Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

Half time, Dublin 0-6 DCU 1-03.

The midfield of O'Mahony and Carthy are poor, for 30 minutes solid I don't remember recovering possession from a breaking ball or kick out. It's an area I far too often see myself commenting on in the last few years though I know it's only pre-season.

Whelan, McMahon and McMenamin are playing well off each other with some good chances at the net. Costello has had some wild shots from afar costing us a few points. Nice to get a look at the likes of Lowndes and Dawson though the latter has been quiet

Yeah, the wheels kinda fell off there in the last 10 minutes. Oh well, at least the players get to experience something they have probably never seen before. A pissed off Jim Gavin.

naughtb4 wrote: »

Really poor last 10, backs got really really isolated and such a stupid thing to do by Flynner, should know better

What did you see? It happened right in front of me and I didn't see a thing. The ref sure did though, straight up to him and a straight red. Guessing he threw a dig?

I think Rory O'Carroll can feel hard done by for the black card. From what I saw it was a 50-50 ball and he went in with the hands and the DCU player came out the victor but was tripped. It was a foul and I expected a yellow. It don't think it was deliberate and that's key here - the refs are using the black card instead of yellows in some situations. It changed our match, Sean George had been replaced already because he wasn't having a fantastic match and he was forced to come back on after O'Carroll was dismissed, leaving us at a disadvantage. Flynner didn't help matters at all either.

In the 20 minutes Daniel Watson was on after replacing Kev he got the ball 3 times (shot twice, one goal mouth wide and one point). The quantity and quality of ball was in the last 20 minutes was very poor.

I hope Jim tears them out of it, they should have had that game sewn up and shored up the defence to stop leaking goals. A bad end to the O'Byrne Cup this year.

At least we've next Sunday's Walsh Cup match to look forward to in the Neller against UCD, who beat Carlow today

TouchingVirus wrote: »

What did you see? It happened right in front of me and I didn't see a thing. The ref sure did though, straight up to him and a straight red. Guessing he threw a dig?

I think Rory O'Carroll can feel hard done by for the black card. From what I saw it was a 50-50 ball and he went in with the hands and the DCU player came out the victor but was tripped. It was a foul and I expected a yellow. It don't think it was deliberate and that's key here - the refs are using the black card instead of yellows in some situations. It changed our match, Sean George had been replaced already because he wasn't having a fantastic match and he was forced to come back on after O'Carroll was dismissed, leaving us at a disadvantage. Flynner didn't help matters at all either.

In the 20 minutes Daniel Watson was on after replacing Kev he got the ball 3 times (shot twice, one goal mouth wide and one point). The quantity and quality of ball was in the last 20 minutes was very poor.

I hope Jim tears them out of it, they should have had that game sewn up and shored up the defence to stop leaking goals. A bad end to the O'Byrne Cup this year.

At least we've next Sunday's Walsh Cup match to look forward to in the Neller against UCD, who beat Carlow today

Yeah was a dig to the ribs,DCU guy didnt make a meal of it but the punch was thrown. Think it was more of a wild swing than anything else but very bery stupid. I am sure worse were thrown during the two pile ups, but still think he deserved to go, you cannot do that

Feeling thoroughly left out here, wondering if I need to get better glasses for the next match.

Anyone got a Dublin line-up from yesterday?

ProudDUB wrote: »

Was the player in question on last years panel for the O'Byrne Cup and the league, or is he a new introduction this year?

I didn't see the incident PD, but saw the fallout - I'd be reluctant to call out the player not having witnessed the initial provocation .. cheers

DoctaDee wrote: »

I didn't see the incident PD, but saw the fallout - I'd be reluctant to call out the player not having witnessed the initial provocation .. cheers

Don't want you to call out the player boss. The players are entitled to have their good names protected, until something is proven to be true. I was just curious as to whether or not it was one of the new lads, or an older hand. Based on your comment about his being young and he'll learn, I presumed it was one of the newer ones. After all the fuss over the McBrearty allegations last year, I can't see one of the more experienced players letting himself be open to more allegations like these.

Stoner wrote: »

Was that Carthy or Martin, was it the point from distance after a nice dummy from number 9?

I was referring to the Carthy point at the beginning of the second half against Louth. He was the No 9.

Funnily enough, in the DCU game, the withdrawel of Carthy and O'Mahony seemed to make all the difference in the last ten minutes. Neither had been great in the first half, but I thought Carthy was very effective in the second half, and I also thought O'Mahony had his best 20 minutes in a Dublin jersey before he was taken off.

Once they went off, we could seem to get the ball out of our half of the pitch.

Would be great to see Alan Brogan back playing, although he'll have his hands full getting back in the Dublin team.

Who cares once you get to see the games ?

RTÉ never show the league. Some of it will be on Setanta as well.

Slattsy wrote: »

Aint always feasable lad.

Yeah, but if you can't go then you should just be glad of any league coverage even if you can't listen to the commentary. You could also listen to commentary for live matches on Dub City FM

Dublin beat UCD 2-20 to 2-15.

Some people might say that the GAA is a live vibrant part of our native culture while the Irish language is a dead irrelevant part of our past. It's not how I feel but it's how many do. Hence the dissatisfaction of many games being exclusively broadcast live by TG4.

Jason Whelan hit with 8 week ban.

Delighted for him, hope he never pulls on a Dubs shirt again.

Could be not possible to ban the guy for more than 8 weeks, there's no specific rule for biting so they just have to try and fit it in under something else that might have an upper limit on ban length.

I think the guy should probably get another chance alright but barely. The slightest indiscretion in the future and have him out forever.

Frankie Lee wrote: »

It is refreshing to see the reaction of Dublin fans too, biting has no place in the GAA

Did you expect us to close ranks? You can't defend the indefensible and that's exactly what biting is. It's disgusting, dangerous and there is no place for it in any sport. I said it when the allegations came to light last year after Ballybofey, if found guilty the player should be dropped.

I don't want somebody who bites representing my county until he cops himself on and serves an appropriate punishment. 8 weeks is not long enough, it might be what the Leinster CCC thought could make stick or the max they could impose but the Dublin County Board can do a whole lot more and honestly I hope they do. Let him sit out the whole season for club & county and have a think about what madness made him bite an opponent, it's not the Colosseum and he's no gladiator.

If an example has to be made, let it be now. I don't want allegations to dog the team in the coming years because somebody hadn't the stones to discipline players when it started. 3 allegations in 3 years is bad enough, even if only one person has been found guilty.

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Did you expect us to close ranks? You can't defend the indefensible and that's exactly what biting is. It's disgusting, dangerous and there is no place for it in any sport. I said it when the allegations came to light last year after Ballybofey, if found guilty the player should be dropped.

I don't want somebody who bites representing my county until he cops himself on and serves an appropriate punishment. 8 weeks is not long enough, it might be what the Leinster CCC thought could make stick or the max they could impose but the Dublin County Board can do a whole lot more and honestly I hope they do. Let him sit out the whole season for club & county and have a think about what madness made him bite an opponent, it's not the Colosseum and he's no gladiator.

If an example has to be made, let it be now. I don't want allegations to dog the team in the coming years because somebody hadn't the stones to discipline players when it started. 3 allegations in 3 years is bad enough, even if only one person has been found guilty.

Whatever the findings, I think it's pretty obvious at least two out of the three were guilty.

Boom__Boom wrote: »

8 weeks for biting by an inter-county player sends a terrible message in terms of a deterrent to others to act likewise.

Personally I would have no problem with any player found guilty of biting being given a lifetime ban from the GAA.

I think the message was sent out loud and clear by those behind the scenes for Dublin who, when the player involved was likely to be in the mix for the Championship panel, fought tooth and nail to keep the charges from sticking in each of the last two years. Laying the blame for not sending out a message at the CCCC's door is pretty unfair.

We all know the incident last season wasn't made up and I doubt too many people will take too long to figure out why McBrearty refused to turn up for the hearing. TBH I almost feel worse that Whelan has been offered up as a sacrificial lamb because he was unlikely to be involved in the summer time anyway.