you take steps to prevent this, have an alarm and use it, lock internal doors, leave a few lights on, make your walls higher if there is access from the back, security lights, talk to your neighbours, get a dog, change your habits going to work etc, have a plan just incase, might sound over the top but it's not.

Get something to beat a knife/screwdriver, always put on clothes/shoes before going to check out a noise.

franksm · 28-02-2014 8:30pm

nudger wrote: »

So you take steps to prevent this, have an alarm and use it, lock internal doors, leave a few lights on, make your walls higher if there is access from the back, security lights, talk to your neighbours, get a dog, change your habits going to work etc, have a plan just incase, might sound over the top but it's not.

Get something to beat a knife/screwdriver, always put on clothes/shoes before going to check out a noise.

Totally agree. If you're not going to look after your own stuff, you shouldn't expect anyone else to. Make it as difficult as possible for scumbags.

Chattastrophe! · 28-02-2014 8:31pm

nudger wrote: »

So you take steps to prevent this, have an alarm and use it, lock internal doors, leave a few lights on, make your walls higher if there is access from the back, security lights, talk to your neighbours, get a dog, change your habits going to work etc, have a plan just incase, might sound over the top but it's not.

Get something to beat a knife/screwdriver, always put on clothes/shoes before going to check out a noise.

Certainly.

But if all this fails, and someone does somehow manage to get into your house, I'd much rather have the keys sitting on the hall table, so they can grab the car and go, than have them tearing the house apart or waking us up to get them from us.

Common sense applies too. I'd have the keys sitting on the hall table, but they're in no way visible from the outside!

(As my car was stolen the other day, it's not like this is really relevant to me anymore anyways.

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 28-02-2014 8:32pm

I think a lot of these break ins are smash and grab style. They're not going to go rooting about upstairs for car keys and risk waking people up or being caught if they can just grab anything that's downstairs and move on to the next house.

CrazyRabbit · 28-02-2014 8:55pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I think a lot of these break ins are smash and grab style. They're not going to go rooting about upstairs for car keys and risk waking people up or being caught if they can just grab anything that's downstairs and move on to the next house.

You underestimate just how brazen they are, or how little they care about the risk of being caught.

December2012 · 28-02-2014 9:21pm

So you've two houses, same alarm etc. each has similar car, one has keys on hall table, the other had the keys in a place that can't be seen from outside - obviously the more visible is more likely to be robbed.

Chattastrophe! · 28-02-2014 9:33pm

December2012 wrote: »

So you've two houses, same alarm etc. each has similar car, one has keys on hall table, the other had the keys in a place that can't be seen from outside - obviously the more visible is more likely to be robbed.

If someone leaves their keys on the hall table when the hall table is visible from outside, that's just downright stupid.

athtrasna · 28-02-2014 9:57pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

If someone leaves their keys on the hall table when the hall table is visible from outside, that's just downright stupid.

I hang mine on a frame. Not visible from outside or through the letter box but easily identifiable in the hall.

It's not just knives and screwdrivers, there are a couple of posts in the depths of this thread which mention people waking up to find someone standing over them with a kettle of boiling water. Another poster said something about having something to beat knives and screwdrivers...that might be brave but not wise, but you can't defend against water at close to 100 degrees Celsius.

Chattastrophe! · 01-03-2014 4:30pm

athtrasna wrote: »

It's not just knives and screwdrivers, there are a couple of posts in the depths of this thread which mention people waking up to find someone standing over them with a kettle of boiling water. Another poster said something about having something to beat knives and screwdrivers...that might be brave but not wise, but you can't defend against water at close to 100 degrees Celsius.

Exactly. It mightn't be common, but it has happened.

We have a newborn baby in a moses basket in our bedroom. They can take whatever they want from downstairs, and I would be happy to leave my keys out so that the car could be taken too, if it would stop some scumbag from landing into our bedroom with a knife, screwdriver, boiling water, whatever, around the tiny baby.

wildlifeboy · 02-03-2014 12:50pm

athtrasna wrote: »

I hang mine on a frame. Not visible from outside or through the letter box but easily identifiable in the hall.

It's not just knives and screwdrivers, there are a couple of posts in the depths of this thread which mention people waking up to find someone standing over them with a kettle of boiling water. Another poster said something about having something to beat knives and screwdrivers...that might be brave but not wise, but you can't defend against water at close to 100 degrees Celsius.

I think a burglar who is willing to make me a cuppa is a nice sentiment.

horse7 · 02-03-2014 4:52pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

'Twas Stockton Green. And no sign of it yet.

Jesus that's just awful. :mad:

how did they manage to rob it?

Dravokivich · 03-03-2014 10:11am

horse7 wrote: »

how did they manage to rob it?

It was only a basic Yaris. Wouldn't expect it'll take much more than shoving something against the catch for the lock.

horse7 · 04-03-2014 2:57pm

i thought they had immoblisers.

Chattastrophe! · 05-03-2014 4:08pm

horse7 wrote: »

i thought they had immoblisers.

It's a '04 one, would that have an immobiliser?

It was definitely locked, and they don't have the key, as I still have it.

For my own peace of mind, I drove and walked around every road and estate and carpark around Castleknock - it's definitely not just parked somewhere else.

And it's definitely not been towed by council or Gardaí, I've checked.

canihave · 06-03-2014 10:56am

The 2004 Yaris do have an immobiliser. I also live in Dublin 15 & 2 years ago we had a Yaris Van taken from outside our house. Our mechanic reakoned it couldnt have been hot wired as had an immobilisser. We have never heard anything on it since. You would need to keep everything in your pocket. Very annoying

Dravokivich · 06-03-2014 5:50pm

Well, it only had a basic key. Nothing for an immobiliser to challenge / accept a validation with.

Yours must have been an optional extra.

horse7 · 06-03-2014 9:19pm

my bog standard 01 yaris has one, see
Immobilisers have been mandatory in all new cars sold in Germany since 1 January 1998, in the United Kingdom since 1 October 1998, in Finland since 1998, in Australia since 2001 and in Canada since 2007. Early models used a static code in the ignition key (or key fob) which was recognised by an RFID loop around the lock barrel and checked against the vehicle's engine control unit (ECU) for a match. If the code is unrecognised, the ECU will not allow fuel to flow and ignition to take place. Later models use rolling codes or advanced cryptography to defeat copying of the code from the key or ECU.
The microcircuit inside the key is activated by a small electromagnetic field which induces current to flow inside the key body, which in turn broadcasts a unique binary code which is read by the automobile's ECU. When the ECU determines that the coded key is both current and valid, the ECU activates the fuel-injection sequence.

January · 06-03-2014 9:24pm

Oh jesus does it matter? The car was robbed, whether it had an immobilser or not. They've already said it's not with the Garda or council impound.

Chattastrophe! · 06-03-2014 9:40pm

The guards said that cars are often put on trucks and driven away these days anyways by the f*ckers, rather than broken into. I guess because of the immobilisers and whatever else. They said it can be done in minutes. They reckon it's gone for parts, and seeing as it hasn't turned up after a week now, I don't think it's going to.

The thing is, there were workmen installing water meters on the same street at the time (but further down) and didn't see a thing! The guy I was talking to on the day even drove around the couple of blocks in the area, and nothing. I rang the water meter people (again) yesterday, just in case they'd know anything, but no.

nikpmup · 07-03-2014 12:25am

My car was recovered after ten days and my boyfriends was recovered after about three weeks, so it may turn up yet Chattastrophe. Regarding leaving keys downstairs - absolutely. They can take my car, I will not have a scumbag come up the stairs to threaten me. I take reasonable precautions, door locked, alarm on etc, but I refuse to live my life in fear, double and triple checking security. It's just stuff, and it's replaceable. My aunt woke up to a scumbag with a screwdriver to her throat once - no thanks.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-03-2014 1:29am

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here and ultimately it's down to whatever makes you feel safer but most of you seem to be operating under the impression that thieves break into your house to steal your car? Obviously I can't speak for these scumbags but I would have thought they were breaking into your house to get whatever they could get their hands on, if your keys are lying on the hall table they'll take them. Like I said though, whatever helps you sleep at night.

horse7 · 08-03-2014 1:30pm

do u want to put the reg up on boards or pm me to keep a look out 4 the car?

Chattastrophe! · 08-03-2014 8:16pm

horse7 wrote: »

do u want to put the reg up on boards or pm me to keep a look out 4 the car?

Think himself put it up a few posts back ... its a silver Yaris, 04SO209. Thanks.

horse7 · 08-03-2014 10:05pm

will stick a post it on my windscreen with ur reg,cheers.

bigblackmug · 09-03-2014 12:36pm

That registration number belongs to a blue Yaris, not silver. source: motorcheck.ie

Dravokivich · 09-03-2014 12:50pm

bigblackmug wrote: »

That registration number belongs to a blue Yaris, not silver. source: motorcheck.ie

Its a very light blue, which can look silvery.

Chattastrophe! · 09-03-2014 3:18pm

This is the colour

http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Toyota-Yaris-TERRA-M-C-5DR-51/713243725915570

It's blue according to the log book alright, I always thought it looked silver rather than blue though ... maybe it just wasn't washed very often!!

horse7 · 09-03-2014 3:26pm

I am familiar with the colour,i had a micra with similiar.

eddie · 12-03-2014 8:20pm

Elderly lady mugged and dragged across ground this evening approx. 6:00 by two scum in hoodies with scarfs around their face.. tried it on another lady a few minutes earlier just at entrance to coolmine woods from snugboro road. They ran off before anyone could get to them.

21-03-2014 1:28pm

So a mate of mine had his house broken into the other day at 2pm. The people in question broke in the front door within 5 seconds. The funny thing was he was watching them as they had called before and when he answered the door they offered to sell him towels or clean his gutters. This time he pretended he was not in when suddenly the started hammering down his door. He grabbed a crow bar and chased them off. Gardai were called and a case pending.

Not only that but he got a name from a neighbor and address. (wont post here for legal reasons) They are living in Dublin 15.

What to look for.

Black hatchback parked close by.
Blonde woman on the phone in the car.
Normally has kids with her.
The a guy or guys will knock at a number of doors at once
If no answer they will give the door a kick to see if alarmed
If no alarm they will have the door open within 5 seconds
If you do answer they will will be quick thinking, and offer to sell you something or clean something cut something.

robbie000 · 21-03-2014 1:38pm

what estate did this happen in, you might want to post this in the neighbourhood watch section.

21-03-2014 2:10pm

I didnt even know there was a neighborhood watch section. I dont want to give too many details away protecting his privacy. A thing i forgot to mention was double / treble up on your locks as it literally took them 5 seconds to get in the front door breaking the chub.

robbie000 · 21-03-2014 3:15pm

I just asked location as Dublin 15 is a huge area be more beneficial to give an idea of the area like roselawn, clonsilla, ongar, corduff, blanchardstown village etc no one will tell were the person lives from getting information like that.

Also was it an old hall door the wooden type with just one lock as these could be easily knocked in wouldnt think the more modern PVC type doors would be gone through in 5 seconds.

jippo nolan · 21-03-2014 3:46pm

robbie000 wrote: »

I just asked location as Dublin 15 is a huge area be more beneficial to give an idea of the area like roselawn, clonsilla, ongar, corduff, blanchardstown village etc no one will tell were the person lives from getting information like that.

Also was it an old hall door the wooden type with just one lock as these could be easily knocked in wouldnt think the more modern PVC type doors would be gone through in 5 seconds.

They would, mine was done two years ago.
Unless the door is locked, engaging the internal locking mechanisms,
They slip a hard piece of plastic at the rocker and slip the door open.
Never heard a thing!

robbie000 · 21-03-2014 4:13pm

jippo nolan wrote: »

They would, mine was done two years ago.
Unless the door is locked, engaging the internal locking mechanisms,
They slip a hard piece of plastic at the rocker and slip the door open.
Never heard a thing!

My point is still correct if you locked your door they wouldnt have gotten in or lifted it in a few seconds. I would not stay in my house anytime without locking my front door so maybe thats a lesson to everyone to lock there front door when at home.

21-03-2014 5:56pm

jippo nolan wrote: »

They would, mine was done two years ago.
Unless the door is locked, engaging the internal locking mechanisms,
They slip a hard piece of plastic at the rocker and slip the door open.
Never heard a thing!

This was done in Blanchardstown, The way it was broken in was a tool forced in against the chub lock , hit 3 times and tore the chub lock right out of the wood.

horse7 · 23-03-2014 8:26pm

Break-ins on the up in the stockton/auburn ave area. House done on friday evening, 8 to 9pm.

altor · 24-03-2014 1:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I didnt even know there was a neighborhood watch section. I dont want to give too many details away protecting his privacy. A thing i forgot to mention was double / treble up on your locks as it literally took them 5 seconds to get in the front door breaking the chub.

Another secure option is to protect the barrel in any door. Older euro barrels should be replaced with antisnap/antibump locks. It takes the blink of an eye to break the euro barrels to gain entry. The multipoint locking system is no good once the barrel is gone.

Caliden · 24-03-2014 3:49pm

Recently had to call a locksmith as I'd locked myself out of the apartment. He advised me to get the locks changed as it took him all of 15 seconds to open the door. Also advised getting a second lock installed for safety.

I would hazard a guess that 90% of the surrounding apartments have the same door lock and wouldn't take much effort to break in.
Don't know the brand of lock that I have but it's the one where you can easily lock it from the inside without the key.

Batholemow Cubbins · 01-04-2014 3:11pm

Hi people of Dublin 15, quick update on a break-in recently in the area (Clonsilla) last week, happened to my friend.

Burglars came in through back kitchen door, having initially tried to gain entry through the PVC window but couldn't remove pane of glass from the windowframe. The bottom half of the door lock was taken off with a pliers, then the lock snapped and the door opened.

Burglar took the broken part of the door & lock with them to prevent fingerprints being taken, very professional. House alarm not switched on :cool:, so family asleep upstairs heard nothing.

Car keys for family saloon car found in handbag in kitchen and car taken from driveway, also some cash taken from purse but nothing else. Gardai called the following morning and place dusted for fingerprints. My friend was told that car could be in the local area until heat died down, and maybe to go look for it and if found to call them immediately.

Friend went looking for car, found within an hour in a communal car park for apartments/town houses in Ongar, I would say less than two miles from where it was stolen. :rolleyes:

Gardai called and they went and checked it out, said that the family were "known" to them, but couldn't enter the house in this case as they had no evidence of any wrongdoing.

Forensics came down and got fingerprints from the car and owners drove the car away, now waiting to see what happens. If anyone wants further info they can PM me. Hope this helps. Gardai said that had alarm been on it would have gone off and they would have run away, message is - PUT YOUR HOUSE ALARM ON EVERY NIGHT!

brightkane · 02-04-2014 9:50am

Hi all, friends car was stolen from outside his apartment in waterville last night.
09D black BMW 520d M Sport.
Glass on ground found outside, they didnt enter to take the keys.

If people can check their underground/car parks it would be much appreciated.

chucknorris · 02-04-2014 10:09am

brightkane wrote: »

Hi all, friends car was stolen from outside his apartment in waterville last night.
09D black BMW 520d M Sport.
Glass on ground found outside, they didnt enter to take the keys.

If people can check their underground/car parks it would be much appreciated.

Perhaps it was towed away?

brightkane · 02-04-2014 10:09am

yeah most probably

chucknorris · 02-04-2014 12:13pm

brightkane wrote: »

yeah most probably

Robbed to order so. Scum!

athtrasna · 02-04-2014 1:12pm

brightkane wrote: »

Hi all, friends car was stolen from outside his apartment in waterville last night.
09D black BMW 520d M Sport.
Glass on ground found outside, they didnt enter to take the keys.

If people can check their underground/car parks it would be much appreciated.

Sorry to hear that. I live in Waterville and it's been very quiet on the trouble front lately, not good to hear that scumbags are hanging around. You mightn't want to mention the cluster name but if you do it would be good to know.

Arciphel · 02-04-2014 1:28pm

brightkane wrote: »

Hi all, friends car was stolen from outside his apartment in waterville last night.
09D black BMW 520d M Sport.
Glass on ground found outside, they didnt enter to take the keys.

If people can check their underground/car parks it would be much appreciated.

Can you give us the reg?

chucknorris · 02-04-2014 1:56pm

Arciphel wrote: »

Can you give us the reg?

I could post it up on 'Blanchardstown' past and present. it has 3500 Blanchies following on FB.

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