Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

Psygnosis · 21-02-2012 7:37pm #1

Article below
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/25879-eircom-fibre-rollout/

So we know they have started already in wexford and parts of south dublin.

Would anyone have a schedule of when the rollout and what towns are set to go live on dates.
How exactly are they doing it setting up small cabinets outsides people estated where I presume fibre will go to from the main exchange. These cabinets will then provide the internet to the house over the existing copper is this correct.

MOD BK: Updated 29/08/2014 Now it is 1.6 million premises by 2016:
http://pressroom.eircom.net/press_releases/article/eircom_Full_Year_and_Fourth_Quarter_Results_To_30_June_2014_/

bealtine · 22-02-2012 12:41am

Psygnosis wrote: »

Would anyone have a schedule of when the rollout and what towns are set to go live on dates.
How exactly are they doing it setting up small cabinets outsides people estated where I presume fibre will go to from the main exchange. These cabinets will then provide the internet to the house over the existing copper is this correct.

There is a list of the 10 exchanges to be upgraded on the eircom wholesale website.
Basically they change the cable from your local green cabinet back to the exchange with a fibre, copper runs from the cabinet to your house. This is known as FTTC.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012 2:03am

In the UK the ratio between homes with fibre an homes with fibre to the box at the bottom of the road is around 1 in 10...with the 10 getting the slower tech.

eircom will have upgraded around 15 out of their 1200 exchanges by the end of 2012 and in so doing they will still miss people by their own admission.

Most of those who will be upgraded will have fibre near the house, not in it.

Solair · 22-02-2012 2:05am

Well, with the way the eircom debt mountain is, a better resourced company might be running the show by 2015.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012 2:13am

eircom are Janus, telling their senior bondholders they will get their money back (they won't) while telling their customers that proper broadband is coming soon ( it ain't)

UPC will destroy them by end 2014 and UPC are, frankly, crap.

long_b · 22-02-2012 7:58am

I take it this will only benefit those who can currently get a decent speed on their copper lines ?

bealtine · 22-02-2012 9:51am

long_b wrote: »

I take it this will only benefit those who can currently get a decent speed on their copper lines ?

Not really, as the length of the line will now be only from the local cabinet to your house, the cabinet will be fed by fibre. The speed will be determined by your distance from the local cabinet.So if you live a long distance from the local cabinet you won't get full speed.

Ranicand · 22-02-2012 9:56am

bealtine wrote: »

Not really, as the length of the line will now be only from the local cabinet to your house, the cabinet will be fed by fibre. The speed will be determined by your distance from the local cabinet.So if you live a long distance from the local cabinet you won't get full speed.

UPC works in a similar way only the last bit is coaxial cable rather then copper?

If the backbone of Eircoms network was fiber it would be a vast improvement on what is there now.

Praetorian · 22-02-2012 11:47am

The 10-15 exchanges that people have mentioned, are these the already rolled out exchanges in south co dublin and wexford?

MrO · 22-02-2012 1:59pm

Psygnosis wrote: »

How exactly are they doing it

I'll bet that's a question most of the engineering staff in eircom are asking themselves - hard to 'reach' 1m homes when you haven't got a washer.

Unless of course by 'reach' you mean that fibre will be somewhere in the same postcode as your house. In which case I'm sure they'll hit the targets :-)

nilhg · 22-02-2012 3:03pm

Anyone have an idea of the sort of costs involved in doing this for Eircom per cab/exchange, assuming that no civils are involved because ducting is in situ already.

Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

iMuse · 22-02-2012 3:04pm

How close would you need to be to a cabinet to receive decent speeds like 25meg? My line can only handle about 3 meg at the minute so If I could get anywhere near 20 I would be delighted. I'm in 1 of towns listed in the phase 1 rollout and there's no UPC available.

lucernarian · 22-02-2012 3:13pm

There are quite a number of cabinets that are poorly placed and end up serving villages or areas which are nowhere near the cabinet itself. Rural towns and villages that might otherwise benefit from being connected to larger exchanges are going to lose out when the cabinet that serves them all is still 3km away.

iMuse · 22-02-2012 3:22pm

nilhg wrote: »

Anyone have an idea of the sort of costs involved in doing this for Eircom per cab/exchange, assuming that no civils are involved because ducting is in situ already.

Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

They announced they are spending 5 million on upgrading letterkenny but it depends how far they are going with the fibre. What does an eircom cabinet look like, how big is it?

Nothingbetter2d · 22-02-2012 3:53pm

Ranicand wrote: »

UPC works in a similar way only the last bit is coaxial cable rather then copper?

If the backbone of Eircoms network was fiber it would be a vast improvement on what is there now.

coaxial cable is still made from copper though.

arctan · 22-02-2012 6:12pm

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

coaxial cable is still made from copper though.

co-ax is an unbalanced cable though with much more bandwidth capacity and lower attenuation than twisted pair...

nilhg wrote: »

.

Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

i.e. you'll be less than a kilometer from the DSLAM (the DSLAM is currently in your exchange)

iMuse wrote: »

What does an eircom cabinet look like, how big is it?

bit of a crap shot

http://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.290065,-6.199379&spn=0.007209,0.021136&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.290132,-6.199446&panoid=kxsrKSDHZEEK-dW-g2mLDQ&cbp=12,253.34,,1,12.68

in around 2M long, 2 cubic meters I think it's volume is

arctan · 22-02-2012 6:31pm

Clonee, Mervue, Tallaght, Ballyboden, Douglas, Swords, Donabate, Dooradoyle, Letterkenny and Palmerstown are the next locations to be ran out ....

ducts going in around Tallaght & Ballyboden the last few weeks, Technicians being drafted in for the process, closing dates for applications is next week ...

Judging by how fast Sandyford and Priory Park were done, all going to plan with no snags, the majority of the Dublin locations could be up and running by the end of the summer the latest

10belowzero · 22-02-2012 8:15pm

On top of the 10 listed exch area's, Clonee, Mervue, Tallaght, Ballyboden, Douglas, Swords, Donabate, Dooradoyle, Letterkenny and Palmerstown .another 45 exch area's have been added - the area's being done have yet to be announced.
Clonee , Tallaght ,ballyboden ,Sword's ,Donabate and Letterkenny have started and will be up and running this summer.
I don't know about the country location's or palmerstown , but I beleive they have started ,planning etc etc all done.
I believe there will be a mix of FTTH + FTTC , across the area's , but will mainly be FTTC .
Techician's are being asked this week if the wish to transfer to the new fibre build team's , that are being set up across the country in the next month.
The cost is in the region of 300 million euro's and without doubt the staff side will deliver on or before time.

Alun · 22-02-2012 8:35pm

Sounds interesting. The amount of work involved for FTTC should be fairly small as others have pointed out. As long as there's room in the existing cabinets, as far as I can see it's little more than pulling the fibre along the already existing ducts owned by Eircom and relocating the DSLAMs from the exchange to the cabinets. Not as much work as, for example, UPC had to do to broadband enable Bray which involved a lot of digging for new ducting plus renewal of a lot of their existing coax cable.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012 10:11pm

New cabinets will be needed. Alongside the existing Green ones or in place of them.

arctan · 22-02-2012 10:32pm

-new cabs needed
-ESB supply
-subducting for fibre

some additional new cabs needed in the Dublin area (i.e. trenching in new cables)

then whatever civils are needed thereafter (wall/jointbox/groundwork rebuilds) ....

that's all in ideal circumstances.... then you have stuff like collapsed or full ducts, complaints from various sources etc... which all hold up the contractors

Ben D Bus · 22-02-2012 10:36pm

There was work going on at the cabinet outside my flat in Ballyfermot (Palmerstown exchange) this morning. Maybe unrelated. Not that it matters for the foreseeable. Moved to UPC years ago.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012 10:38pm

arctan wrote: »

in around 2M long, 2 cubic meters I think it's volume is

Yep, that is one. It can do 192 lines max I think.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012 11:07pm

Eircoms top 67 Exchanges serve over 1m lines between them and have 10,000 lines each. Minimum.

If your exchange is not on this list then you may consider an upgrade is somewhat unlikely to say the least.

TLH Tallaght
CRA Crown Alley
BDT Blanchardstown
DBN Dolphins Barn
BBH Beggars Bush
NMN North Main
MER Merrion
BLP Belcamp
PRP Priory Park
BLB Ballyboden
DLA Dunlaoghaire
SRD Swords
WAL Walkinstown
LMK Roches Street
QKR Quaker Road
FNG Finglas
MVW Mervue
DBC Drogheda
RMS Rathmines
PAL Palmerstown
DDK Dundalk
TRE Terenure
DDM Dundrum
KNY Kilkenny
SAN Santry
WTD Waterford Central
BRI Bray
NUT Nutley
ENS Ennis
CHF Churchfield
CAB Cabra
CRW Carlow
SRL Summerhill
WHI Whitehall
NAS Naas
ROC Rochestown
LKY Letterkenny
TWV Tralee
MGR Mullingar
SLA Shantalla
WRD Wellington Road
DGS Douglas
CKC Cork Central
AUV Navan
STN Sutton
DNU Droichead Nua ( Newbridge)
DYX Dennehys Cross
CLK Coolock
CLM Clonmel
LKD Dooradoyle
CRL Crumlin
CBR Castlebar
CLT Clontarf
CLD Nangor Road
BNC Ballincollig
LCN Lucan Ballydowd
SKL Shankill
PHB Phibsboro
BRN Balbriggan
CHD Caherdavin
PGS Portlaoise
TYC Tycor
SHP Ship Street
GAL Galway
KLN Killarney
SNH Sandyford Aeh

ozmo · 22-02-2012 11:53pm

arctan wrote: »

Clonee, Mervue, Tallaght, Ballyboden, Douglas, Swords, Donabate, Dooradoyle, Letterkenny and Palmerstown are the next locations to be ran out ....

ducts going in around Tallaght & Ballyboden the last few weeks, Technicians being drafted in for the process, closing dates for applications is next week ...

Judging by how fast Sandyford and Priory Park were done, all going to plan with no snags, the majority of the Dublin locations could be up and running by the end of the summer the latest

What kind of speeds would you get from this, without having fibre to the door? Will it approach UPC speeds?

Cantona's Collars · 23-02-2012 12:10am

ozmo wrote: »

What kind of speeds would you get from this, without having fibre to the door? Will it approach UPC speeds?

Here in Wexford speeds are 150Mbs in many areas and 50Mbs in others.Mate of mine was doing some work for Eircom and said takeup was low from the public in Wexford.They see €20 a month on something that barely works (3g dongles) as better value than superfast fibre optic broadband:rolleyes:

http://www.fibrepilot.ie/locations#wexford

https://www.magnet.ie/fibre/

starviewadams · 23-02-2012 12:42am

Good explanation of how FTTC/FTTH works.

http://www.leyingitout.co.uk/2010/01/what-is-fttc-and-how-does-it-work/

arctan · 23-02-2012 1:41am

ozmo wrote: »

What kind of speeds would you get from this, without having fibre to the door? Will it approach UPC speeds?

can't comment on the FTTH because there has been very little uptake, hence feedback about it .... but circa the 100 Mb/s wouldn't be far off ...

FTTC ... majority of places it'll be rolled out first, most premises will be less than a KM from the cab .... VDSL2+ starts losing a lot of signal after 1KM... within that KM speeds from circa 25 to 30 minimum, right up to 45 are the norm ...

again.. depending on your line conditions from the cab to your house too ...

10 Megs has been thrown around as the absolute minimum .... sounds ****e, but this is to people who might not have been able to access broadband at all due to line length or conditions ...

big plus also, over the likes of UPC is, when you're gettin your 25 or 30 or whatever, that's what you are getting, you woun't be contending with the rest of your estate, no fluctuating or drop off of speed during peak times, it's all your datastream...

tested a 25 Meg UPC line earlier and was only getting 12 on it, which fluctuates a lot .... again they'll have some similar problems as Eircom, long line lengths, bad lines etc... but once anyone has more than 6 - 8 Megs the majority seem happy with speeds cos it'll download your everyday stuff fairly sharpish unless you're using the likes of Netflix etc...

Freddie59 · 23-02-2012 10:20am

arctan wrote: »

tested a 25 Meg UPC line earlier and was only getting 12 on it, which fluctuates a lot .... again they'll have some similar problems as Eircom, long line lengths, bad lines etc...

Someone pointed out earlier the difference between coax and twisted pair. Have a read of it. Completely different technology AFAIK.

Solair · 23-02-2012 1:06pm

I don't know about elsewhere, but a lot of Cork City areas seem to have had new cabinets put in in the last 10 years or so. There was a major tidy-up of their local network cabling in older parts of the city where it would have had a lot of overhead lines running back to exchanges in the past.

I would assume this might make life easier for them with a fibre rollout as the cables should be fairly structured and there was a lot of new ducting put in place relatively recently.

They eliminated a lot of the old overhead networks.

I think the same is true in a lot of parts of Dublin and I assume elsewhere too.

The list of exchanges there is pretty much all the pre-1970s major urban ones. Outside of that list of large exchanges, there are a lot or urban ones that are <10,000K lines, particularly in newer areas! These are scattered around Cork and Dublin etc. The technology radically changed in the 1980s and more so in the 1990s and 00s that allowed for small exchanges (RSUs) to be put in in newly developed areas. It was often more cost effective and practical than extending existing exchanges and kept the line lengths more reasonable.

There are plenty of <10,000K exchanges that would be perfectly suitable for fibre-to-home rollout too. Any urban area really should be fine. Even small towns are suitable (if there's sufficient fibre to the exchange and ducts and cabinets in the urban area)

The major ones listed there were mostly originally large urban exchanges that would have started out as Step-By-Step or Crossbar switches and were subsequently switched over to digital in the 1980s/90s. Hence, they have huge numbers of incoming lines.
Many of these are pretty vast!

arctan · 23-02-2012 2:21pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

Someone pointed out earlier the difference between coax and twisted pair. Have a read of it. Completely different technology AFAIK.

different technologies along it ... the cables are the medium

UPC still have high contention on the lines, it's fine for the moment but in a few years without more speed upgrades you'll see drop offs and crap speeds

Sponge Bob · 23-02-2012 3:01pm

Some people already have crap UPC speeds from contention and just wait till 4G LTE phones come on the market next year and cause interference within the spectrum bandplan for 800mhz-1ghz UPC Coax

iMuse · 23-02-2012 10:15pm

This box is half a mile from my house and Ive seen eircom working at it before. Is it a Cabinet?

Solair · 23-02-2012 11:00pm

Yeah, that's a cabinet, but it could actually be for voice only, or it could be a simple cable junction box.

jimmad · 24-02-2012 12:21am

That box is less than 50 metres from my house, it used to be a bigger green one, there is another green box around 300 metres closer to the town.
More than likely they'll put the dslam there as powers already at hand.

Solair · 24-02-2012 2:56am

That's also most likely a junction box. The ESB box near by is probably for public lighting.

They can site remote-concentrators in boxes like that, but they're usually just for voice! In some cases, they mange to rollout a local voice exchange facility in a box like that and provide no DSL at all! lol

lucernarian · 24-02-2012 3:11am

Solair wrote: »

That's also most likely a junction box. The ESB box near by is probably for public lighting.

They can site remote-concentrators in boxes like that, but they're usually just for voice! In some cases, they mange to rollout a local voice exchange facility in a box like that and provide no DSL at all! lol

Eircom's incompetence in this regard in the mid 2000s was remarkable. Some of these mistakes, like The Naul's exchange, have only been corrected over the last few months.

10belowzero · 24-02-2012 10:11am

The case shown in jimmad's photo is a remote telemetry unit owned by the local council and is used for monitoring / controlling main's water pressure for an area's water provision.
The case in iMuse's photo's are the new c.c.p's now being used by eircom on new installation's and for maintenance repacment's of older cabnet's, they carry voice , b/band ,carrier's ,cable + pressure monitoring equip , data circuit's etc.
I have to say the company seem to be going all out to get the fibre build team's up and running asap , got about 12 text's yesterday, on top of email's ,as well as application's being delivered personally as well as being posted to our home's and closing date for application's is next wensday.
At this pace , these team's will be up and running and in the field by early may ,still no word of the actual exch area's to be done.

Freddie59 · 24-02-2012 2:02pm

arctan wrote: »

different technologies along it ... the cables are the medium

The coax is far superior to twisted pair. Apparently.

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=683070&seqNum=2

arctan · 24-02-2012 6:02pm

no apparents about it, co-ax can handle much more bandwidth with less attenuation, compared to twisted pair, as I pointed out earlier

Solair · 24-02-2012 7:23pm

Coaxial cable networks have always been used for high-bandwidth applications. Cable television, for example, is pretty huge bandwidth.

Twisted pair cables as used in telephone systems were originally specified only to carry narrow-band voice and data signals, and primarily just voice.

If eircom are bringing fibre right into the house, then they can provide really fast services that are completely competitive with UPC's technology.

However, if they're just going fibre-to-cabinet and then using VDSL technology over regular phone wiring to your house, they will only be able to just about compete with current generation cable technology.

EuroDOCSIS 3.0 used over a hybrid coax-fibre network like UPC's can potentially go a LOT faster than 100mbit/s

EuroDOCSIS 3.0 can be configured to handle over 400mbit/s down and well over 120mbit/s up, and that's without installing new cabling into houses.

UPC field-tested 1.3Gbit/s over a conventional cable network in Vienna recently!

http://dark-fiber.tmcnet.com/topics/dark-fiber/articles/217633-upc-austria-achieves-13-gigabits-speed-with-help.htm

So, if eircom doesn't go to really full-scale fibre to the home, they just face being wiped out by UPC all over again.

Also, UPC is a BIG player in this technology. It's not buying stuff off-the-shelf. It's one of the largest cable operators in the world and it has serious technology at it's disposal and actually drives R&D in the area.

eircom on the other hand is one of Europe's smallest national telcos and basically has to buy off-the-shelf.

So, without really proper investment, eircom's just going to face always being inferior to cable alternatives.

Freddie59 · 25-02-2012 1:44pm

Solair wrote: »

UPC field-tested 1.3Gbit/s over a conventional cable network in Vienna recently!

http://dark-fiber.tmcnet.com/topics/dark-fiber/articles/217633-upc-austria-achieves-13-gigabits-speed-with-help.htm

:eek::eek:

iMuse · 25-02-2012 4:49pm

Letterkenny is set to benefit from a 5 million euro investment in a fibre rollout programme that will help enhance broadband technology in the town.

This week, Eircom officials confirmed progress in the investment with thirteen areas throughout the town to be included in Phase 1 of the national initiative.

“We are very committed to the Letterkenny area and to the county,” Eircom’s Head of Communications, Paul Bradley, told members of the local Town Council at their meeting on Monday night.

By the end of the summer, Eircom hope to have delivered broadband with speeds of up to 40-50Mbps to customers.

A total investment of 100 million euro in the country includes an investment of between 4 to 5 million euro to be spent in Letterkenny.

Areas earmarked in the programme include Mountain Top, Glencar Scotch, Manor View, Town Centre, Ballymacool, Rahan, Lismonaghan, Lurgybrack, Glebe, Woodland, Meadowhill, Lisnenan, and Knocknamona.

Eircom is in discussions with industry to secure agreement on the rollout programme.

The company employs a total of 128 in Donegal with seventy-six of those based in Letterkenny, members were told.

Source

They seem to be trying to cover most areas of the town anyway which is good news

Sponge Bob · 26-02-2012 1:07am

Course the problen with this plan is that they are not prepared to say what they will do in the Exchange AREA. (Give it around 15-20 secs to load).

In geographic terms OVER Half the Letterkenny Exchange AREA will NOT be upgraded to VDSL...but will they guarantee those non VDSL areas an adequate ADSL2+ service instead....eg by moving ADSL2+ service launch to the edge of teh town and thereby much nearer the rural hinterland. ???

iMuse wrote: »

They seem to be trying to cover most areas of the town anyway which is good news

arctan · 26-02-2012 3:43pm

geographical sense shouldn't really be a bother, once it hits the main population areas ....

38 CCP's in Letterkenny, if they were all done, I can see very few people being left out of having VDSL ... again cable length and condition would be a big problem

D'Peoples Voice · 26-02-2012 8:34pm

arctan wrote: »

UPC still have high contention on the lines, it's fine for the moment but in a few years without more speed upgrades you'll see drop offs and crap speeds

this problem might not be as bad as feared.
Can we assume that while people might go mad on torrents
for the first few months after broadband installation,
their behaviour reverts back to just using broadband for social media/email/VOIP purposes, in the main.
In which case, I would expect the vast majority of people to be happy with relatively low speeds - which should keep the contention low, and the ongoing provision cost low from UPC's point of view.

At the expense of providing broadband of 20Mbs in ALL major towns and cities, are Eircom mad to be looking at concentrating their investment into providing high speeds 100 Mbs plus, that for most houses, will go under-utilised.
I know from looking at my neighbours, I'd say fewer than maybe 20% would have a genuine long term need for broadband over 20Mbs. With low take up, others might be faced with having to subsidise this project through higher prices across the board. I just hope that Eircom have analysed the demographics of these areas, and identified genuine pent-up demand. :rolleyes:

arctan · 27-02-2012 12:27am

yeah but from an actual data point of view, that 100Mb eircom link will be fairly utilised when triple play is rolled out ...

the likes of netflix and remote files sites are the way foreward which will both push up both upsteam and downstream utilisation ..

your view is nearly the same as that of net providers in the early 2000's thinking a max of 56kbps is gonna be loads for the next few years

lucernarian · 27-02-2012 1:09am

arctan wrote: »

geographical sense shouldn't really be a bother, once it hits the main population areas ....

38 CCP's in Letterkenny, if they were all done, I can see very few people being left out of having VDSL ... again cable length and condition would be a big problem

What happens when you have a place like Mountain Top, 3 km outside Letterkenny yet might not have a cabinet serving it until you reach the edge of the town? (This is a hypothetical situation and Mountain Top probably has a cabinet) The N56 has ducting running the whole way along but will eircom place VDSL equipment where the people actually live or will they take the lazy option and enable a cabinet which only serves people over 1km away?? This is a regular scenario in regional towns.

In theory, any location where ducting exists with fibre and power in place would be a good spot for these VDSL cabinets. All that would be needed is about a hundred or so lines of a mile length or less to be connected to the cabinet. There's no point just enabling all 38 cabinets if they're not close to new housing estates on the outskirts of towns etc.

Also, I don't think 56k was ever regarded as an adequate solution from like the mid 90s onwards. Heck, the simpsons took the mickey out of dialup. There were killer apps that meant people clearly benefited from Mbps speeds. Past 20 mbps download speeds, upload speeds become relatively more important. Cloud applications rely on this and I'm not sure something like 100Mb/8Mb would be as welcome as 20Mb/20Mb. VDSL is not so useful at providing that as GPON fibre is.

bk · 27-02-2012 1:02pm

Yup, I believe upload speed is becoming increasingly important.

Personally I'm happy enough on 10mb/s download, but would love more then 600kb/s upload. It is painful how long it takes to upload pictures and video.

What is the upload speed on Eircoms new VDSL2+ service?

Solair · 27-02-2012 4:44pm

Considering that not much more than a decade ago, eircom seemed to think there was no demand for broadband, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting around for them. If they'd had their way we'd all be on time, and dial up and ISDN in 2012!

Eircom doesn't really have a tracking record of being visionary or market leading. It's usually been the technology laggard.

bealtine · 27-02-2012 4:51pm

Solair wrote: »

Considering that not much more than a decade ago, eircom seemed to think there was no demand for broadband, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting around for them. If they'd had their way we'd all be on time, and dial up and ISDN in 2012!

Eircom doesn't really have a tracking record of being visionary or market leading. It's usually been the technology laggard.

In this limited case competition has stung eircom into action,UPC have been eating their lunch (and dinner too) with the UPC "fibre" rollout so eircom have to enable areas outside the main urban areas, Letterkenny and Wexford, areas not targeted by UPC.

Of course eircom will massively overcharge for the fibre products and then proclaim there to be no takeup...

Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

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