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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    "Drawing heat the hard way", by Larry Matysik just arrived in the post today for me.

    Well chuffed, I've not read that much, just the opening couple of chapters, and scanned through some of it. But it seems to be a great read. Based on what I've seen so far, I'd recommend it. Think i'll pick up his Brody book as well, based on this- he has a really pleasing writing style and his credentials are right up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Got Foley's diaries out of the library. I've heard it's rubbish and he whinges a lot in it and comes across as a prick but I'll have a look anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    On my wish list so far:

    Bruno Laurer
    William Regal
    Dynamite kid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Lads, Mick Foleys first one (Have a Nice Day) is one of my favourite autobiographies. Never read any of his following books. How many are there, and should I read them? Do they compliment the first book at all? Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Lads, Mick Foleys first one (Have a Nice Day) is one of my favourite autobiographies. Never read any of his following books. How many are there, and should I read them? Do they compliment the first book at all? Cheers

    The second book ("Foley is good") is impressive- it goes into detail about alot of stuff left out, and post-"retirement". It's well written and very enjoyable in general, even if he does fill it out alot with random lists and rants about issues.

    The third- Hardcore Diaries was a different matter for me. I found it frustrating, and irritating. Foley's opinion of himself, and weird obsession with Melina, and totally incorrect evaluation of Terry Funk as relevant to the public in today's climate, make it a chore at times.
    On the other hand, the detail is great, and the concept is excellent (an ongoing diary detailing his build-up to ECW one night stand). It's cool to read some of the insights into behind the scenes meetings and the workings of the televised story arcs- but for me, the outlook behind it all spoiled it alot.

    Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Gonna revive an old thread here so apologies:):)

    I'm new to buying Wrestling books so I don't have many but my collection includes:
    - Shawn Michaels Heartbreak & Triumph - Good read
    - Bret Hart - The most detailed book on wrestling ever written
    - Chris Jericho A Lion's Tale - My favourite book ever, just brilliant.

    I just bought Hogan's new book and, to be honest, I really don't know what to make of it. I'm only a few chapters in but the person Hogan portray's himself as is really annoying + he's trying WAY too hard to be funny


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...



    I'm new to buying Wrestling books so I don't have many but my collection includes:
    - Shawn Michaels Heartbreak & Triumph - Good read
    - Bret Hart - The most detailed book on wrestling ever written
    - Chris Jericho A Lion's Tale - My favourite book ever, just brilliant.

    I just bought Hogan's new book and, to be honest, I really don't know what to make of it. I'm only a few chapters in but the person Hogan portray's himself as is really annoying + he's trying WAY too hard to be funny

    Beware the tall tales of Hogan. He's always entertaining, but absolutely full of shart.

    If you haven't read the first Foley book you'll really enjoy it. It's detailed similarly to Bret's, but the humour is more in line with Jericho's.
    Jerry Lawler and William Regal's are both really excellent reads too.

    I'd advise staying away from the Ted DiBiase and Andre the Giant efforts though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Beware the tall tales of Hogan. He's always entertaining, but absolutely full of shart.

    If you haven't read the first Foley book you'll really enjoy it. It's detailed similarly to Bret's, but the humour is more in line with Jericho's.
    Jerry Lawler and William Regal's are both really excellent reads too.

    I'd advise staying away from the Ted DiBiase and Andre the Giant efforts though.

    The thing with Hogan is that he portray's himself as the be-all and end-all of pro wrestling, brother:D:D

    I trying to find Foley's first book but can only find Foley's third book. From what I've heard, it's the worst book out of the three he has written. Regal's is ment to be very good. Haven't heard anything about King's book

    Thanks for the advise. I'll probably go into Waterstones or Easons later and have a look around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    The thing with Hogan is that he portray's himself as the be-all and end-all of pro wrestling, brother:D:D

    I trying to find Foley's first book but can only find Foley's third book. From what I've heard, it's the worst book out of the three he has written. Regal's is ment to be very good. Haven't heard anything about King's book

    Thanks for the advise. I'll probably go into Waterstones or Easons later and have a look around.

    King's book is really good because there's stuff on an earlier period, that comes from a different point of view than we usually get. I found it really interesting reading about his coming into the wwe in the 90's, later than most, and the transistion from wrestling to being a commentator. His later personal life though is described in disturbing detail.

    WHS Smith and Easons in Belfast have Regal's in Paperback, so it shouldn't be too tough to find generally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    King's book is really good because there's stuff on an earlier period, that comes from a different point of view than we usually get. I found it really interesting reading about his coming into the wwe in the 90's, later than most, and the transistion from wrestling to being a commentator. His later personal life though is described in disturbing detail.

    WHS Smith and Easons in Belfast have Regal's in Paperback, so it shouldn't be too tough to find generally.

    I'm down in Cork. I checked Easons the other day & it's selection of wrestling books are awful. About a grand total of 5 which are Hogan, Bischoff, Jericho, DiBiase and Stone Cold


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    I'm looking for a recommendation. What book has a good decent honest history of wrestling in the 80s? I'm talking the move from territories to the national stage. Wikipedia just doesn't cut it:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    I started reading Hogan's book yesterday. GOOD ****ING LORD.

    4 PAGES. That's all it took and the book was nearly out the window.
    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    I'm looking for a recommendation. What book has a good decent honest history of wrestling in the 80s? I'm talking the move from territories to the national stage. Wikipedia just doesn't cut it:p

    Christ, I tried to think, but i can't remember off the top of my head much of what I've read where. I think Lawler's is really interesting from a Memphis point of view- and how they coped. The Pro-Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Tag Teams is good from that perspective, because 80's tag teams are really well covered- but i guess isn't what you're looking for at all. Maybe someone else can remember better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    I'm looking for a recommendation. What book has a good decent honest history of wrestling in the 80s? I'm talking the move from territories to the national stage. Wikipedia just doesn't cut it:p

    The Ric Flair book would be a good overview.

    This seems to be the book you're looking for: National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Professional Wrestling. I've never read it but I vaguely remember people saying it was good.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Wrestling-Alliance-Strangled-Professional/dp/1550227416/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258886205&sr=1-1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    I just finished reading Hogans newest effort and I thought it was quite good....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Just finished Pipers there the other day. Very good read.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    I just finished reading Hogans newest effort and I thought it was quite good....

    Imo, it was awful. The way Hogan portrayed himself, you'd swear he was God (which isn't new). New game, count the amoint of times Hogan says the words "Brother" in it.

    Might get the Rey book next. 20e from Eason's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    Anyone know if any decent books are available on ebook?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    just read jerichos again just brilliant book and greatly written by jericho


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    sky88 wrote: »
    just read jerichos again just brilliant book and greatly written by jericho

    It is. I wasn't expecting that much (even though I think he's got a great mind for the business) and ended up finishing it within 4 days.

    I really hope he holds off on a follow-up until he retires or leaves the WWE. I'd say he could tell a few stories....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    The Ric Flair book would be a good overview.

    This seems to be the book you're looking for: National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Professional Wrestling. I've never read it but I vaguely remember people saying it was good.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Wrestling-Alliance-Strangled-Professional/dp/1550227416/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258886205&sr=1-1

    Ya thats on my to-get list, heard it was good.

    Also have to still get Meltzer's Obituaries books.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


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    Highly recommend Bobby Heenan's book. Great and funny read, as to be expected fom The Brain


  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Brethitmanhart


    I really liked Bret's book, so detailed and he didnt try to make himself out to be the greatest guy in the world.

    Martha Harts Broken Harts was a good book too...obviously it was very sad.

    Going to read Jericho's next when I get the chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    I really liked Bret's book, so detailed and he didnt try to make himself out to be the greatest guy in the world.

    I honestly got a different impression from it (Guess its all down to opinion that you are obviously a fan of his and I am not) Too many times throughout the book it was "I slept with this girl but it was my wife's fault" I know he says at 1 point that its not her fault he done it but he says about 5 different times it was. Didn't put him in a great light in my eyes at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Finally got around to starting Jericho's book last night. Bought it a few years back and it kinda got pushed off time and time again for one reason or another.


    Have to say that from what I have read so far, that it is a very enjoyable read with a good sense of humour shining through.


  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Brethitmanhart


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    I honestly got a different impression from it (Guess its all down to opinion that you are obviously a fan of his and I am not) Too many times throughout the book it was "I slept with this girl but it was my wife's fault" I know he says at 1 point that its not her fault he done it but he says about 5 different times it was. Didn't put him in a great light in my eyes at all.

    I can't remember him blaming his wife in all fairness, he'd give an excuse that he used at the time like "I was lonely because she wasn't there" but he never blamed her iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    I'm reading "Drawing Heat the Hard Way" by Larry Matyzik (right hand man to former NWA president Sam Mucnhick) at the moment.

    It's a really interesting read that goes as deep into wrestling as any book I've ever read. Larry has done a tonne of interviews up here if you want to get a sample of the tone of the book, click here for this great audio interview:

    http://57gold.com/playerMP3.asp?v=275

    You can order the book here:
    http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Heat-Hard-Way-Wrestling/dp/1550228994


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    I honestly got a different impression from it (Guess its all down to opinion that you are obviously a fan of his and I am not) Too many times throughout the book it was "I slept with this girl but it was my wife's fault" I know he says at 1 point that its not her fault he done it but he says about 5 different times it was. Didn't put him in a great light in my eyes at all.

    TBH, it wasn't that so much that coloured my opinion of him - he was pretty frank about the fact that he was a fairly useless husband (certainly fidelity-wise) and the forward to the book thanked his first wife for "putting up with me as long as she did". Yeah, he feels he was ina sh1t marriage, and many cheating husbands do - some even are! At least he admitted it.

    There were other things that got to me about it, and made me think less of him. Whatever you say, though, it seems to be an honest account of his life - as he sees it. Which is all we can ask for I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    Very true, he seems to have some major insecurity issues it seems just from reading the book. It's like he is trying to convince you that he is the man and what he is doing is somehow right. Like when he would say "I beat Mr.X in a match and walked to the back and Mr.Y was there, crying thanking me for putting on a great match" Too many times he does it in the book for my liking but I guess like you said fair play to him for being honest (As far as we know)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    I finally got around to reading A Lions Tale, what an amazing book, cant wait to read Jerichos next book, which hes writing at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    I finally got around to reading A Lions Tale, what an amazing book, cant wait to read Jerichos next book, which hes writing at the moment

    I love the book, Jericho has such a good sense of humour in it. He's actually finished writing his 2nd book. It'll be released in America/Canada in the autumn of this year


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,924 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Great thread with lots of good advice lads, Think i'll pick up Jericho's book next based on the reviews here.

    I'm not one for buying things of the internet so hopefully I'll pick it up in a book shop made of "bricks and morter" as someone put it earlier in the thread.


    I recently finished Bret Hart's book - I was never much of a fan in the 90's and couldn't understand the appeal he had to others but after reading the book i'm a massive fan now.

    It is a bit one sided at times but anyone writing a biography can only tell it as they saw it.

    His obsession with been the world champion and the main man in the business was scary, and he protrays his family as a bunch of crazies (which they probably were).. The stuff he wrote about dynamite is heart wrenching - must get his book too.

    Keep the reviews going !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Great thread with lots of good advice lads, Think i'll pick up Jericho's book next based on the reviews here.

    I'm not one for buying things of the internet so hopefully I'll pick it up in a book shop made of "bricks and morter" as someone put it earlier in the thread.


    I recently finished Bret Hart's book - I was never much of a fan in the 90's and couldn't understand the appeal he had to others but after reading the book i'm a massive fan now.

    It is a bit one sided at times but anyone writing a biography can only tell it as they saw it.

    His obsession with been the world champion and the main man in the business was scary, and he protrays his family as a bunch of crazies (which they probably were).. The stuff he wrote about dynamite is heart wrenching - must get his book too.

    Keep the reviews going !!

    Funny I just listened to a shoot with the New Age Outlaws recently - though they're not the most reliable pair, I think they're right when they say that Hart took being the champ way too seriously.* Kip James claimed that, when Hart asked him who he thought the better wrestler was and he answered 'Shawn Michaels', Hart went very huffy. I'd believe that.


    *They also note that he wasn't the first, and he won't be the last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    I'm reading "Drawing Heat the Hard Way" by Larry Matyzik (right hand man to former NWA president Sam Mucnhick) at the moment.

    It's a really interesting read that goes as deep into wrestling as any book I've ever read. Larry has done a tonne of interviews up here if you want to get a sample of the tone of the book, click here for this great audio interview:

    http://57gold.com/playerMP3.asp?v=275

    You can order the book here:
    http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Heat-Hard-Way-Wrestling/dp/1550228994

    Seconding the love for this book- it's fantastic. Really made me want to pick up The Brody one as well, anyone read it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Chris Jericho's second autobiography will be titled "Highlight of the Night." While a domestic release has not been announced, it will be released on 9/16 in Canada and 2/17/11 in Great Britain. The synopsis released with promotional material for the book reads:


    A Lion's Tale documented Chris Jericho's journey from small-time dreamer to big-time superstar, from Winnipeg, Canada, to undisputed WWE heavyweight champion of the world. Having achieved his wildest dreams in A Lion's Tale, Chris Jericho's sequel kicks off just as the fantasy begins to unravel. Faced with endless internal politics on his rise to the top of the WWE company ladder, Jericho has to draw on the super-human resources that got him there in the first place. There are bruising encounters aplenty both inside and outside the ring. He reveals why he temporarily left WWE, includes the inside story of his time in Hollywood, and opens the can of worms that is life on the road with Fozzy. He also re-visits the premature birth of his twins and the pain of his mother's death, as well as the shock of Eddy Guerrero's and the Benoit family deaths. As upfront and outspoken as A Lion's Tale, the sequel is outspoken and direct as the man himself.

    I'm praying this''ll be as good as "A Lion's Tale". My main concern with this is that WWE prob want Y2J to portray them in the best possible light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    While a domestic release has not been announced, it will be released on 9/16 in Canada

    Great, I plan on being in Canada around this time.
    A Lion's Tale documented Chris Jericho's journey from small-time dreamer to big-time superstar, from Winnipeg, Canada, to undisputed WWE heavyweight champion of the world

    Eh? No it didnt.
    I'm praying this''ll be as good as "A Lion's Tale". My main concern with this is that WWE prob want Y2J to portray them in the best possible light.

    It may depend on if they are publishing it or not. I hope they are not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Tribesmen7


    So I saw Rey Mysterios autobiography in a shop the other day. Is this new and has anyone read it? I might get it when I'm finished Bret Harts book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Tribesmen7 wrote: »
    So I saw Rey Mysterios autobiography in a shop the other day. Is this new and has anyone read it? I might get it when I'm finished Bret Harts book.

    It is new indeed. Haven't read it myself though, and unless it pops up on my doorstep, I'm not going to. Have heard it's pretty flimsy, and stuff like his drug/painkiller addictions are laughably glossed over.


    I've just started Gorgeous George's bio... good stuff thus far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭Richard Noggin


    Bret Hart's book is an excellent read.I don't read much but I finished that in like a week.His honesty was admirable although he sometimes comes across a little bitter. Nonetheless, its hugely enjoyable due to the lack of a WWE interference.I'd definitely recommend it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ciarang08


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    From PWInsider
    Cross Rhodes", the WWE biography on Dustin "Goldust" Rhodes, has been slated for a 12/7 release.

    Mark Vancil, who worked with Michael Jordan on several book projects, has been tapped to write the bio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    Just while this topic is alaive again, I can not recommend highly enough "Pain and Passion: The History of Stampede Wrestling by Heath McCoy".

    If you even have a passing 9interest in the Hart family, I would still highly recommend it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Just while this topic is alaive again, I can not recommend highly enough "Pain and Passion: The History of Stampede Wrestling by Heath McCoy".

    If you even have a passing 9interest in the Hart family, I would still highly recommend it.

    Still on my to buy list.

    Also want to get Meltzer's Tributes I add II, I'd imagne they're amazing, having read the likes of the brilliant Misawa tribute in recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭EdK


    WWE just need to stop writing their bios like everyone reading them is mentally deficient (fair enough a good chunk of them are lol) with 3 page chapters loads of pictures and giant writing like Rey Mysterios


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    EdK wrote: »
    WWE just need to stop writing their bios like everyone reading them is mentally deficient (fair enough a good chunk of them are lol) with 3 page chapters loads of pictures and giant writing like Rey Mysterios

    Yeah I generally avoid like the plague unless they're given a widespread recommendation like Regal's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭mr.mayo


    Great thread, lots of great info in here. I haven't read many wrestling books purely because I was a late starter. Just bought my first one on impulse, saw Bret's book in ASDA when I was in the North and thought "Hmm, this could be interesting" lol. I started it as soon as I got home and was finished within a week, phenomenal book, really captivating stuff. I was completely engrossed from beginning to end, over 500 pages in the smallest font I've ever seen and I was still aching for more! The amount of detail was just amazing, there really was a mammoth amount of work put into it

    After that I started looking in the internet for some bargains, I got Foley's first one on ebay for less than a fiver (including P&P) and needless to say, I was very pleased with myself! Another fantastic read, I love Foley's unique brand of humour. You can tell there was also a huge amount of effort put into this book, great read and would thoroughly recommend it to anyone.

    After that I picked up Stone Cold's book from the library. Although it was enjoyable, it was just too damn short. There was basically no effort put into it at all, it flies through his career far too quickly. There is very little detail, and almost half the book is pictures ffs! Overall it was a disappointment to me, I guess I had been spoiled with Bret & Foley's!

    Next up for me is either Jericho's or another one of Foley's, whichever is the cheapest will prevail!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Get Jericho's. It's probably the best wrestling bio.

    Eddie's is damn good too.

    Regal's book is very good. Shawn's is okay. As is Jerry Lawler's and Kurt Angle's (only enjoyed the first part of the book).

    Ric Flair's is interesting too and I enjoyed Bischoff's.

    Ones to avoid: The Rock, Hulk Hogan, Ted DiBiase and André.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭mr.mayo


    Didn't Rock write his in his mid 20's? If that's the case then I'd imagine it's something like Ashley Cole's book lol

    Just ordered Jericho's book off ebay, also picked up Kurt Angle's for only like €4 including P&P!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Willie Stroker


    Read Bishoff , Jerchio , Shawn Michaels and listened to Mick Foley and Stone Cold as long I listened to Kurt Angle RF Shoot , Bob Holly and currentely to Jeff Hardy not bad for a 14 year old hay , Jericho is a great read so is bishoff . Not the biggest fan of Hulk Hogan, so wont be reading that one..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    - The second autobiography of Chris Jericho has been officially titled Undisputed: How to Become the World Champion in 1,372 Easy Steps, due for release in February 16, 2011 (US and Canada afaik)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    - The second autobiography of Chris Jericho has been officially titled Undisputed: How to Become the World Champion in 1,372 Easy Steps, due for release in February 16, 2011 (US and Canada afaik)

    really looking forward to this, loved his first one and will deifnatley be picking this one up!


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