Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

Khuitlio · 14-09-2015 5:27pm

Bussywussy wrote: »

Cough* possible New Canada route *cough

Any more information?

Bussywussy · 14-09-2015 9:42pm

Khuitlio wrote: »

Any more information?

No nothing yet!! 2 330s and a 757 going to EI possibly

aviator7 · 14-09-2015 11:22pm

On the 757 side of things, N903TB will be on the way to Shannon from Texas tonight, coming out of storage. Ex Finnair OH-LBO, sister ship of the current Aer Lingus 757's.

Maybe it has nothing to do with Aer Lingus / Air contractors, but it looks likely.

dogcat · 15-09-2015 2:10am

Maybe it was already mentioned but flights to Abu Dhabi will be reduced from twice a day to once a day from January. It's expected to be back at two from the summer again.

BZ · 15-09-2015 11:50am

aviator7 wrote: »

On the 757 side of things, N903TB will be on the way to Shannon from Texas tonight, coming out of storage. Ex Finnair OH-LBO, sister ship of the current Aer Lingus 757's.

Maybe it has nothing to do with Aer Lingus / Air contractors, but it looks likely.

This aircraft is not for air contractors. It operates as a corporate aircraft for L-3 communications and is just night stopping in SNN. Pure coincidence.

Nibs05 · 15-09-2015 3:50pm

dogcat wrote: »

Maybe it was already mentioned but flights to Abu Dhabi will be reduced from twice a day to once a day from January. It's expected to be back at two from the summer again.

Yes, it will be a 777-300er

keithclancy · 21-09-2015 1:42pm

IngazZagni wrote: »

Easyjet schedule 25-30 minute turnarounds at AMS generally. Taxi time is included in flight block times or at least should be. AMS has a dedicated low cost pier which Ryanair will no doubt use. Unlike somewhere like Madrid where Ryanair schedule 35 minute turnaround times ( due to air bridges) and often have 20 minute taxi times too.

I think this will make a huge dent on Aer Lingus's yield on the AMS route. A huge amount of pax on this route are price sensitive. Equally this may damage Ryanairs Eindhoven route as many people used this as a low cost way of connecting to Amsterdam.

I was expecting more than 1 new route from FR but a 15% or over 1 million pax increase is not too shabby.

In my experience anyway, there aren't too many that are flying to Eindhoven with Amsterdam as their final destination anyway since the train adds on 40 euros return pp + a time factor.

Mostly Germans/Belgians/Dutch from Brabant/Limburg and also Irish people that are living/working here.

Also many Germans just living over the border choose Eindhoven to get to Dublin as Weeze is no longer servicing that route.

midfield dynamo · 23-09-2015 7:39pm

Any idea when EI are announcing their summer schedule (And anticipated two new TA routes)?

Jamie2k9 · 23-09-2015 11:38pm

midfield dynamo wrote: »

Any idea when EI are announcing their summer schedule (And anticipated two new TA routes)?

Would expect the T/A routes in the next 3-4 weeks at the latest.

Tenger · 23-09-2015 11:55pm

midfield dynamo wrote: »

Any idea when EI are announcing their summer schedule (And anticipated two new TA routes)?

It was supposed to be around now. but an EI mate tells me it could be end of October....apparently they are expecting Willie to be present for the route announcement.

24-09-2015 2:44pm

http://m.firstpost.com/world/ireland-visit-short-but-its-historic-says-prime-minister-narendra-modi-in-dublin-2443716.html

So Dublin to Mumbai or Delhi ?

Interesting years ahead with new Asian routes to possibly Hong Kong, Beijing and India. Hopefully not just Aer Lingus doing these, it would be nice to have an extra bit of colour on the ramp !

Noxegon · 24-09-2015 4:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

http://m.firstpost.com/world/ireland-visit-short-but-its-historic-says-prime-minister-narendra-modi-in-dublin-2443716.html

So Dublin to Mumbai or Delhi ?

I would have thought Bangalore more useful given the number of tech companies here with Indian outposts.

smurfjed · 24-09-2015 5:21pm

I would have thought Bangalore

It would all depend on the connections, 26000 people in Ireland aren't enough to justify a long haul route, therefore they need to get onward traffic to Asia. Looking at fares from London to Bangkok, AI actually show up as the cheapest but not the fastest, so it might work if they get the hub city correct.

Thats one of the reasons why I believe that Aer Lingus should never look too far east.

IRLConor · 24-09-2015 6:39pm

Noxegon wrote: »

I would have thought Bangalore more useful given the number of tech companies here with Indian outposts.

If you did that you'd be giving up a bunch of major Chinese airports which are reachable via DEL/BOM plus the routes to Sydney and Melbourne from Delhi.

On first look from this amateur, the smartest move would be Delhi. As far as I can tell Indonesia is the only big country east of India that isn't directly connected from there.

Noxegon · 24-09-2015 9:56pm

IRLConor wrote: »

If you did that you'd be giving up a bunch of major Chinese airports which are reachable via DEL/BOM plus the routes to Sydney and Melbourne from Delhi.

I can't see myself using Air India for a connection to Australia/Asia for as long as there's the likes of Etihad/Emirates doing one stop. What can they offer the consumer that airlines in the sandpit can't?

IRLConor · 24-09-2015 10:02pm

Noxegon wrote: »

I can't see myself using Air India for a connection to Australia/Asia for as long as there's the likes of Etihad/Emirates doing one stop. What can they offer the consumer that airlines in the sandpit can't?

I wouldn't see myself doing it either, but if they were cheaper they may get a chunk of traffic from the more price conscious end of the market.

Noxegon · 25-09-2015 7:03am

IRLConor wrote: »

I wouldn't see myself doing it either, but if they were cheaper they may get a chunk of traffic from the more price conscious end of the market.

I can't imagine they'll get much. Emirates in particular tends to be very cheap for what it is – we have people going from DUB-CPT via DXB because it's the cheapest option.

vonbarracuda · 25-09-2015 9:35am

Surely now as the economy picks up there's a market for some sort of direct service to Vegas from DUB

25-09-2015 9:46am

vonbarracuda wrote: »

Surely now as the economy picks up there's a market for some sort of direct service to Vegas from DUB

Probably but the issue in Ireland is we only have limited charter operations, Air Contractors and Thomson both with a single 737 each (300/800). We don't have any long haul charter airlines based here unlike the UK. Which has lots of long haul routes from regional airports.

Hopefully next years Thomson 787 flights will be a success and we see a based 787 in 2017 which might do more destinations. There has to be a market here for long haul charter flights I can't imagine there isn't.

Idbatterim · 25-09-2015 9:54am

Surely now as the economy picks up there's a market for some sort of direct service to Vegas from DUB

I really hope so, this is the first new long haul route I would like to see... Even From say mid March - mid September, would be fantastic, it wouldnt need to be every day, 3 or 4 times a week would be perfect!

crisco10 · 25-09-2015 2:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Probably but the issue in Ireland is we only have limited charter operations, Air Contractors and Thomson both with a single 737 each (300/800). We don't have any long haul charter airlines based here unlike the UK. Which has lots of long haul routes from regional airports.

Hopefully next years Thomson 787 flights will be a success and we see a based 787 in 2017 which might do more destinations. There has to be a market here for long haul charter flights I can't imagine there isn't.

I remember getting a direct flight to CPT back in the early noughties. A300 I believe. Went out and back once a week and was packed. Would love to see that again...

25-09-2015 3:28pm

crisco10 wrote: »

I remember getting a direct flight to CPT back in the early noughties. A300 I believe. Went out and back once a week and was packed. Would love to see that again...

It was an LTU A330 a 200 I think, positioned in from Düsseldorf and then flew to the Canaries for fuel and on to Cape Town before returning direct.

I read an article there earlier this year which said Cape Town had and was suffering a decline in traffic but were hoping to developed it back upwards. A seasonal Cape Town flight could be a goer in years to come.

Noxegon · 25-09-2015 5:01pm

DUB-CPT would be nice right enough... I'm expected to fly the cheapest option when I need to go there, which is currently via DXB

carrotcake · 01-10-2015 8:23am

Blue Air have announced flights to Cluj-Napoca, Romania (CLJ), starting next summer.

No sign yet of a timetable, or whether it truly is a direct route or just a stop-off (as they did in 2011).

carrotcake · 02-10-2015 12:33pm

carrotcake wrote: »

Blue Air have announced flights to Cluj-Napoca, Romania (CLJ), starting next summer.

No sign yet of a timetable, or whether it truly is a direct route or just a stop-off (as they did in 2011).

Looks like it won't be a stop-off. Flights are scheduled to begin on 4 June, and will be every Tuesday and Saturday.

Idbatterim · 02-10-2015 1:21pm

belfast has a few flights to vegas over the summer! In gods name could an airline not start them up between dublin and vegas for either just peak season or from mid march - september?!

02-10-2015 5:13pm

CityJet have indicated a minimum of two and a maximum of 3 (2 more likely) new routes between Dublin and France in 2016.

06-10-2015 9:21am

Posted at 0730GMT 06OCT15

Turkish carrier SunExpress in summer 2016 season is introducing service to Ireland, with the introduction of Antalya – Dublin route. This seasonal service operates once a week from 19MAY16 to 22SEP16, with 1 weekly flight.
XQ586 AYT0355 – 0710DUB 738 4
XQ587 DUB0800 – 1455AYT 738 4

Source:airlineroute

roundymac · 06-10-2015 11:14am

Idbatterim wrote: »

belfast has a few flights to vegas over the summer! In gods name could an airline not start them up between dublin and vegas for either just peak season or from mid march - september?!

Peak season, not too many L/H aircraft available IMO.
Open to correction.:)

basill · 07-10-2015 10:13am

If there was a market for it then I am sure the AL commercial department would have approved Vegas. It was under serious consideration for the past couple of years. In order to establish a new route it has to have yield and therefore be profitable. Frankly I can't see business class being full nor cargo. Loco types on gambling holidays or hens do not an airline make. Compare this with an LAX or SFO where clear demand exists and there are better routes to be focussing on. The gamblers have many flight options 50mins away or else fly to JFK/BOS/ORD and connect.

aviator7 · 07-10-2015 11:34pm

I can't link - not enough posts.

But anyway, Aer Lingus and Bradley airport in Connecticut are very close to cutting a deal for flights starting summer 2016 by all accounts.

It's been mentioned in a few articles as a possibility... word on the street is saying it's going ahead.

So it's looking like three new long haul routes for Aer Lingus in 2016.

JCX BXC · 07-10-2015 11:38pm

Bradley? I've never even heard of the place!

Irish Steve · 07-10-2015 11:43pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Bradley? I've never even heard of the place!

Makes 2 of us. Half way between New York and Boston.It's an "international" airport, so maybe the advantage would be that as a "domestic" flight, it would be possible to get in and out again more rapidly than at the other places.

Seems a strange choice unless there's a company looking for a lot or seats to Ireland on a regular basis, which would justify a service there.

man98 · 07-10-2015 11:48pm

I remember the mayor of Bradley offering EI millions in subsidies to fly there a few months back? I laughed it off, but a low frequency 757 service would be seen as a "foot in the door" route to other airlines I suppose.

Pat Dunne · 07-10-2015 11:50pm

This has been on the back burner since late last year. Apparently there was mention of a $5,000,000 carrot/enticement been waved about by the locals.
Bradley is about 90 miles distance from BOS

Flying Ireland
http://flyinginireland.com/2015/02/aer-lingus-expands-its-transatlantic-services-for-summer-2015/
Irish Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/connecticut-governor-needs-luck-o-the-irish-to-tie-down-aer-lingus-deal-1.2178501
Hartford Business
http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/20141112/NEWS01/141119959/airport-authority-wooing-irish-airline

newacc2015 · 07-10-2015 11:50pm

Irish Steve wrote: »

Makes 2 of us. Half way between New York and Boston.It's an "international" airport, so maybe the advantage would be that as a "domestic" flight, it would be possible to get in and out again more rapidly than at the other places.

Seems a strange choice unless there's a company looking for a lot or seats to Ireland on a regular basis, which would justify a service there.

Looking at on Wiki, its has excellent connections eg Atlanta, Mexico, Canada. It sounds a bit like a US version of a Ryanair airport. So the airport fees might be a lot cheaper than JFK for Aer Lingus to justify it

aviator7 · 07-10-2015 11:50pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Bradley? I've never even heard of the place!

Neither have I to be honest!

The state have offered to insure an airline against any losses for a route to Europe to try and get a transatlantic carrier in. There were reports of that for a couple of years now according to my quick google search. I'm guessing a deal like that also includes a few sweeteners with regards to landing and ground handling charges.

Interesting to see how well it does.

I'd say Steve is bang on there with it being predominantly americans flying on the route. Which would work in Aer Lingus' favour with the strong dollar if it goes ahead.

Irish Steve · 08-10-2015 12:01am

Just had a quick look, Bradley has about 3 Million passengers a year, but very little of that is true International traffic.

If it is true, strange choice, though there are a reasonable number of direct connections to a significant number of places.

L1011 · 08-10-2015 10:20am

Theres some financial firm in Hartford who were offering to block book some seats to BDL ages ago - that may still be on the table

basill · 08-10-2015 10:26am

The 757 is the route prover and as I understand it there is room in the schedule for BDL. So the strategy appears to be to take the cash on offer and give it a try. If it works out all well and good. If not then it will at least break even and will die a slow and quiet death. I think BDL is more a cargo hub, hence the low annual pax figures for an international airport. Not sure how much cargo the 757 can take plus baggage but no doubt that figures into the mix as well.

munchkin_utd · 08-10-2015 10:33am

Irish Steve wrote: »

Just had a quick look, Bradley has about 3 Million passengers a year, but very little of that is true International traffic.

If it is true, strange choice, though there are a reasonable number of direct connections to a significant number of places.

if they rebranded it Ryanair style to "New England Central" or other imaginative name then you might get people using it.

For a fly drive holiday it seems to be a great location to be honest.

Jamie2k9 · 08-10-2015 10:41am

Dublin-Pisa (3 weekly) and Murcia (4 weekly), that's the last 5 route announcements that EI have decided to give FR some company.

Also Montpellier (2 weekly)

EICVD · 08-10-2015 2:06pm

Bradley had a transatlantic flight before, Northwest to AMS on a 757, I think Delta only flew it for one season after the takeover if they flew it at all!

Noxegon · 08-10-2015 4:30pm

Bradley would suit me very well...

Skuzchad · 09-10-2015 2:29am

Anybody know if there is a possibility if Aer lingus might do a Dublin to Houston direct service in 2016 ? Also whats T/A stand for ??

Noxegon · 09-10-2015 6:42am

Trans-Atlantic

09-10-2015 7:15am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Dublin-Pisa (3 weekly) and Murcia (4 weekly), that's the last 5 route announcements that EI have decided to give FR some company.

Also Montpellier (2 weekly)

210,000 extra seats.

09-10-2015 7:17am

Skuzchad wrote: »

Anybody know if there is a possibility if Aer lingus might do a Dublin to Houston direct service in 2016 ? Also whats T/A stand for ??

Houston, I wouldn't have thought was top of their list for next year, more likely is Miami, Philly and probably Dallas.

If we had an oil industry then yes Houston would be preferred over Dallas but Aer Lingus will most likely be linking Hubs first.

rubberdiddies · 09-10-2015 1:17pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Dublin-Pisa (3 weekly) and Murcia (4 weekly), that's the last 5 route announcements that EI have decided to give FR some company.

Also Montpellier (2 weekly)

i got a bit excited when i read yesterday about these new routes so decided to check out one of them that i fly to regularly and where their only competition from Dublin is Ryanair.

lo and behold, AL are consistently dearer every day. The few days I checked, they are an average of €78 dearer per return journey (works out at approx 40% dearer)

Ryanairs prices have been the same for the last week or so on this route, so AL launched with significantly higher prices.

So much for competition.

Jamie2k9 · 09-10-2015 1:46pm

rubberdiddies wrote: »

i got a bit excited when i read yesterday about these new routes so decided to check out one of them that i fly to regularly and where their only competition from Dublin is Ryanair.

lo and behold, AL are consistently dearer every day. The few days I checked, they are an average of €78 dearer per return journey (works out at approx 40% dearer)

Ryanairs prices have been the same for the last week or so on this route, so AL launched with significantly higher prices.

So much for competition.

It takes a few days for Aer Lingus prices to settle down, they are always released really high. Give it a few days.

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