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Tragic yet worrying scenes in waterford last night

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  • #102
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I hope the bus driver and all passengers were ok.
    As for the two who stole the ambulance. Hopefully the got a good battering when they crashed

    Isn't it unfortunate other ambulances were available. Imagine the irony if they'd died because they stole the only ambulance in the area.


  • #103
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    lighterman wrote: »
    Quote me where it says they deliberately went to this house to terrorise anyone


    I think we can all agreed that it is a complete and utter co incidence, that a day or two after a colleague in their gang was arrested that this group happened to, by chance I must add. To be accidentally throwing glass bottles which slipped out of their hands at of all houses that of a senior garda.

    To cap off this hilarious sequence of co incidences when this senior garda appeared from this house which they had accidentally targeted. One of the gang members dropped a bottle which accidentally hit the senior garda on the head.


  • #104
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    mikom wrote: »
    Yeah, they were probably canvassing on behalf of the "I'll fuckin' glass ya" party".

    Or they could have been acting the clown outside the house and was confronted by the owner who incidentally was a guard


  • #105
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    lighterman wrote: »
    Or they could have been acting the clown outside the house and was confronted by the owner who incidentally was a guard

    ....then bottled said guard when he came out.....but boys will be boys


  • #106
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    ....then bottled said guard when he came out.....but boys will be boys

    Was there some independent witness to this or something?


  • #107
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    ....then bottled said guard when he came out.....but boys will be boys

    That seems to be the case but who said the deceased did it. Just because he a group where 1 individual threw a bottle does not make him guilty or a scum bag and certainly does not deserve to die.

    If on the other hand he did throw the bottle he deserved a severe sentence but again not death


  • #108
    TheDoctor
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    drumswan wrote: »
    Was there some independent witness to this or something?

    No but we believe the guard didn't hit himself on the back of the head with a bottle so by process of elimination we can conclude that it was the gang. Unless you want to throw out some theories as to how it happened?


  • #109
    TheDoctor
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    lighterman wrote: »
    That seems to be the case but who said the deceased did it. Just because he a group where 1 individual threw a bottle does not make him guilty or a scum bag and certainly does not deserve to die.

    If on the other hand he did throw the bottle he deserved a severe sentence but again not death

    Guilty by association. No one forced the deceased man to go to the house last night.


  • #110
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I think we can all agreed that it is a complete and utter co incidence, that a day or two after a colleague in their gang was arrested that this group happened to, by chance I must add. To be accidentally throwing glass bottles which slipped out of their hands at of all houses that of a senior garda.

    To cap off this hilarious sequence of co incidences when this senior garda appeared from this house which they had accidentally targeted. One of the gang members dropped a bottle which accidentally hit the senior garda on the head.

    Jaysus imagine that.you seem to be right
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-senior-garda-not-deliberately-targeted-in-waterford-incident-where-young-man-died-630708.html


  • #111
    Blindside87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Blindside87


    drumswan wrote: »
    Its the usual little internet fantasy-violence circlejerk from boards' keyboard warriors, plenty of daily mail reading types on here love to revel in this stuff

    Not talking about this incident specifically in the following but:

    It's your attitude that has criminals getting free benefits and support even after getting convicted. It's not always someone else's fault...sometimes people are just bad people. Sure sometimes it is a poor up bringing etc. but everyone has a concious so everyone is responsible for their actions good or bad.


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  • #112
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Zulu wrote: »
    Sigh. This young man, went with a group of other men to a familys home to terrorise them at night time. Children should be able to sleep safely in their homes.
    While I'm sure you would have the same sympathetic attitude if they came at night to your house, to your children, I certainly wouldn't.
    They, when confronted, didn't choose to run off. They threw a bottle at the fathers head. That man could be in the morgue this morning, but thankfully he isn't. These men didn't care less for his life or the life of his wife or family, and you have have the audacity to question our sympathies; to ask us to look into the mirror? Pffft. Jog on.

    That's all well and good. But for everyone to be in the thread circle-jerking at the fact that this lad, who did something wrong, died after it is pathetic!

    His death is not an appropriate "punishment" for what actually went on. All your hyperbole isn't going to change that!


  • #113
    Blindside87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Blindside87


    Also like to point out I don't think anyone said "he deserved death" but some people said they have no sympathy...there's a bit of a difference.


  • #114
    TheDoctor
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    lighterman wrote: »
    Jaysus imagine that.you seem to be right
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-senior-garda-not-deliberately-targeted-in-waterford-incident-where-young-man-died-630708.html


    Yes and like my comment they too are also speculating. "may not have been"


  • #115
    TheDoctor
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    Blindside87 wrote: »
    Also like to point out I don't think anyone said "he deserved death" but some people said they have no sympathy...there's a bit of a difference.

    A massive difference that some simpletons have yet to grasp


  • #116
    drumswan
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    Blindside87 wrote: »
    Not talking about this incident specifically in the following but:

    It's your attitude that has criminals getting free benefits and support even after getting convicted. It's not always someone else's fault...sometimes people are just bad people. Sure sometimes it is a poor up bringing etc. but everyone has a concious so everyone is responsible for their actions good or bad.
    Wtf are you banging on about?

    Some gurrier kid was killed and all anyone seems interested is cheerleading his death on the internet. Nobody seems in the least bit interested in the circumstances around how he died.


  • #117
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    lighterman wrote: »
    That seems to be the case but who said the deceased did it. Just because he a group where 1 individual threw a bottle does not make him guilty or a scum bag and certainly does not deserve to die.

    Based on this single isolated incident probably not. But what do-gooders always seem to forget is that if this guy is associating with these thugs, and throwing bottles at a garda's house, this wasn't his first rodeo. I wouldn't be surprised if it is later revealed that he has an extensive criminal history. And I have no doubt he would have continued his life of crime, possibly resulting in death to somebody.

    Would it be right for the state to execute him for these crimes, no. But If he managed to die as a result of them he won't get the slightest bit of sympathy from me. Its one less criminal for society to worry about.


  • #118
    TheDoctor
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    drumswan wrote: »
    Wtf are you banging on about?

    Some gurrier kid was killed and all anyone seems interested is cheerleading his death on the internet. Nobody seems in the least bit interested in the circumstances around how he died.

    I look forward to someone pointing out this cheerleading that is going on


  • #119
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    A young guy died, a life lost that could have been rewarding and productive. Haven't we all done things in our youth that could be considered anti-social?


  • #120
    TheDoctor
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    old hippy wrote: »
    A young guy died, a life lost that could have been rewarding and productive. Haven't we all done things in our youth that could be considered anti-social?

    Not assault no


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  • #121
    Zulu
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    That's all well and good. But for everyone to be in the thread circle-jerking at the fact that this lad, who did something wrong, died after it is pathetic!
    Whats pathetic is the posters defending this person.
    To accuse people of "circle-jerking" because they point out the bloody obvious is pathetic. (The obvious being: people aren't sad to see bad things happen bad people.)
    His death is not an appropriate "punishment" for what actually went on. All your hyperbole isn't going to change that!
    His death wasn't a punishment. He wasn't punished by anyone (other that fate). Get over yourself and get over your moral outrage. Take comfort in the fact that this person won't ever assault you, in/at - for the pedants - your own home, with your children.

    Christ on a bike.


  • #122
    TheDoctor
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    Hit everything on the head there Zulu, can close this thread now. No more can be added


  • #123
    allthedoyles
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    BnwdqjjIUAE2iiD.jpg:large

    Paul Byrne of TV3 posted this photo of the railings with spikes where incident occurred .


  • #124
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Not assault no

    Never in a fight in your teens, no?


  • #125
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    old hippy wrote: »
    Never in a fight in your teens, no?
    No, not one involving a group of my friends going around to a family home at attacking it, no.


  • #126
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hit everything on the head there Zulu, can close this thread now. No more can be added

    No, this thread should remain open as testament to man's inhumanity to each other. Be it those who allegedly assault others and those who gleefully rejoice in the deaths of others.


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  • #127
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    allthedoyles wrote: »
    BnwdqjjIUAE2iiD.jpg:large

    Paul Byrne of TV3 posted this photo of the railings with spikes where incident occurred .

    Bizarre.


  • #128
    TheDoctor
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    old hippy wrote: »
    Never in a fight in your teens, no?

    Yes a few verbal altercations alright.


  • #129
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Zulu wrote: »
    No, not one involving a group of my friends going around to a family home at attacking it, no.

    What they allegedly did was at the more extreme end of teen behaviour but then so is the joyful reaction to the tragic death here.


  • #130
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Zulu wrote: »
    Whats pathetic is the posters defending this person.

    Well, if this is directed at me, I never defended him.
    To accuse people of "circle-jerking" because they point out the bloody obvious is pathetic. (The obvious being: people aren't sad to see bad things happen bad people.)

    It's a little bit more than people not being sad, people are taking great pleasure in the fact that this lad had his life taken away because he did something which, while bad, is hardly worth dying over.
    His death wasn't a punishment. He wasn't punished by anyone (other that fate). Get over yourself and get over your moral outrage. Take comfort in the fact that this person won't ever assault you, in/at - for the pedants - your own home, with your children.

    Christ on a bike.

    It'd be quite difficult for him to assault your kids if they are on the back of that really high horse you're on!

    Also, who said he assaulted anyone? You don't know if he assaulted anyone.


  • #131
    drumswan
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    old hippy wrote: »
    What they allegedly did was at the more extreme end of teen behaviour but then so is the joyful reaction to the tragic death here.

    You are ruining the torture fantasy circlejerk


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  • #132
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    No sympathies and have no need to look at myself in the mirror
    Society will be better off without him
    Shame the other 3 are still around to carry out more trouble in the future

    well this simpleton(as you put it) is happy to take this as meaning he deserved. why is it a shame they are still around.where would you want them to go
    Blindside87 wrote: »
    Also like to point out I don't think anyone said "he deserved death" but some people said they have no sympathy...there's a bit of a difference.


  • #133
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    drumswan wrote: »
    You are ruining the torture fantasy circlejerk

    Never mind, there'll be another one round soon :)


  • #134
    SHANAbert
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭SHANAbert


    Hearing that one of the guys arrested is a relative to the man who died in his cell last summer in Dungarvan Garda station.


  • #135
    anewme
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    old hippy wrote: »
    A young guy died, a life lost that could have been rewarding and productive. Haven't we all done things in our youth that could be considered anti-social?

    Like hang around outside peoples houses and throwing bottles at them when they come out?

    You have to be having a laugh?

    Don't live near Waterford. Don't know anyone involved. Feel sorry for the Garda and his family. No one should be hanging around confronting people with bottles in the early hours. Up to no good. Zero sympathy.


  • #136
    TheDoctor
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    lighterman wrote: »
    well this simpleton(as you put it) is happy to take this as meaning he deserved. why is it a shame they are still around.where would you want them to go

    To prison for a long time which obviously wont happen, slap on the wrist and out on the street again to cause more havoc.


  • #137
    TheDoctor
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    Its concerning that some people have just resulted to saying circle jerk and high horse and some sort of way to make a point


  • #138
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    To prison for a long time which obviously wont happen, slap on the wrist and out on the street again to cause more havoc.

    Course ya did.Thats exactly what you meant.:rolleyes:
    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Its concerning that some people have just resulted to saying circle jerk and high horse and some sort of way to make a point

    You've a lot to be concerned about.God help ya


  • #139
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    lighterman wrote: »
    Course ya did.Thats exactly what you meant.:rolleyes:



    You've a lot to be concerned about.God help ya

    Then its good that there's one less scrote out on the street for me to worry about so isn't it?


  • #140
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    lighterman wrote: »
    well this simpleton(as you put it) is happy to take this as meaning he deserved. why is it a shame they are still around.where would you want them to go


    Why do you keep posting in bold? Is what you have to say really that much more important than what everyone else in the thread says?


  • #141
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Also, who said he assaulted anyone? You don't know if he assaulted anyone.
    I'm no big city lawyer, but it's worth remembering that assault is the intent to cause bodily harm.

    All I know is that he choose to terrorise an innocent family in the middle of the night. Was confronted by the father. Fled like a coward. Injured himself on railings while fleeing. And is now dead.

    ...and there are some that are morally outraged we don't find that tragic; that we don't sympatise with this thug. :rolleyes:


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  • #142
    old hippy
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    anewme wrote: »
    Like hang around outside peoples houses and throwing bottles at them when they come out?

    You have to be having a laugh?

    Don't live near Waterford. Don't know anyone involved. Feel sorry for the Garda and his family. No one should be hanging around confronting people with bottles in the early hours. Up to no good. Zero sympathy.

    I assure you, I find nothing in this thread amusing.


  • #143
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Zulu wrote: »
    All I know is that he choose to terrorise an innocent family in the middle of the night. Was confronted by the father. Fled like a coward. Injured himself on railings while fleeing. And is now dead.
    How do you know that out of interest?


  • #144
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Zulu wrote: »
    I'm no big city lawyer, but it's worth remembering that assault is the intent to cause bodily harm.

    All I know is that he choose to terrorise an innocent family in the middle of the night. Was confronted by the father. Fled like a coward. Injured himself on railings while fleeing. And is now dead.

    ...and there are some that are morally outraged we don't find that tragic; that we don't sympatise with this thug. :rolleyes:

    So you can prove that he was intent to cause bodily harm and that he was terrorising the family.


  • #145
    TheDoctor
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    drumswan wrote: »
    How do you know that out of interest?

    Which part are you struggling to accept?


  • #146
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Why do you keep posting in bold? Is what you have to say really that much more important than what everyone else in the thread says?

    Not at all. I do it when I'm multi quoting.I apologise if I've caused some offence or annoyance to you


  • #147
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Which part are you struggling to accept?
    Im struggling to understand how this version of events are so easily accepted. Who says this is what happened, the Garda in question?


  • #148
    Nino Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    lighterman wrote: »
    So you can prove that he was intent to cause bodily harm and that he was terrorising the family.

    None of us can prove anything. If you think the media are making all of this up, why did you open the thread with a link to a media article?


  • #149
    TheDoctor
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    drumswan wrote: »
    Im struggling to understand how this version of events are so easily accepted. Who says this is what happened, the Garda in question?

    Please put forward a version of events that would be more plausible at this moment in time


  • #150
    Ranchu
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    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Then its good that there's one less scrote out on the street for me to worry about so isn't it?

    You have vague details of this story. You're pleased this lad is dead and you're worried about scrotes on the street? I'd be worried about something else if I was you.


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  • #151
    bucketybuck
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    old hippy wrote: »
    A young guy died, a life lost that could have been rewarding and productive. Haven't we all done things in our youth that could be considered anti-social?

    I've tried and tried and I simply cannot remember that time in my youth where me and a gang of lads went to throw bottles at the police. Funny that.


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