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National Hurling League 2015 General Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    why aren't limerick one of the teams in the running to win the all ireland this year after last years displays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    why aren't limerick one of the teams in the running to win the all ireland this year after last years displays.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Nice goal by O'Donnell!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Great to have the Ballyhale Shamrock players back.

    Nice goal by TJ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Hard to believe this is a relegation final, serious game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Half time in tullamore tipp 1 14 offaly 4 pts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Borders no.2


    Clare should kick themselves for not at least getting a draw out of that. Trying to run the ball out too often on a day not conducive to doing it is a high risk strategy. 2 or 3 ball needlessly put over the sideline late on under no pressure. A game like that is hugely beneficial to both sides though certainly more than for Tipp playing Offaly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Waterford wiping Galway out of it. Wexford beating Cork by a decent margin too.


    Makes Limerick's performance even more disappointing although Dublin have clearly targeted the league to some extent. But our intensity was way off, Waterford's backs are well on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Tipp were winning by 13 points at half-time, but Seamus Callanan got a straight red early in the 2nd half and Cathal Barrett also got sent off later on. They only scored 2 points in the 2nd half, and Offaly scored the last 7 points of the game but Shane Dooley missed a penalty too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    have league semis been double headers in recent years? if single games will they be neutral venue or toss for home advantage?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭letowski


    Gosh the Seamus Callinan red was ridiculous decision. What was the ref seeing there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    have league semis been double headers in recent years? if single games will they be neutral venue or toss for home advantage?

    Was a double header in Limerick last year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same this year considering the teams involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭JamieK


    letowski wrote: »
    Gosh the Seamus Callinan red was ridiculous decision. What was the ref seeing there.

    Surely it will be overturned on appeal? Appalling decision.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Dont think tipp are appealing it.offaly lad should be ashamed of himself ,you wouldnt see a south american soccer player go down as quick


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭toxicity234


    buggy beag wrote: »
    Dont think tipp are appealing it.offaly lad should be ashamed of himself ,you wouldnt see a south american soccer player go down as quick
    Just wanted to pick up on this. Callinan sending off was never a send off but The Offaly Full back took a slap on the hand . hurt like hell but was just a slap when he wasn't expecting it and he went down he wasn't trying to get anyone send off.
    There was no Offaly players running around try to get anyone send off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Noel mcgrath got a bad slap on da hand first half he stayed on his feet why would you drop to the ground if you got a slap on the hand its not your leg that was hit.same player broke a hurley on callanan last year as he was scoring a goal callanan didnt drop like a sack of spuds.offaly players aim was to get him sent off job done and he should be very proud of himself


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭toxicity234


    buggy beag wrote: »
    Noel mcgrath got a bad slap on da hand first half he stayed on his feet why would you drop to the ground if you got a slap on the hand its not your leg that was hit.same player broke a hurley on callanan last year as he was scoring a goal callanan didnt drop like a sack of spuds.offaly players aim was to get him sent off job done and he should be very proud of himself

    This is Shortt 1st year Playing at any Level for Offaly. He some man to be able to hit Callanan from the stands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Semi-finals are a double header in Nowlan Park.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Ah right sorry my mistake thought it was the same fella.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    look the worse slap on the hand Micheal Rice got nearly lost it, MR Maher from tipp done it tipp are no angels stones glass houses comes to mind, anyway tipp were to win this by 20 points or more, blame the ref because it was only 6 if they had won by more there wouldn't have been a word about Callanans red Barrett was off with 3 minutes left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Antrim 1-18 Kerry 2-16


    Kerry are promoted to Division 1B next year. That's great for them, next season they'll be up against the likes of Clare and Limerick. Very disappointing for Antrim but I suppose you can't say they deserved to stay up, that's the cut-throat nature of a promotion/relegation system and it would just weaken the competition if a team who aren't good enough to stay up were kept there. Need to regroup and get promoted from 2A now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    great to see somebody from 2A beat the system, Antrim and others had the benefit of it before, won't be so easy for them to come back up. relegation should be the same between all divisions, not giving teams in 1B an extra chance to stay up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Delighted to see that Kerry won. Fully deserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    delighted for kerry but i think they will find it tough but its good for them to be in 1B in 2016.

    I dont see Antrim even getting past the group stages of the leinster championship this year


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Delighted that we finally got up to Division 1B,no doubt we will find it tough to in that division next year but I would hope that we would be competitive enough at the same time.

    The goal all year has been getting back to Croke Park in June for the Christy Ring Final and winning it this year,after winning Division 2A last year it was disappointing to lose the final of the Christy Ring last year,

    It would be great to have our lads playing 1B in the League and in the Leinster Championship qualifier group next year,

    It would be a great boost to hurling in the county.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Is Brendan Cummins still the goal keeping coach in Kerry?

    Well done to Kerry in getting closer to their illustrious neighbours when it comes to the small ball!

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Fair play to Kerry for getting promoted. Great to see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Mehapoy


    blue note wrote: »
    Fair play to Kerry for getting promoted. Great to see.

    Yes great to see a bit of variety of counties coming up, Kerry have been knocking on the door for awhile, have done well at schools level. I know they'll play limerick away, I wonder will they have Clare at home? They're another county that would benefit from a properly graded minor and u21 inter county setup...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Mehapoy wrote: »
    Yes great to see a bit of variety of counties coming up, Kerry have been knocking on the door for awhile, have done well at schools level. I know they'll play limerick away, I wonder will they have Clare at home? They're another county that would benefit from a properly graded minor and u21 inter county setup...

    Huge challenge for them to stay in the division, but that's what they need to do if they're going to keep improving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Shane nolans a fine hurler:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭DaveR1


    It would be great to have our lads playing 1B in the League and in the Leinster Championship qualifier group next year,

    It would be a great boost to hurling in the county.

    Why not the Munster Championship????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    DaveR1 wrote: »
    Why not the Munster Championship????

    Team promoted from the Christy Ring go into the Leinster Championship, as of now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    DaveR1 wrote:
    Why not the Munster Championship????


    Probaly because theirs qualifying rounds in leinster that antrim had to play in before they could play in the leinster proper


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    DaveR1 wrote: »
    Why not the Munster Championship????

    It's actually for the best that they play in Leinster. With all due respect to them, there isn't a county in Munster that they'd have a chance against, whereas in Leinster there are a couple.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    blue note wrote: »
    It's actually for the best that they play in Leinster. With all due respect to them, there isn't a county in Munster that they'd have a chance against, whereas in Leinster there are a couple.

    Exactly,we are no where near strong enough to take part in the Munster,I would hope we would be competitive in that Qualifier group that's where we need to be,we need to get in there and try and establish ourselves as a Liam McCarthy team and be in that group with Laois,Antrim,Westmeath and Carlow on a yearly basis,

    But before all that can happen we have to go one better this year and win this years Christy Ring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Exactly,we are no where near strong enough to take part in the Munster,I would hope we would be competitive in that Qualifier group that's where we need to be,we need to get in there and try and establish ourselves as a Liam McCarthy team and be in that group with Laois,Antrim,Westmeath and Carlow on a yearly basis,

    But before all that can happen we have to go one better this year and win this years Christy Ring.

    Except there is a play-off again this year, isn't there? So Kerry would not only have to win the Christy Ring, they'd also have to beat the likes of Westmeath or Antrim again. Which is certainly not impossible, but makes it more difficult.

    And London are back down in the Christy Ring now after putting up a decent display in the Championship last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Except there is a play-off again this year, isn't there? So Kerry would not only have to win the Christy Ring, they'd also have to beat the likes of Westmeath or Antrim again. Which is certainly not impossible, but makes it more difficult.

    And London are back down in the Christy Ring now after putting up a decent display in the Championship last year.

    They got rid of that play off at congress so this years Christy Ring winners will now get automatic promotion to that qualifier group for the 2016 Leinster Championship


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭zombieHanalei


    If Kerry were to finish in the top two of the Leinster qualifier group they would take their place in the Munster quarter final and not Leinster. I'd love to see it happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    They got rid of that play off at congress so this years Christy Ring winners will now get automatic promotion to that qualifier group for the 2016 Leinster Championship

    Interesting, and is there relegation from that group?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Interesting, and is there relegation from that group?

    I think so automatic relegation to the Christy Ring Cup from this year on

    Proposal 10: Remove the Promotion/Relegation playoff involving the bottom team in the Leinster Round-Robin competition and the Christy Ring Cup champion. Instead the bottom Leinster Round-Robin team would be relegated to the Christy Ring Cup while the Christy Ring Cup champion would be automatically promoted as a reward for winning the competition.

    http://www.the42.ie/hurling-2020-proposals-1867054-Jan2015/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Can see the div 1 final being a Tipperary vs cork affair. I think there just a head of Waterford and dublin. Waterford had a good run hopefully they can bring that form into the championship

    The all ire semis will be Tipperary vs kilkenny ( leinster champions) and Clare vs cork (Munster champions) Imo. Galway and Limerick to lose out in the quarters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Tipp's injuries will make it tighter than many expect on Sunday imo. Dublin will probably be eager to put up a better showing than in Croke Park against Cork.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭JamieK


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Can see the div 1 final being a Tipperary vs cork affair. I think there just a head of Waterford and dublin. Waterford had a good run hopefully they can bring that form into the championship

    The all ire semis will be Tipperary vs kilkenny ( leinster champions) and Clare vs cork (Munster champions) Imo. Galway and Limerick to lose out in the quarters

    Missing Callanan, Cathal Barrett, Kieran Bergin and now Noel McGrath. Arguably our 4 best performers in this league. It's a 50/50 game Sunday.

    Hope Noel makes a speedy recovery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    JamieK wrote: »
    Missing Callanan, Cathal Barrett, Kieran Bergin and now Noel McGrath. Arguably our 4 best performers in this league. It's a 50/50 game Sunday.

    Hope Noel makes a speedy recovery.
    Best of luck to noel, hope he makes a full and speedy recovery
    A great hurler great attuide for the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Callinan cleared for Sunday, could be the winning of the game for Tipp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Two interesting games today.

    First off, Dublin beat Limerick fairly handily but Limerick were very poor, there was never a huge amount of intensity and Schutte was allowed do what they wanted.

    Cork have better forwards imo but had to dig deep against Wexford to beat them. I think Dublin are focusing on the league more, but it should be a good game all the same.



    And a goal for Schutte already! Wow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Cork way off the pace. Looks like they were expecting a repeat performance from Dublin.

    Rushe having far more influence further out from goal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭letowski


    The Dublin attack is very potent again today, very good aerially. They look in great shape going into the summer. Players like Schutte and Dillon have really stepped up to be good forwards at this level.

    Long way to go in this game nonetheless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Cork fighting for it a bit better now but serious lead to give up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭letowski


    Cork's backline is in all sorts of trouble here, 2-15 is a massive score to ship in 35 mins.


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