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*Everything HPAT and Medicine 2014*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    I am going to practice some hpat when I'm off on holidays but do you recommend taking some books and what not to study for the actualy leaving cert or should I just focus on the hpat? :)

    I know you're not asking me, but Just HPAT now. I'd also say keep up the language skills with Duolingo and perfect the maths you are struggling with :) But mainly HPAT. As Omega said, you wont get time like this again. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    Thanks so much :)

    And best of luck to you guys on Monday, I genuinely hope you guys get what you want and what you worked hard for! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Thanks so much :)

    And best of luck to you guys on Monday, I genuinely hope you guys get what you want and what you worked hard for! :D

    I think no matter how I do in the HPAT, my Leaving cert has f'd me up! :(
    Some more advice regarding the Leaving cert before I forget:
    Do not take for granted the subjects you are good at.
    There wasn't ever a time in my fifth year exams that I got below an A1 in most subjects. The beginning of 6th year, the trend continued. My mocks in october, I did excellently! Then came the march mocks and bam! 495! :(
    I began to late to realise that I wasn't learning the stuff off in time. You know the learning off you do before a test, then you go in and write it.? That's not enough. I thought If I done this several times that It would stick-Surprise surprise.
    Start learning like you have the actual leaving cert in September. Keep doing exam questions.
    I know I sound like a sore loser now, but the exams this year were quite different in Biology and chemistry. Gone are the days of having set questions. The SEC want you to know EVERYTHING.
    Now although I feel I have hit the 500's, it's jsut not enough. I more than Likely will be repeating!
    Good luck guys.

    PS.. although you should do a little HPAT prep now, take it easy. Relax. Have fun. Life is for living!
    Keeping the balance in a career like Medicine is vital. Do not let the stress take over you. Keep control!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    I think no matter how I do in the HPAT, my Leaving cert has f'd me up! :(
    Some more advice regarding the Leaving cert before I forget:
    Do not take for granted the subjects you are good at.
    There wasn't ever a time in my fifth year exams that I got below an A1 in most subjects. The beginning of 6th year, the trend continued. My mocks in october, I did excellently! Then came the march mocks and bam! 495! :(
    I began to late to realise that I wasn't learning the stuff off in time. You know the learning off you do before a test, then you go in and write it.? That's not enough. I thought If I done this several times that It would stick-Surprise surprise.
    Start learning like you have the actual leaving cert in September. Keep doing exam questions.
    I know I sound like a sore loser now, but the exams this year were quite different in Biology and chemistry. Gone are the days of having set questions. The SEC want you to know EVERYTHING.
    Now although I feel I have hit the 500's, it's jsut not enough. I more than Likely will be repeating!
    Good luck guys.

    PS.. although you should do a little HPAT prep now, take it easy. Relax. Have fun. Life is for living!
    Keeping the balance in a career like Medicine is vital. Do not let the stress take over you. Keep control!

    Thanks for the advice :)
    Don't beat yourself up about it though, its over now and you did your best and you'll find a way to get medicine, whether it's repeating, taking a year out, going in another route through another course but don't let a terrible education system beat you ;):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    5th years, start studying now!
    Practice exam questions. Time yourself. Sit mock exams in exam like conditions. Read as much as you can to improve your vocabulary. Keep a a notepad with all the new words and definitions you come across and keep going back over them. The actual HPAT is normally around mock time so don't be too hard on yourself if the mock results aren't what you expected. The HPAT is more important. What's going to get you into college? Mock results or HPAT? Just put in as much effort as you can lads, it'll all be worth it one day. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    woopah92 wrote: »
    5th years, start studying now!
    Practice exam questions. Time yourself. Sit mock exams in exam like conditions. Read as much as you can to improve your vocabulary. Keep a a notepad with all the new words and definitions you come across and keep going back over them. The actual HPAT is normally around mock time so don't be too hard on yourself if the mock results aren't what you expected. The HPAT is more important. What's going to get you into college? Mock results or HPAT? Just put in as much effort as you can lads, it'll all be worth it one day. :P

    Great advice . I am going on holidays this week but when I come back I will have 7 weeks for revision and practicing hpat . Any advice on books for the hpat ? I did the online sample and found it good . I practice mensa puzzles aswell . Is the right kind of stuff to be learning ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Great advice . I am going on holidays this week but when I come back I will have 7 weeks for revision and practicing hpat . Any advice on books for the hpat ? I did the online sample and found it good . I practice mensa puzzles aswell . Is the right kind of stuff to be learning ?

    Skills to focus on:

    - Speed reading
    - Critical thinking
    - Graph reading
    - Emotional vocabulary

    I did Sudoku, puzzles etc but I don't feel it helped too much. The section 3 puzzles are different and just require a bit of practice to learn the common patterns and sequences to crack them.

    I'll post help here over the Summer on how to do them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Great advice . I am going on holidays this week but when I come back I will have 7 weeks for revision and practicing hpat . Any advice on books for the hpat ? I did the online sample and found it good . I practice mensa puzzles aswell . Is the right kind of stuff to be learning ?

    Hmm, I don't know of any books for the HPAT. A certain preparation course gives out lots of practice material, so make sure you go to one of them if you can. Mensa puzzles can't do you any harm. But HPAT focused material would be better.
    And yes, speed reading and critical thinking are VITAL for doing well. Also, you need to be able to move on mentally. As in, if you cannot figure out an answer, just move on and don't let it affect your other answers. I tried to read as many medical journals and health sections in newspapers as I could too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    HPAT 2014 study has begun!
    Ohhh I shudder at the memories of this ****! :P Please let the Gods Be looking down on me this year!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    HPAT 2014 study has begun!
    Ohhh I shudder at the memories of this ****! :P Please let the Gods Be looking down on me this year!!

    You haven't got the results of this year's. And the LC too. Be optimistic!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    woopah92 wrote: »
    You haven't got the results of this year's. And the LC too. Be optimistic!

    That's my downfall, I can never be optimistic about Medicine. Anytime I get remotely hopeful, something happens so I try and fall before I actually do, so that it wont hurt as much. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    That's my downfall, I can never be optimistic about Medicine. Anytime I get remotely hopeful, something happens so I try and fall before I actually do, so that it wont hurt as much. :)

    Haha, me too. I've told my parents that I "don't want to do medicine anymore" and pharmacy is my #1. :pac: Anyone who asks me what I want to do, I never mention medicine. :P What do you think would be the minimum score that would we would need to get us into medicine ANYWHERE?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    woopah92 wrote: »
    Haha, me too. I've told my parents that I "don't want to do medicine anymore" and pharmacy is my #1. :pac: Anyone who asks me what I want to do, I never mention medicine. :P What do you think would be the minimum score that would we would need to get us into medicine ANYWHERE?

    Hahaha! I am too late. If i going into the f-ing newsagents: "Hi. My mam said you're going for Medicine? Fair play...." ughhhh
    Combined? I'd say 742 galway.
    So even with max leaving cert, you need 177 minimum in the HPAT.
    Firstly, I haven't even got 550 and secondly, I am expecting a score like 150 LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    Hahaha! I am too late. If i going into the f-ing newsagents: "Hi. My mam said you're going for Medicine? Fair play...." ughhhh
    Combined? I'd say 742 galway.
    So even with max leaving cert, you need 177 minimum in the HPAT.
    Firstly, I haven't even got 550 and secondly, I am expecting a score like 150 LOL

    I made the mistake of telling the woman who cuts my hair that I want to do medicine like 4 months ago, and now everytime I go back in, she asks me if I've gotten the HPAT results yet. Depending on Monday, I may have to change hairdressers :pac:
    lol a max leaving cert. I'm HOPING get around 590ish...so that leaves about a 190 HPAT score to get into UCD. :( All hope has now gone. FU HPAT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    woopah92 wrote: »
    I made the mistake of telling the woman who cuts my hair that I want to do medicine like 4 months ago, and now everytime I go back in, she asks me if I've gotten the HPAT results yet. Depending on Monday, I may have to change hairdressers :pac:
    lol a max leaving cert. I'm HOPING get around 590ish...so that leaves about a 190 HPAT score to get into UCD. :( All hope has now gone. FU HPAT.

    LOL! i know all about that ****e haha!!
    Oh wow, 590? I once expected that, not after chemistry! :( or a lot of subjects mind you!
    I know, stupid HPAT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    0mega wrote: »
    Skills to focus on:

    - Speed reading
    - Critical thinking
    - Graph reading
    - Emotional vocabulary

    I did Sudoku, puzzles etc but I don't feel it helped too much. The section 3 puzzles are different and just require a bit of practice to learn the common patterns and sequences to crack them.

    I'll post help here over the Summer on how to do them.

    Sounds great , just got the fifth year report back and now I'm dead set on going for it . Academics have always been my thing . Thanks for the advice .


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    Hi guys.This seems to be the only place where I can discuss the 2014 HPAT ! God, I cannot believe it's my turn to sit this....Anyways , just wondering has anyone started doing anything and if so how have ye been practicing ? Im also wondering is it worth paying several hundred for the prep courses ? very confused :/ Hoping to do med in NUIG. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Shanrahan


    Im going into sixth year in september and I'm looking to do the two day Med Entry coarse in cork at Halloween and get the group premium package. But I don't know anybody who wants to do medicine aswell and there's no way ill pay 300euro more just because I don't know anybody. So if anyone is in the same situation as I am and wants to help each other other out I'd be very happy if you contacted me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 KrissandTess


    Can I just ask something, anyone know, what is the maxium score you can get from leaving cert? I've heard something like, if you get 600 you still get less....or something. ahha bit confused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    Can I just ask something, anyone know, what is the maxium score you can get from leaving cert? I've heard something like, if you get 600 you still get less....or something. ahha bit confused.

    You get 1 point for every 5 after 550. So 555=551, 560=552, 600=560.

    So 565 is the maximum (scaled down from 625).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    So anyone doing any preparation for this thing yet? :P

    Im looking through some questions from one of my brother's practice exams but that's it really.

    I feel like giving up already though its just something I know I won't do well in but I really hope I'm wrong :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    I've done one paper.Still getting the hang of the language and questions asked , hate section 3 !!!! When is everyone getting the prep courses ? And will it be ME ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 davidj_PM


    In case you were not aware, some changes have been made to the HPAT for 2014. Changes have been made to the weighting of the sections within the exams and the currency of results has also been amended - detail here:

    http://www.iua.ie/changes-to-hpat-ireland-for-entry-to-under-graduate-medical-courses-2/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    gabsy wrote: »
    I've done one paper.Still getting the hang of the language and questions asked , hate section 3 !!!! When is everyone getting the prep courses ? And will it be ME ?

    Yeh the language can be difficult in section 2 so every time I come across a new word I write it down in a copy and find the definition online so I can just look over them in the days before the hpat.

    I hate section 3 too but at least its weighting is only 20% so I guess that could play to our advantage slightly.

    Yes I'm going to get ME maybe at the start of september


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 petrichor


    I haven't started preparing for this at all yet, what are you all doing for it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 KrissandTess


    fewtins wrote: »
    You get 1 point for every 5 after 550. So 555=551, 560=552, 600=560.

    So 565 is the maximum (scaled down from 625).

    so basically you'll need a very good score on hpat no matter what then :S


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭miissjuly


    this is scary.. starting 6th year soon :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    Aaaah I'm so scared :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    OK, Time for an introduction!
    I will be repeating for Medicine this coming year. I'm Outnumbered and although you probably wont want to take advice of me, I do know how all works as I've been through it! Feel free to fire any questions! :D
    I am really looking forward to getting back into the work and eventually getting Medicine.
    I'm sure it will be a pleasure getting to know you all!!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    OK, Time for an introduction!
    I will be repeating for Medicine this coming year. I'm Outnumbered and although you probably wont want to take advice of me, I do know how all works as I've been through it! Feel free to fire any questions! :D
    I am really looking forward to getting back into the work and eventually getting Medicine.
    I'm sure it will be a pleasure getting to know you all!!! :D

    Fair play for being positive about it, and you should be too!
    I won't have the option to repeat, I'll be 19 sitting the leaving cert :eek: so hopefully we both get it this year! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Billiethepup


    I won't have the option to repeat, I'll be 19 sitting the leaving cert :eek: so hopefully we both get it this year! :D

    This made me lol!
    ...so Ill be 30, and repeating LC to get med...I seriously wouldn't panic about being 19!! ;-)
    There's ALWAYS the option to repeat to get it! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    This made me lol!
    ...so Ill be 30, and repeating LC to get med...I seriously wouldn't panic about being 19!! ;-)
    There's ALWAYS the option to repeat to get it! :-)

    I wouldn't be able to repeat for numerous reasons though... not just because of my age :/
    Anyway, I just don't want to think about repeating before I've even had my first attempt yet :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Fair play for being positive about it, and you should be too!
    I won't have the option to repeat, I'll be 19 sitting the leaving cert :eek: so hopefully we both get it this year! :D

    Sorry, I was sure I replied!
    Oh I am now even more determined! :D I'm sure you wont have too! I am still only 17 and not 18 til Feb so It doesn't really bother me age-wise! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Billiethepup


    Anyway, I just don't want to think about repeating before I've even had my first attempt yet :P

    Absolutely agree, this year is the one to focus on!
    Anyway, heres hoping all us boardsies will get it 2014! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    Right lads ,lets get this started ! Results are over and now it's our time to stress and hopefully shine ! :) has anybody done any study yet or practiced more on the hpat , I still have to get the prep course , if anyone's interested in getting a group discount let me know :) I'm excited and scared at the same time :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭JDOC1996


    Looking forward to getting into it, I'd say I'll wait until I'm back to school to begin any serious Hpat study. Im just going to enjoy my free time before Im back to school, I won't have time like this again for 9 months haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    JDOC1996 wrote: »
    Looking forward to getting into it, I'd say I'll wait until I'm back to school to begin any serious Hpat study. Im just going to enjoy my free time before Im back to school, I won't have time like this again for 9 months haha
    Are you going doing ME ? Same here , I think this will be the only social life ill have very soon ! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭yoppo


    I'm doing the HPAT again at the tender age of nearly 28! Did the LC again this year so have the whole year to do HPAT!!! Can't wait... It's so much fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    I know the HPAT and LC probably seems overwhelming enough as it is at this stage, but I've posted this for those who may perhaps like to keep their options as wide open as possible next year!

    This should be particularly useful to anyone repeating:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86035555#post86035555


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    0mega wrote: »
    I know the HPAT and LC probably seems overwhelming enough as it is at this stage, but I've posted this for those who may perhaps like to keep their options as wide open as possible next year!

    This should be particularly useful to anyone repeating:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86035555#post86035555

    Please note that only 1 UK uni accepts repeat students and they still need 4 A's first time round.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Billiethepup


    Please note that only 1 UK uni accepts repeat students and they still need 4 A's first time round.

    Which one? I've emailed about 10 so far and no joy! :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Which one? I've emailed about 10 so far and no joy! :confused:

    keele if memory serves right. :)
    Or possibly Exeter. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 SoundInfluence


    3rd time's the charm :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    3rd time's the charm :p

    far off? :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    yoppo wrote: »
    I'm doing the HPAT again at the tender age of nearly 28! Did the LC again this year so have the whole year to do HPAT!!! Can't wait... It's so much fun!

    How did you get on in Chemistry after? :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭yoppo


    woopah92 wrote: »
    How did you get on in Chemistry after? :p

    A1... Luckily!! That and biology were my only A1's!! A few B1's thrown in for good measure!


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    yoppo wrote: »
    A1... Luckily!! That and biology were my only A1's!! A few B1's thrown in for good measure!

    Wahey! I got A1's in Bio and Chem too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 ChnirpyDerp


    Hey guys, I'm bored as hell and I'm feeling sagey, so heres my 2 cents for the HPAT and LC.
    For the LC, THE single most effective way I learned was by sifting through each textbook and writing out much condensed versions of whats there already. Staple things I'd never leave out were the definitions.
    I did Chemistry, Biology, Physics and Business(bit random) and they all had a TONNE of definitions! So basically, I got a nice Hardback copy and literally read through the books for these subjects while taking ANY useful info. LEAVE NO FACT BEHIND!!
    This way, I had condensed each subject into roughly 20 A4 pages of sardine-packed information (I wrote small). I used red pen and blue pen to differentiate key bits from less key ones, and did it in my best handwriting and labelled everything clearly. Then, I could simply use these notebooks when I needed to revise, no useless extra padding the textbooks provide! I did this just before my Mock exams for two subjects and (stupidly) in the two weeks before the LC for Business and Biology. I recommend you do it earlier (if you wanna ya know :P) and constantly revise.
    For Maths, a strong one for me, I simply did the last three questions of each set of questions in the book. USE the examples!! They're awesome. Obviously make sure you understand what you're doing, rote learning is abolished by Project Maths :).
    For English, consult someone else because I got Cs all through 6th year but pulled an A2 in the LC out of my..brain :D. I think I deserved it though, I studied all my texts extensively and learned a LOT of quotes. I also made myself LIKE the poetry so it was easier to study :D.
    I am sad to say I completely and utterly neglected Irish (I did pass Irish) and just studied the night before using a revise wise for it. Don't do what I did for Irish if you like it. I hated it and neglecting it left more time to study for what I like to study but it was risky. I got a B2 so no complaints haha.
    AAAAAAAANDDD THE HPAT. One word...PracticeTestsOnMed*EntryAndDrills. I started just before the mocks and didn't get to do all the practice tests :(. You guys are awesome for starting so early. I KILLED myself in the week before the HPAT doing those practice tests, 3 hours a pop, 2 a DAY ALONG WITH SCHOOL WORK. The actual one was a cinch because my mind was fresh and the actual thing is shorter than the practice tests I did :).

    So that's what I did guys, and I'm currently ****ting myself about the health checkup for no reason :D. GOOD LUCK!!

    Edit: (How could I have forgotten!) I did all the exam papers for Maths, Chemistry, Physics, Biology and Business from those Edco exam papers and made sure I could write an essay from each year of the English exam papers by brainstorming ideas and revising Key moments. Sounds like a lot but spread out its grand! (:


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭gabsy


    Hey guys, I'm bored as hell and I'm feeling sagey, so heres my 2 cents for the HPAT and LC.
    For the LC, THE single most effective way I learned was by sifting through each textbook and writing out much condensed versions of whats there already. Staple things I'd never leave out were the definitions.
    I did Chemistry, Biology, Physics and Business(bit random) and they all had a TONNE of definitions! So basically, I got a nice Hardback copy and literally read through the books for these subjects while taking ANY useful info. LEAVE NO FACT BEHIND!!
    This way, I had condensed each subject into roughly 20 A4 pages of sardine-packed information (I wrote small). I used red pen and blue pen to differentiate key bits from less key ones, and did it in my best handwriting and labelled everything clearly. Then, I could simply use these notebooks when I needed to revise, no useless extra padding the textbooks provide! I did this just before my Mock exams for two subjects and (stupidly) in the two weeks before the LC for Business and Biology. I recommend you do it earlier (if you wanna ya know :P) and constantly revise.
    For Maths, a strong one for me, I simply did the last three questions of each set of questions in the book. USE the examples!! They're awesome. Obviously make sure you understand what you're doing, rote learning is abolished by Project Maths :).
    For English, consult someone else because I got Cs all through 6th year but pulled an A2 in the LC out of my..brain :D. I think I deserved it though, I studied all my texts extensively and learned a LOT of quotes. I also made myself LIKE the poetry so it was easier to study :D.
    I am sad to say I completely and utterly neglected Irish (I did pass Irish) and just studied the night before using a revise wise for it. Don't do what I did for Irish if you like it. I hated it and neglecting it left more time to study for what I like to study but it was risky. I got a B2 so no complaints haha.
    AAAAAAAANDDD THE HPAT. One word...PracticeTestsOnMed*EntryAndDrills. I started just before the mocks and didn't get to do all the practice tests :(. You guys are awesome for starting so early. I KILLED myself in the week before the HPAT doing those practice tests, 3 hours a pop, 2 a DAY ALONG WITH SCHOOL WORK. The actual one was a cinch because my mind was fresh and the actual thing is shorter than the practice tests I did :).

    So that's what I did guys, and I'm currently ****ting myself about the health checkup for no reason :D. GOOD LUCK!!

    Edit: (How could I have forgotten!) I did all the exam papers for Maths, Chemistry, Physics, Biology and Business from those Edco exam papers and made sure I could write an essay from each year of the English exam papers by brainstorming ideas and revising Key moments. Sounds like a lot but spread out its grand! (:
    Thanks very much ! It's hard to find people who don't mind sharing their techniques :) just one question , how many hours per night did you spend studying ? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 ChnirpyDerp


    gabsy wrote: »
    Thanks very much ! It's hard to find people who don't mind sharing their techniques :) just one question , how many hours per night did you spend studying ? :)

    Haha no problem!
    As for hours per night, it varied a lot. In my opinion its best to decide on topics per night. This way, you wont lull yourself into a false sense of security. Sitting down for an hour or two staring at one page is no good.

    So yeah, do chapters per night, and if theyre huge ones do half of em. Personally I did pages per night of each subject, about 8 a day for each(transcribing them) and calculated it all out so Id finished all my study with time left to revise as exams approached.
    There ya go :)


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