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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    A few things have gone down in price too. I am surprised they do not have their own brands of stuff, like wetherspoons vodka, or give them normal sounding brand names like some supermarkets do with some own brand stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭sozbox


    Very disappointed with the increases on the Irish craft bottles and the draft stouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    You do know that going to the pub isn't a human right?

    I do, which is why I said option.

    You even highlighted that very part.

    Anyway pub prices are too high imo.

    People end up drinking at home instead of socialising like they used to.

    Weatherspoons arriving on our shores with their historically low UK prices could have brought a new wave of competitive pricing all round but alas it's not to be.

    Still not bad price wise as I said, in particular for the likes of the craft beer, but hardly going to rock the Irish pub trade now unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Blut2


    rubadub wrote: »
    A few things have gone down in price too. I am surprised they do not have their own brands of stuff, like wetherspoons vodka, or give them normal sounding brand names like some supermarkets do with some own brand stuff.

    What's gone down in price? I can't see anything across the booze selection that's gone down.

    I think they're getting dangerously close to the 4eur a pint/drink price with some of the new increases. I think once they hit that they'll lose customers going for the 'cheapness' factor as its not too far off a regular pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    That is a shame. My cheap Saturday afternoons looks to be over.

    i was out in The 40ft in DL on Saturday night and the place was heaving. It will be interesting to see what impact if any the increases have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Are people really comparing country prices with Dublin prices, in Dublin 15(incl Clonee) there are around 10 pubs for a population of about 120,000, compare that ratio to any town / city down the country.

    The cheapest pint of lager in the 4 pubs I am within 20 brisk walking distance to is about €4.80. The others are €5 and over. I am guessing the cheapest Beamish in any is about €4.40. €1 saving isnt bad by any standard


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭hawkhead


    Beamish is €3.80 in my local


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Just passed by Weatherspoons in Blanch and it was packed. Absolutely packed.

    Good weather plus decent prices getting the trade it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Anyone ever hear the old saying... 'Get a name of an early riser and you can sleep til dinnertime'

    I'd say that was witherspoons plan all along. Didn't Lidl so something similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08



    Weatherspoons arriving on our shores with their historically low UK prices could have brought a new wave of competitive pricing all round but alas it's not to be.

    €3.50 = £2.48 at todays prices. €2.50 = £1.77. I reckon the high amount of stock they source from the UK is a big factor in this price rise.
    Blut2 wrote: »
    What's gone down in price? I can't see anything across the booze selection that's gone down.

    Some food items, Burger+drink has dropped 20c


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    €3.50 = £2.48 at todays prices. €2.50 = £1.77. I reckon the high amount of stock they source from the UK is a big factor in this price 0c

    Real ale is still 2.50, the like of Ghostship are beer that don't hang around to long in storage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    I popped in last night 2.50 for a pint of Adnams Ghost-ship in very good condition. There is a good selection of Irish craft beer from 8 degrees, Bru and McGraths. This is possibly one if the largest selection of Irish craft beer in the are, but why did it take an English pup chain for this to happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Out of interest, has anybody fired a mail across to them inquiring into the recent (significant) price hikes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    There are 66cl bottles for 3.95, that's great value, a 33cl equivalent for 2 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    oblivious wrote: »
    There is a good selection of Irish craft beer from 8 degrees, Bru and McGraths. This is possibly one if the largest selection of Irish craft beer in the are, but why did it take an English pup chain for this to happen?

    I don't think it did. Their arrival coincided with lots of pubs selling craft beer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    It didn't really. Many regular pubs in the area still have a limited enough selection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Effects wrote: »
    I don't think it did. Their arrival coincided with lots of pubs selling craft beer.

    Not in my area, as the posted intended. Also those pubs that do there a a number that are choosing Cute Hoor, Hop house and fran well (Molsen) are featuring a good bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I thought he meant they kicked off the craft beer in pubs trend. Maybe the other pubs will catch in time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Effects wrote: »
    I thought he meant they kicked off the craft beer in pubs trend. Maybe the other pubs will catch in time?

    Well that's one thing like like about spoons been here, 1) price pressure 2) other options for consumers.
    Effects wrote: »
    Maybe the other pubs will catch in time?

    Maybe, but one opened in the village the end of last summer a lot of money was pumped in the place. The "craft" options where cute hoor and hops house 13 because that's what Diageo/Heineken offed. Kind of summed up the attitude


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Anyone been to Blackrock or DL to see if the prices have risen there yet? Was gonna head to one of them on Saturday before going to Marlay Park but the rises have made me rethink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    SantryRed wrote: »
    Anyone been to Blackrock or DL to see if the prices have risen there yet?

    it will probably be reported on their facebook pages first, by punters, I doubt they will be shouting about it. No reports yet.

    https://www.facebook.com/thefortyfoot

    https://www.facebook.com/TheThreeTunTavern


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Oblivious, are you suggesting that Cute Hoor and HH13 are Craft Beers? your post definitely suggests you are suggesting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Oblivious, are you suggesting that Cute Hoor and HH13 are Craft Beers?
    Here we go again... What is your definition of craft beer? its not like its some scientific term set in stone, maybe there are legal definitions in some countries, there will be loads of variants.

    Here is one I found for the US
    The Brewers Association (B.A.) merely requires that a brewery produce fewer than six million barrels a year to qualify as “craft.” That’s 1.98 billion bottles, a volume achieved only by the world’s largest international mega-conglomerate brewers. So, size clearly isn’t everything.

    even if there is too much cute hoor brewed I can understand why people would call it craft beer, or "craft-like beer" like how denny might have homestyle ham or butchers ham or similar terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Oblivious, are you suggesting that Cute Hoor and HH13 are Craft Beers? your post definitely suggests you are suggesting it.

    mmmh no, its was a response I got to a new/refurnished local when I asked what Irish craft they had. The pub just felt they need to "fill a space" and that what the marcos had. in short it summed up the pubs mentality.


    Any way craft is an amorphous term. Keep trying to define it just pays into the macros hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Ah, lads - can we stay on topic please.

    The whole argument issue of what is or is not a craft beer can be taken to another thread if needed.

    Thanks,

    tHB


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  • Registered Users Posts: 42 1800


    These huge price increases are very disappointing. Most places now have pubs with cheaper drinks than those offered here. I mean 4 euro for Tuborg is a bit of robbery, its usually anywhere between 3 - 3.50 in the majority of pubs.

    I guess this is their action plan to try and not attract certain clientele, hike the prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Its 4.8 % or 4.6% Tuborg, must be bringing it in from Carlberg in Northampton.
    I'd be surprised if these prices are uniform across the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Its 4.8 % or 4.6% Tuborg, must be bringing


    The carlsberg is uk alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Its 4.8 % or 4.6% Tuborg, must be bringing it in from Carlberg in Northampton.
    I'd be surprised if these prices are uniform across the country.

    It'd make a bit more sense if the prices were higher for booze in the new Blanch location alright. Keep food prices low, but booze prices high, to ensure a less rowdy crowd. Might be a wise precaution given the slightly rougher area than their previous locations.

    Has anyone been in the 40ft / TTT this week to see if the new menus have been applied there as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Blut2 wrote: »
    It'd make a bit more sense if the prices were higher for booze in the new Blanch location alright. Keep food prices low, but booze prices high, to ensure a less rowdy crowd. Might be a wise precaution given the slightly rougher area than their previous locations.

    Ffs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Blut2


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Ffs.

    Do you disagree with my statement? Blanchardstown is statistically a lower income, higher crime area than Blackrock. I thought I phrased that relatively tactfully in my post.

    Given Wetherspoon's stated desire to avoid developing a 'rough' reputation in Ireland I think it would make sense for them to have higher alcohol prices in areas with more potential for trouble. It'd pay for increased security, at the least, even if it didn't also have customer profiling benefits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    Seemingly the prices haven't changed in Dun Laoghaire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,223 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Maybe they're not expecting to shift as much food \ coffees \ breakfasts in the new locations so need to balance the books with higher prices on drinks?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    Seemingly the prices haven't changed in Dun Laoghaire.

    Yet.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I hit the €2.45 Bengali in the Forty Foot last night like it was going out of fashion.

    Jeebus but that place is badly managed. It wasn't by any means full and there seemed to be loads of staff milling about, but there was an hour wait for food and bar service was painfully slow; only Hobgoblin on cask and by 8pm they had almost run out of Curry Club curries. I'd have thought they'd have got their logistics nailed down after six months, but it always seems to be like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭dvdman1


    dun laoghaire seems to be the most badly run, i see young fellas packing crisps and bottles while there's loads of people standing waiting, another chap robbin from the till :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I hit the €2.45 Bengali in the Forty Foot last night like it was going out of fashion.

    Jeebus but that place is badly managed. It wasn't by any means full and there seemed to be loads of staff milling about, but there was an hour wait for food and bar service was painfully slow; only Hobgoblin on cask and by 8pm they had almost run out of Curry Club curries. I'd have thought they'd have got their logistics nailed down after six months, but it always seems to be like this.

    When I was there last month it was much the same. I ordered a curry, only to be told that they didn't have it, so I ordered something else instead. They came back to me several minutes later to tell me that they did have the one that I originally ordered and that it was the replacement that was, in fact, out of stock. When the food arrived they were extremely apologetic about the earlier mix up but the curry I actually received was neither of the two. :eek: Ultimately, it made little difference to me but it was really a comedy of errors.

    When friends arrived later the kitchen then shut down altogether due to some fault, only to spontaneously re-open 5 minutes later, albeit without anyone being informed.

    The beer was cheap though.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I assume the price was the reason all those guests kept going back to Fawlty Towers too. That, and no TripAdvisor in the 1970s...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    its not the most organized pub for sure, but that can be said of the vast majority of pubs in ireland that ive been to. The people didnt help either. Rather than use the bar, they all queued up in front of the till, which just seemed crazy to me.

    Aside from that though i think its a nice pub.

    -Fairly clean & i dont hate the styling.
    -great selection of drinks.
    -amazing prices.
    -awesome location.
    -security staff very good at keeping skumbags out. Saw them stop a lot of people, and there was absolutely no trouble in the few hours i was there.

    That its a nice location and not horrible to drink in and is secure is nice, but that we could get a double jameson, pint of cider for less than 8 euros is staggering. Same round in any irish pub is over 16 euros.

    Either they have insane buying power, or the publicans of Ireland have been shafting the public for a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    but that we could get a double jameson, pint of cider for less than 8 euros is staggering. Same round in any irish pub is over 16 euros.

    Either they have insane buying power, or the publicans of Ireland have been shafting the public for a long time.

    3.95 for Jameson + 2.00 for double = 5.95

    http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/FortyFoot2015.pdf

    Draught cider is 2.95?

    = 8.90?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »

    That its a nice location and not horrible to drink in and is secure is nice, but that we could get a double jameson, pint of cider for less than 8 euros is staggering. Same round in any irish pub is over 16 euros.

    Either they have insane buying power, or the publicans of Ireland have been shafting the public for a long time.


    Over 16 in Dublin?

    In Galway city centre Jameson would be 4.00-4.50, so say maybe 8.60 for a double.

    Draught cider would be 5.00????

    So 13.60 for that round, approx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Geuze wrote: »
    Over 16 in Dublin?

    In Galway city centre Jameson would be 4.00-4.50, so say maybe 8.60 for a double.

    Draught cider would be 5.00????

    So 13.60 for that round, approx.


    5.50 for a single spirit in Dublin city centre. Pint is anywhere from 5.10 to 6 quid depending on where and when you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Geuze wrote: »
    3.95 for Jameson + 2.00 for double = 5.95

    http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/FortyFoot2015.pdf

    Draught cider is 2.95?

    = 8.90?

    3.95(single whiskey) + 2 euro (double up price) = 5.95 + 2.95 (cider price)= 8.90

    Your maths checks out!


    40 foot prices < regular prices, by a lot.

    If you add in a mixer which is (being generous again) at least 2 quid in a regular pub, but free in Witherspoons the difference increases further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    5.50 for a single spirit in Dublin city centre. Pint is anywhere from 5.10 to 6 quid depending on where and when you go.

    Thanks.

    I don't go out in Dublin much at all, maybe once per year.

    So whiskey is 5.50 - I would have guessed maybe 4.70.

    I'm guessing Guinness is available within the canals for 4.60-4.80? [Not Temple Bar]

    I presume lager is over 5.00 everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,560 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    Either they have insane buying power, or the publicans of Ireland have been shafting the public for a long time.

    Both.

    Go to an area where the publican knows if he shafts his customers they simply won't come back (real rural countryside); and has lower costs and they'll be close - enough - to Wetherspoons. But JDW will inevitably be paying less for the raw product than said country pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Blut2 wrote: »
    Do you disagree with my statement? Blanchardstown is statistically a lower income, higher crime area than Blackrock. I thought I phrased that relatively tactfully in my post.

    Not sure where income fits into it does the income include deductions made for money left for nama and nalm to deal with or wifes assets of guys in receivership.


    Do you have a link to the crime stats for the two areas and do these stats include the cases where daddy paid to keep their kids out of jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Right that's enough of that. This is a discussion about Wetherspoons not socio-economic politics.

    Back on topic purrrlease.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Just a little Samba


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/FortyFoot2015.pdf http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/ThreeTunTavern2015.pdf

    The old menus, while they are still there... It looks like the prices have gone up a fair bit. Bottles are now 3.25 instead of 2.45.

    http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/TheGreatWood2015.pdf

    New menu and a quick comparison, price increases across the board.

    TSsgp1C.jpg

    Bengali Tiger and Sweet Action still €2.45 per can makes me a happy bunny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    Just don't head out to Blanch!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    All the main draught ales (Hogoblin, Adnams Ghost Ship and Broadside) have gone from €2.50 to €3.75 in Dun Laoghaire?! :eek:

    I can understand inflation given the Euro crisis, but f*ckin' hell. Any chance that this is only temporary?


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