Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 7:37am

zol 2 wrote: »

Now that Sunday is nearly upon us is there anyone on here giving Dungarvan a chance of pulling it off?

If DLS play like they can play they should win. If they dont buck up from recent performances however and stop giving away soft goals this young fearless dungarvan team will be ready to seize the opportunity

hardybuck · 10-10-2012 9:47am

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

If DLS play like they can play they should win. If they dont buck up from recent performances however and stop giving away soft goals this young fearless dungarvan team will be ready to seize the opportunity

We'll see really how fearless Dungarvan are on Sunday. This will be the biggest game most of them have played. The hype in the build up, as well as the huge home crowd on the day might start to get in their heads. DLS themselves were in a similar position in 2005 when they played Ballygunner. I think they'd something like 8 or 9 U21s starting. They threw away that game, losing it by a point.

If DLS play to potential, they have the tools to dismantle most teams in the country. I can see them having too much for Dungarvan on the day.

Cake Man · 10-10-2012 10:56am

Sunday is hardly an all ticket game, is it? Saw a piece under the club notes in the News & Star that tickets can be got but I presume you can just pay at the gate on the day?

Agree with hardybuck, it will be interesting to see how Dungarvan cope with the occasion but I think they'll give a good account of themselves and not fold like Tallow last year. In the end though, DLS by 4 or 5 for me.

Mountainlad · 10-10-2012 11:06am

hardybuck wrote: »

We'll see really how fearless Dungarvan are on Sunday. This will be the biggest game most of them have played. The hype in the build up, as well as the huge home crowd on the day might start to get in their heads. DLS themselves were in a similar position in 2005 when they played Ballygunner. I think they'd something like 8 or 9 U21s starting. They threw away that game, losing it by a point.

If DLS play to potential, they have the tools to dismantle most teams in the country. I can see them having too much for Dungarvan on the day.

Right, hold it there now. The tools to dismantle most teams in the Country? Who outside of Waterford have DLS ever dismantled? This year they've hammered the small teams, but when it's put up to them they look quite beatable (example, Fourmile, Lismore and Mount Sion).

It's this kind of thinking that has DLS struggling through their last two games, there is a sense of entitlement there underlined by the 3-3-1 thing. You could say that too much of a deal is being made of it, but personally I just feel that when the chips are down the attitude is more likely to be "Why aren't we winning" rather than "We need to do something about this". Hoping they do get caught out on Sunday, they need a lesson.

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 11:19am

Mountainlad wrote: »

Right, hold it there now. The tools to dismantle most teams in the Country? Who outside of Waterford have DLS ever dismantled? This year they've hammered the small teams, but when it's put up to them they look quite beatable (example, Fourmile, Lismore and Mount Sion).

It's this kind of thinking that has DLS struggling through their last two games, there is a sense of entitlement there underlined by the 3-3-1 thing. You could say that too much of a deal is being made of it, but personally I just feel that when the chips are down the attitude is more likely to be "Why aren't we winning" rather than "We need to do something about this". Hoping they do get caught out on Sunday, they need a lesson.

Not denying this 3-3-1 malarkey isn't a bit ridiculous and brings unwanted pressure on themeselves, but theyve a good man behind them in derek mcgrath and I'll be surprised if he dosent have their feet firmly on the ground come sunday

hardybuck · 10-10-2012 11:21am

Mountainlad wrote: »

Right, hold it there now. The tools to dismantle most teams in the Country? Who outside of Waterford have DLS ever dismantled? This year they've hammered the small teams, but when it's put up to them they look quite beatable (example, Fourmile, Lismore and Mount Sion).

It's this kind of thinking that has DLS struggling through their last two games, there is a sense of entitlement there underlined by the 3-3-1 thing. You could say that too much of a deal is being made of it, but personally I just feel that when the chips are down the attitude is more likely to be "Why aren't we winning" rather than "We need to do something about this". Hoping they do get caught out on Sunday, they need a lesson.

Fair enough. On reflection that was inaccurate. They certainly have the ability to beat most teams in the country.

The 3-3-1 thing is nonsense if it is true alright. On the entitlement bit, having spoken with friends who played with Cork and Kerry teams, they feel that when playing for the county that they have that entitlement to beat certain teams, and the jersey is worth a few points to them. Interesting psychology.

hardybuck · 10-10-2012 11:45am

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Not denying this 3-3-1 malarkey isn't a bit ridiculous and brings unwanted pressure on themeselves, but theyve a good man behind them in derek mcgrath and I'll be surprised if he dosent have their feet firmly on the ground come sunday

Would you be so sure about McGrath keeping lads grounded? I'd suspect he is the one behind any of that sort of notions creeping in. I don't remember any of this sort of talk before.

I can remember a lot of talk about the preparation of the DLS school teams when they had a couple of Harty Cup wins. Turning up for games decked out head to toe in matching Tommy Hilfiger outfits etc? Apparently they spend €60,000 in just one year on the senior school team.

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 12:47pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Would you be so sure about McGrath keeping lads grounded? I'd suspect he is the one behind any of that sort of notions creeping in. I don't remember any of this sort of talk before.

I can remember a lot of talk about the preparation of the DLS school teams when they had a couple of Harty Cup wins. Turning up for games decked out head to toe in matching Tommy Hilfiger outfits etc? Apparently they spend €60,000 in just one year on the senior school team.

He certainly helped bring a very professional approach and a winning mentality to that setup. The results are there tbf an all-conquering side 2 A Colleges & Harty Cup victories in succession, it was something like 50 years since a waterford team won a Harty prior to that. 60K sounds a lot but youd be surprised, with a panel of 30-35 the expenses wouldnt be long building up over the course of a season.
This is a different ball game I know but his mentality of leaving no stone unturned in getting the best out of a group of players will certainly win him the respect of the players. I think DLS should win on Sunday regardless and its the Munster Club Championship that this regime will really be put to the test.

hardybuck · 10-10-2012 1:48pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

He certainly helped bring a very professional approach and a winning mentality to that setup. The results are there tbf an all-conquering side 2 A Colleges & Harty Cup victories in succession, it was something like 50 years since a waterford team won a Harty prior to that. 60K sounds a lot but youd be surprised, with a panel of 30-35 the expenses wouldnt be long building up over the course of a season.
This is a different ball game I know but his mentality of leaving no stone unturned in getting the best out of a group of players will certainly win him the respect of the players. I think DLS should win on Sunday regardless and its the Munster Club Championship that this regime will really be put to the test.

A chat for another day, but I believe that sort of expenditure to be totally inappropriate for a school team. Team bonding sessions in the UK for lads who'd spent 4 or 5 years in school together, cryotherapy sessions in Wexford etc. I'm sure they won't be able to get away with blowing that sort of money again.

I think DLS have the goods to win also, but I wouldn't describe him as a grounding influence based on the above and some of the 3.3.1 talk.

Black Suir · 10-10-2012 2:50pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Not denying this 3-3-1 malarkey isn't a bit ridiculous and brings unwanted pressure on themeselves, but theyve a good man behind them in derek mcgrath and I'll be surprised if he dosent have their feet firmly on the ground come sunday

Nobody could argue against what Derek McGrath has done while coaching/managing a team, but they (Managers/Coachs) dont win or loose games, but they do play a roll in how a game pans out. Its the players that win or loose. De La Salle should be good enough to beat Dungarvan on Sunday, but once they get out of the county, they could find it tough. If other sides get to hear about this 3-3-1 crap, they will be laughing at them and will be more than happy to take them down a peg or two. If Dungarvan were to win on Sunday, I dont know what to expect in Munster. Three years ago when they won the Intermediate Championship, they played Douglas at Fraher Field and were well beaten on the day. I dont know how Douglas have faired in Cork since then. Perhaps someone in the know can fill me in.

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 3:40pm

NHL Fixtures for 2012 are drafted -

A real rotten one to start with, Clare in Ennis. Dosent get any easier after that. Be surprised if we hold onto Div. 1 status next year

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23 (7.0 unless stated)
Div 1A: Cork v Tipperary.

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 24 (2.0 unless stated)
Div 1A: Clare v Waterford, Galway v Kilkenny.
Div 1B: Carlow v Wexford, Dublin v Offaly, Limerick v Antrim.
Div 2A: Kerry v Westmeath, Derry v Wicklow, Kildare v Laois.
Div 2B: Down v Meath, Mayo v Roscommon, Armagh v London.
Div 3A: Fermanagh v Tyrone, Donegal v Monaghan, Fingal v Louth.

SATURDAY, MARCH 9 (7.0 unless stated)
Div 1A: Tipperary v Kilkenny
Div 2B: London v Down (2.0).

SUNDAY, MARCH 10 (2.0 unless stated)
Div 1A: Waterford v Cork, Clare v Galway (2.30).
Div 1B: Antrim v Dublin, Offaly v Wexford, Limerick v Carlow (2.30).
Div 2A: Wicklow v Kildare (1.0), Westmeath v Derry (1.0), Laois v Kerry.
Div 2B: Roscommon v Armagh (1.0), Meath v Mayo.
Div 3A: Louth v Fermanagh (1.0), Tyrone v Donegal (1.0), Monaghan v Fingal.
Div 3B: Leitrim v Longford (1.0), Warwickshire v Sligo.

SATURDAY, MARCH 16
Div 1B: Wexford v Antrim (2.0), Dublin v Limerick (5.15).
Div 2A: Derry v Kildare (5.30).
Div 2B: Down v Roscommon (2.0), Mayo v Armagh (5.30), Meath v London (5.30).
Div 3A: Fermanagh v Donegal (2.0), Tyrone v Fingal (5.15).

MONDAY, MARCH 18 (2.0 unless stated).
Div 1A: Cork v Clare, Kilkenny v Waterford, Galway v Tipperary.
Div 1B: Carlow v Offaly.
Div 2A: Kerry v Wicklow, Westmeath v Laois.
Div 3A: Louth v Monaghan.

SUNDAY, MARCH 24 (2.0 unless stated)
Div 1A: Clare v Kilkenny, Galway v Cork (2.30), Waterford v Tipperary (2.30).
Div 1B: Carlow v Antrim (1.0), Wexford v Dublin, Offaly v Limerick.
Div 2A: Kildare v Kerry (1.0), Wicklow v Westmeath (1.0), Derry v Laois.
Div 2B: Roscommon v Meath (1.0), Mayo v London (1.0), Armagh v Down.
Div 3A: Fingal v Fermanagh, Monaghan v Tyrone, Donegal v Louth.
Div 3B: Longford v Warwickshire (1.0), Sligo v Leitrim.

SUNDAY, MARCH 31 (3.0 unless stated).
Div 1A: Tipperary v Clare, Kilkenny v Cork, Waterford v Galway.
Div 1B: Antrim v Offaly, Limerick v Wexford, Dublin v Carlow.
Div 2A: Laois v Wicklow, Westmeath v Kildare, Kerry v Derry.
Div 2B: London v Roscommon, Meath v Armagh, Down v Mayo.
Div 3A: Donegal v Fingal, Fermanagh v Monaghan, Tyrone v Louth.
Div 3B: Warwickshire v Leitrim, Longford v Sligo.

zol 2 · 10-10-2012 5:46pm

Personally i can see Dungarvan giving a good a/c of themselves but i fear for their half forward line as they don't seem to have real ball winners in there and will struggle against the DLS half backs. Dillon and Mullane will obviously take watching and i feel D/van will need to keep it tight with Nagle having to do a lot of defending and cutting down on the space that these boys thrive on. On the plus side for them,IF they can get at the DLS full back line it could pay handsomely as this seems to be where opposing teams seem to be having the most joy as Lismore and Mt.Sion have proven.For anyone who was at both minor semi finals on monday night they would have seen Ryan Donnelly in flying form but he will/must expect a more stronger,physical battle from the DLS backs. Just wondering does anyone think DLS might change Stevie Brenner from the goal keeping position? He hasn't exuded confidence in some of his performances to date-in my opinion!!!

Cake Man · 10-10-2012 6:26pm

Tough fixtures for the 2013 NHL alright but I wouldn't be relegating us so quickly. Fair enough, no game there where you could say we'll definitely win it but at least we have 3 home games, unlike the last two years where we only had 2 IIRC. Also, we'll be going in on a steady footing unlike this year where we had the whole upheaval in the middle of the league.
Best chance of a win possibly home to Cork and we should target Tipp or Galway at home to win aswell. Clare away could go either way also. Not getting ahead of myself by any means, just think we shouldn't write ourselves off before a ball is pucked.

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 7:33pm

Cake Man wrote: »

Tough fixtures for the 2013 NHL alright but I wouldn't be relegating us so quickly. Fair enough, no game there where you could say we'll definitely win it but at least we have 3 home games, unlike the last two years where we only had 2 IIRC. Also, we'll be going in on a steady footing unlike this year where we had the whole upheaval in the middle of the league.
Best chance of a win possibly home to Cork and we should target Tipp or Galway at home to win aswell. Clare away could go either way also. Not getting ahead of myself by any means, just think we shouldn't write ourselves off before a ball is pucked.

Last year we survived a relegation play off by winning just 2 games, the head to head with Galway saved us and the fact we only had to face a poor second string dublin side in a do-or-die game. Cant see that happening next year will really need 3 wins. The Clare game is a must win and then target 2 home wins to be safe.

Hslaw · 10-10-2012 8:52pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Cake Man wrote: »

Tough fixtures for the 2013 NHL alright but I wouldn't be relegating us so quickly. Fair enough, no game there where you could say we'll definitely win it but at least we have 3 home games, unlike the last two years where we only had 2 IIRC. Also, we'll be going in on a steady footing unlike this year where we had the whole upheaval in the middle of the league.
Best chance of a win possibly home to Cork and we should target Tipp or Galway at home to win aswell. Clare away could go either way also. Not getting ahead of myself by any means, just think we shouldn't write ourselves off before a ball is pucked.

Last year we survived a relegation play off by winning just 2 games, the head to head with Galway saved us and the fact we only had to face a poor second string dublin side in a do-or-die game. Cant see that happening next year will really need 3 wins. The Clare game is a must win and then target 2 home wins to be safe.

I disagree with you there about a poor Dublin side I was at that game and if I remember they had almost all their big names at it

Mountainlad · 10-10-2012 9:29pm

Hslaw wrote: »

I disagree with you there about a poor Dublin side I was at that game and if I remember they had almost all their big names at it

Yeah but they didn't try at all.

deisebhoy17 · 10-10-2012 9:32pm

Hslaw wrote: »

I disagree with you there about a poor Dublin side I was at that game and if I remember they had almost all their big names at it

they had about 3 or 4 regulars the rest was pretty much their second team and they were v poor. I know that wasnt our fault, we played well and won anyway

hardybuck · 11-10-2012 12:44pm

I see that the county board are hoping to have the football job filled by November, and that it is likely to be an internal candidate.

Does anyone have any info on what's happening there, and please don't tell me it's Jackson again...?

solarith · 11-10-2012 12:51pm

hardybuck wrote: »

I see that the county board are hoping to have the football job filled by November, and that it is likely to be an internal candidate.

Does anyone have any info on what's happening there, and please don't tell me it's Jackson again...?

No way

blue note · 11-10-2012 1:59pm

I have looked through the thread but couldn't find an answer. What is this 3-3-1 that everyone is talking about?

deisefolife · 11-10-2012 2:02pm

we have a tough year ahead of us next year lads...the league has become like the championship no one wants to lose games any more,

our first game against Clare,at home. i can see Davy relishing this one.

and then we have a tough championship, i personally think the qualifiers would be our best route try to get as many games under our belt, forget about a Munster title were still in a rebuilding process, thats just my thoughts on it....

Mountainlad · 11-10-2012 2:11pm

blue note wrote: »

I have looked through the thread but couldn't find an answer. What is this 3-3-1 that everyone is talking about?

De La Salle have set an aim for themselves to win the County (3rd County title), The Munster (3rd) and the all-ireland (their 1st, hence 3-3-1). Fair enough I guess.

The 3-3-1, however, is a reference to the fact that they've gone and got jackets or hoodies or something with those numbers on them. An ill-advised move in my opinion.

deisefolife · 11-10-2012 2:25pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

De La Salle have set an aim for themselves to win the County (3rd County title), The Munster (3rd) and the all-ireland (their 1st, hence 3-3-1). Fair enough I guess.

The 3-3-1, however, is a reference to the fact that they've gone and got jackets or hoodies or something with those numbers on them. An ill-advised move in my opinion.

lets hope it doesn't blow up in their face,or they'll end up being the laughing stock of the county.

Black Suir · 11-10-2012 3:37pm

Ken McGrath has stood down as a selector with the Waterford Senior Hurling team. Its reported that he has a new job and would find it hard to combine both going into 2013.

His replacement will have to come from the West of the County as Sean Cullinane is already a selector and come from the City area.

The last part above is only trying to get people going. It should not matter where the new selector is from so long as he is the best person for the job.

deisebhoy17 · 11-10-2012 3:49pm

Black Suir wrote: »

Ken McGrath has stood down as a selector with the Waterford Senior Hurling team. Its reported that he has a new job and would find it hard to combine both going into 2013.

His replacement will have to come from the West of the County as Sean Cullinane is already a selector and come from the City area.

The last part above is only trying to get people going. It should not matter where the new selector is from so long as he is the best person for the job.

Thats disappointing. Any Waterford dressing room can only be all the better for Ken being in it.

Its important to get the right man in now. I dont care where hes from but he needs to be there on merit and not to fill an agenda

DeiseX · 11-10-2012 4:04pm

Possible candidates - Joxer O' Connor? A.N. Other....?

hardybuck · 11-10-2012 4:05pm

Black Suir wrote: »

Ken McGrath has stood down as a selector with the Waterford Senior Hurling team. Its reported that he has a new job and would find it hard to combine both going into 2013.

His replacement will have to come from the West of the County as Sean Cullinane is already a selector and come from the City area.

The last part above is only trying to get people going. It should not matter where the new selector is from so long as he is the best person for the job.

News broke last week. His replacement will have to be the best available candidate rather regardless of where they come from.

deisefolife · 11-10-2012 4:42pm

personally i think ken came in a bit too soon, as he played with a lot of the current team, and play against them in club hurling,

he'll be back in a few years

blue note · 11-10-2012 5:09pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

De La Salle have set an aim for themselves to win the County (3rd County title), The Munster (3rd) and the all-ireland (their 1st, hence 3-3-1). Fair enough I guess.

The 3-3-1, however, is a reference to the fact that they've gone and got jackets or hoodies or something with those numbers on them. An ill-advised move in my opinion.

Thanks. I don't think it really matters other than being slightly embarrassing for them. It reminds me a little of Dublin's little black book or whatever it was a few years back.

alllcounty · 11-10-2012 5:34pm

DeiseX wrote: »

Possible candidates - Joxer O' Connor? A.N. Other....?

Joxer would be a very good candidate but did the players ask for a forward's coach last year which is why Ken was brought in and would this affect who is selected this time around.

Cake Man · 11-10-2012 5:45pm

Joxer would be good but is he not still with Carraigtwohill in Cork?

zol 2 · 11-10-2012 6:20pm

I'll tell you now Joxer won't take the job so any other suggestions?

Mountainlad · 11-10-2012 7:30pm

zol 2 wrote: »

I'll tell you now Joxer won't take the job so any other suggestions?

Is that you jockser? :P

hurler on de ditch · 11-10-2012 8:02pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

Is that you jockser? :P

ill gladly do it and pay all my own expenses

deisebhoy17 · 11-10-2012 8:48pm

zol 2 wrote: »

I'll tell you now Joxer won't take the job so any other suggestions?

you tell us?????

zol 2 · 11-10-2012 11:30pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

you tell us?????

I don't honestly know who will take it but i can tell you joxer won't. No doubt he would be a good selection but it's not for him at this stage of his coaching career.

zol 2 · 11-10-2012 11:34pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

Is that you jockser? :P

Unfortunately no its not joxer here! I couldn't imagine the same fella taking time out like us poor lost souls to be debating the ups and downs of our hurlers on message boards such as this!

Hslaw · 13-10-2012 10:33am

It's the eve of the county final and I can't wait, I'm hoping for a Dungarvan win,

Once its a good game on both sides ill settle for that, were still a young side and were only making our mark the future is bright for us :-)

Straight Talker · 13-10-2012 6:01pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

Right, hold it there now. The tools to dismantle most teams in the Country? Who outside of Waterford have DLS ever dismantled? This year they've hammered the small teams, but when it's put up to them they look quite beatable (example, Fourmile, Lismore and Mount Sion).

It's this kind of thinking that has DLS struggling through their last two games, there is a sense of entitlement there underlined by the 3-3-1 thing. You could say that too much of a deal is being made of it, but personally I just feel that when the chips are down the attitude is more likely to be "Why aren't we winning" rather than "We need to do something about this". Hoping they do get caught out on Sunday, they need a lesson.

I think there's is a trophy entitlement mentality to De Le Salle.Isn't there some silly arrogant slogan written on their shirts this year.I have nothing against Waterford gaa in fact i like to see Waterford win when their not playing Cork but i have issues with De La Salle.I long for the day when Mount Sion are back as the number 1 team in Waterford City.Mount Sion of course are the great Johns Keanes club.If only a few of the De La Salle lads could be more like John who was an absolute gentleman.btw I think Waterford will beat Clare to setup another Cork and Waterford match.Tipp are the best team in munster by a distance but at the same time i wouldn't be too surprised if a Cork or Waterford man will be collecting the munster trophy.It would also be great to see Limerick in the munster final as well.John Allen is a much better manager than he's given credit for!

Straight Talker · 13-10-2012 6:13pm

deisefolife wrote: »

lets hope it doesn't blow up in their face,or they'll end up being the laughing stock of the county.

I hope it does blow up in their face.:D

Third midfielder · 13-10-2012 10:30pm

Straight Talker wrote: »

I think there's is a trophy entitlement mentality to De Le Salle.Isn't there some silly arrogant slogan written on their shirts this year.I have nothing against Waterford gaa in fact i like to see Waterford win when their not playing Cork but i have issues with De La Salle.I long for the day when Mount Sion are back as the number 1 team in Waterford City.Mount Sion of course are the great Johns Keanes club.If only a few of the De La Salle lads could be more like John who was an absolute gentleman.btw I think Waterford will beat Clare to setup another Cork and Waterford match.Tipp are the best team in munster by a distance but at the same time i wouldn't be too surprised if a Cork or Waterford man will be collecting the munster trophy.It would also be great to see Limerick in the munster final as well.John Allen is a much better manager than he's given credit for!

De La Salle's mentality has made them more successful in Munster than any other Waterford club team. So they have ambitions the win Munster again and win an All Ireland. I would have thought that a bit of arrogance would go down well with a Cork poster seeing that have always had that in spades.

culbaire666 · 13-10-2012 10:31pm

Glad to see Waterford hurling in the city
is as united as ever

hurler on de ditch · 14-10-2012 8:41am

culbaire666 wrote: »

Glad to see Waterford hurling in the city
is as united as ever

Dungarvan by 7 points

cornerboy · 14-10-2012 9:39am

Good luck to Dungarvan from across the bridge.

The blue blaa · 14-10-2012 10:05am

Good Luck to the Dungarvan player whose stupid comments he made last Monday in fraher field to the DLS manager will most definitely come back an haunt him I'm 100% positive his team mates would not be happy, he has single handedly given the biggest rile up to the city team,
He must have nothing between his ears god love him,

Here's hoping we see a tasty county final it's a smashing day out,
Up The Deise

Cake Man · 14-10-2012 10:37am

Here's to two good games today (Geraldines v Butlerstown in the curtain raiser), hopefully we get two crackers. Please God it'll stay dry.
Still think DLS will come through but not by a lot. I'm taking Dungarvan +6pts at even money, think it's a great bet.
Best of luck to the 4 teams today.

deisebhoy17 · 14-10-2012 12:00pm

anyone know if the waterford final is on tg4 today?

Cake Man · 14-10-2012 12:14pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

anyone know if the waterford final is on tg4 today?

Ah I'd say if they were showing any hurling, it'd be the Tipp county final between Sars and Drom.

deisebhoy17 · 14-10-2012 1:04pm

Cake Man wrote: »

Ah I'd say if they were showing any hurling, it'd be the Tipp county final between Sars and Drom.

yea that would be more attractive to neutral viewers alright. am living away didn't manage to get home to see it raging now!! Best of luck to dungarvan anyway

Straight Talker · 14-10-2012 4:55pm

Third midfielder wrote: »

De La Salle's mentality has made them more successful in Munster than any other Waterford club team. So they have ambitions the win Munster again and win an All Ireland. I would have thought that a bit of arrogance would go down well with a Cork poster seeing that have always had that in spades.

What you call arrogance i call self belief.Maybe if Waterford had some of it they might have landed a few all irelands by now.:DI also never heard of a Cork team taking to the pitch with silly arrogant slogans on their shirt.Anyway Dungarvan Abu.:)

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