Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

Chrisita · 30-01-2014 9:30pm

These have had an incredibly positive effect on me, multi stain bifidus in my case.

lukesmom · 30-01-2014 11:18pm

Chrisita wrote: »

These have had an incredibly positive effect on me, multi stain bifidus in my case.

What have???

Chiquitita · 31-01-2014 12:03am

I think they mean probiotics?

Having the following:
dry mouth, feel like my head is really heavy, shaky, being even more silent than unusual, my thoughts are still there but im not getting the panic...

Anyone else experiencing this?

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 12:12am

Felt normal there for a few hours, but the dread, worry and sick feeling has started to come back.

LanaFey · 31-01-2014 12:42am

Crying again. Just feel so bloody lonely

Chiquitita · 31-01-2014 12:47am

Thinking of you both...try get some sleep xx

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 8:36am

How did things get this bad, I'm in a very dark place this morning. Feels like this will never end and this problem will never go away

LanaFey · 31-01-2014 10:32am

Got to sleep eventually but was awake at 5.30am, heart pounding, completely panicked. In work now feeling exhausted and sick to my stomach. Really wish I could just go home and stay in bed for the day.

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 11:20am

LanaFey wrote: »

Got to sleep eventually but was awake at 5.30am, heart pounding, completely panicked. In work now feeling exhausted and sick to my stomach. Really wish I could just go home and stay in bed for the day.

Why don't you just go home sick?

I had a mini breakdown this morning and called into work sick.

Gremlinertia · 31-01-2014 11:24am

Krypton, speaking for myself i'm on a warning for calling in sick, despite having doctor's notes. Depends on the job i guess. How are you today?

LanaFey, could you sneak to the bathroom or somewhere for fifteen minutes to calm yourself, maybe breathing exercises or something?

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 11:45am

This is my first time being out sick in this job, I'm there about 3.5 months. My boss seemed grand when I talked to him.

I'm so-so today. Really thought I was on the mend last night for an hour or two, felt normal again. Things started to go bad again towards bed time and woke up just before 5am feeling like there was no point going on.

Gremlinertia · 31-01-2014 11:49am

kryptonmight wrote: »

This is my first time being out sick in this job, I'm there about 3.5 months. My boss seemed grand when I talked to him.

I'm so-so today. Really thought I was on the mend last night for an hour or two, felt normal again. Things started to go bad again towards bed time and woke up just before 5am feeling like there was no point going on.

Ah i see, i get mixed up a bit with who's doing what..

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 11:53am

No problem.

I don't get it. This time last week the thing I'm worried about wasn't much of a concern at all, I wasn't giving it much thought. How can one thread on boards.ie completely derail me so much?

Gremlinertia · 31-01-2014 11:58am

I'm gonna say doctor google syndrome - the horror stories online make your usual logic feel flawed..

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 12:02pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I'm gonna say doctor google syndrome - the horror stories online make your usual logic feel flawed..

Ugh, tell me about it. Trying not to google certain things at the moment as I know there's a chance it could make things worse.

I just don't get how I let myself start thinking this way and let it get so out of control.

LanaFey · 31-01-2014 12:04pm

Too anxious to ask my boss if I can go home sick. Feeling sick because I'm anxious. Funny how that works

Much as I'd love to go home I'd just be doubling Monday's workload for myself

Better to be here at least being somewhat productive.

Cheers for the suggestion Gremlinertia, the bathroom is becoming my second office at this rate! Went there for a few minutes just to calm myself down, it's helped a bit. I've also fired off a few mundane texts to people just to occupy my mind and convince myself that the entire world does not in fact hate me.

No reply from the two therapists my GP recommended to me

so I've started looking at other options in the hope of getting an appointment next week, really can't wait any longer. Just wish this process didn't involve making phone calls, I hate talking on the phone.

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 12:09pm

Has anyone here ever called someplace like the Samaritans, or Pieta house or any place like that?

LanaFey · 31-01-2014 12:11pm

I can vouch for Pieta House, rang them about three years ago and did counselling through them. Really turned my life around at the time. They are great and will never turn away anyone in crisis. Definitely give them a ring.

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 12:13pm

LanaFey wrote: »

I can vouch for Pieta House, rang them about three years ago and did counselling through them. Really turned my life around at the time. They are great and will never turn away anyone in crisis. Definitely give them a ring.

Do you have to go see them? I looked at their website and it seemed like they kind of want you to show up and bring someone along and I don't think I want to do either.

LanaFey · 31-01-2014 12:15pm

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure as it was a few years back but I think their focus is on meeting with them there. You don't have to bring someone with you though. It still might be worth giving them a call.

Chiquitita · 31-01-2014 1:58pm

Krypton im going to see someone there the last couple of weeks and I find the whole thing really relaxing. My therapist said theres nothing they havent heard before so you can literally tell them anything. I rang and made an appointment for myself and got one for the next day...

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 2:14pm

I have to travel home tomorrow and I am off on Monday. It's possible the issue I am so stressed about will be gone soon, but then again it might not. Even if it does go away, its obvious I need some sort of counselling/CBT and possibly medication.

stinkle · 31-01-2014 2:25pm

even if the issue does go away you're stressed right now and it's having a bad effect on you. hopefully talking to someone will help. I found psychotherapy useful in working out how and why I cope the way I do sometimes

Hugo Stiglitz · 31-01-2014 4:54pm

kryptonmight wrote: »

I have to travel home tomorrow and I am off on Monday. It's possible the issue I am so stressed about will be gone soon, but then again it might not. Even if it does go away, its obvious I need some sort of counselling/CBT and possibly medication.

kryptonmight,

If the issue is work related, could you talk to someone there about it? Like to see if you could be excused from it or what have you

kryptonmight · 31-01-2014 5:05pm

Thanks Hugo.

Its a personal matter involving a girl so not work related. I think I'm going phone one of those places. I just fell like the stress will never end.

Hugo Stiglitz · 31-01-2014 5:16pm

kryptonmight wrote: »

Thanks Hugo.

Its a personal matter involving a girl so not work related. I think I'm going phone one of those places. I just fell like the stress will never end.

Sorry to hear that kryptonmight.

Fingers crossed it goes well for you.

Regarding people to talk to, have you looked into anything like the Aware group meetups?

Chiquitita · 31-01-2014 8:59pm

Evening time...

lukesmom · 31-01-2014 11:01pm

Such a crappy day with zero energy and zero motivation blah.

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-02-2014 12:04am

lukesmom wrote: »

Such a crappy day with zero energy and zero motivation blah.

Kinda the same here too. It'll only cause more stress down the line too.

Chiquitita · 01-02-2014 1:51am

First night in a couple of weeks that I havent been able to sleep. Head in a spin

handbagmad · 01-02-2014 2:04am

No energy feeling very unwell. Really don't feel guilty about couch hogging for a while. A few days to shut the world out.

Chiquitita · 01-02-2014 2:06am

I cant even concentrate enough to watch tv. Eff it

Esel · 01-02-2014 2:09am

Chiquitita wrote: »

First night in a couple of weeks that I havent been able to sleep. Head in a spin

A technique I find helpful:

Get comfortable!

Breathe using your diaphragm but (this bit is important) when your belly is going out (therefore when you are breathing in), think 'OUT'.

When breathing out (belly going in), think 'IN'.

So, the thought is the opposite of the breath direction. It is easier if you just remember that you think 'OUT' when your belly is going out, and 'IN' when your belly is going in.

If you lose the flow or get distracted by extraneous thoughts, just start again.

Sounds simple, but lots of effective techniques are...

There is another related technique which I can't remember - I think it is a three-stage process. If anyone knows what it is, please post it here!

Chiquitita wrote: »

I cant even concentrate enough to watch tv. Eff it

Just saw this. TV in bedroom = bad idea, in general.

Chiquitita · 01-02-2014 2:12am

Thank you!

Going to do this until I fall asleep...hope you're having a good night!

handbagmad · 01-02-2014 6:05am

Can't sleep,

my dog though has no problem he is keeping me entertained
He's havin little doggie dreams growling and running in his sleep so cute
Love my little crazy furbaby
He really keeps me going sometimes
Unconditional love

kryptonmight · 01-02-2014 10:56am

Feeling a tiny bit better but afraid to say so or embrace it in case things get worse.

Can I just shut my brain off for a few weeks?

Gremlinertia · 01-02-2014 12:49pm

Storm has made work very difficult today. Lightening has messed up some systems. Was feeling all sorts of stressed yesterday so now I have chest pains. I'll never know if I'm having a heart attack!.

Oh well hope most of ye don't have to leave the house today. :-)

Chiquitita · 01-02-2014 8:04pm

Hello all

Rothko · 01-02-2014 9:50pm

Today hasn't been too good. It's manageable though. I'm just finding it a bit more difficult to block out all the negative thoughts. I'll get through it though.

My daily dosage of Lexapro has gone up to 15mg from 10mg and I'm just wondering what other poster's experiences have been with this. I know we're not supposed to give medical advice on here but I'm not looking for any. The doctor said that the side effects shouldn't be any worse from such a small increase, which I'd expect, but I'm just looking to hear from someone who has had first hand experience with it.

Lightbulb Sun · 01-02-2014 9:56pm

Suas11 wrote: »

Today hasn't been too good. It's manageable though. I'm just finding it a bit more difficult to block out all the negative thoughts. I'll get through it though.

My daily dosage of Lexapro has gone up to 15mg from 10mg and I'm just wondering what other poster's experiences have been with this. I know we're not supposed to give medical advice on here but I'm not looking for any. The doctor said that the side effects shouldn't be any worse from such a small increase, which I'd expect, but I'm just looking to hear from someone who has had first hand experience with it.

Honestly, it's individual and varies from person to person. Could be completely different in the way that it effects you, the next person, person after that etc.

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-02-2014 9:57pm

Suas11 wrote: »

Today hasn't been too good. It's manageable though. I'm just finding it a bit more difficult to block out all the negative thoughts. I'll get through it though.

My daily dosage of Lexapro has gone up to 15mg from 10mg and I'm just wondering what other poster's experiences have been with this. I know we're not supposed to give medical advice on here but I'm not looking for any. The doctor said that the side effects shouldn't be any worse from such a small increase, which I'd expect, but I'm just looking to hear from someone who has had first hand experience with it.

I haven't been on that drug at all but I can't comment on it specifically. Other ones I've been on when getting the doses increased I've found that it can sometimes upset my stomach, dry mouth and emotionally can be a little bit edgier if that makes any sense.

Chiquitita · 01-02-2014 10:01pm

Im not on it either but dry mouth is one of the side effects of mine also

Ocean Blue · 02-02-2014 11:30am

Esel wrote: »

Venlafaxine has a very short half-life, so tapering off is a long-term and slow process. If going below 75mg, what dose has your doctor stipulated? If it is too sharp a decrease, your pharmacist should be able to make up an intermediate dose for you to try. So, instead of going from 75mg to 37.5mg for instance, they could make 60/62.5mg capsules, then 50mg capsules.

Does your discontinuation schedule include varying between previous (e.g. 75mg) dose and new lower (e.g. 37.5mg) dose on an increasing pattern? That is, when stepping lower, you take your first lower dose of 37.5mg on the first day, next day back to 75mg, next two days 37.5mg, next day 75mg, next three days 37.5mg. Not in that exact pattern maybe, but I hope you know what I mean. This is the preferred method, afaik.

Also, while the discontinuation effects of venlafaxine are fairly extreme, they are relatively short-lived (about a week in total from a cold-turkey stop?).

From what I have read, it's all about the neurotransmitter systems having to up-regulate to normal after having been artificially modulated for so long.

Again, this is personal opinion only. I am not a doctor.

A word of warning on the practicality of this advice. After 14 years of working in Irish dispensaries I have yet to come across any community pharmacy that had the capability to manufacture capsules in the way you describe. Production standards, IMB standards have all but removed extemporaneous dispensing from the pharmacy repertoire other than one or two very basic methods.

Gremlinertia · 02-02-2014 4:53pm

Can't sleep. Gah. Nightshift later. Oh well..

kryptonmight · 02-02-2014 5:55pm

Felt like I was getting better yesterday. Now back to feeling like I'm in hell. Will this ever stop.

Gremlinertia · 02-02-2014 6:06pm

The cyclical nature of it is a sickener at times.

kryptonmight · 02-02-2014 6:10pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

The cyclical nature of it is a sickener at times.

I didn't know it went like that. This is a particularly bad spell for me and I'm experiencing lows I've never hit before.

Hugo Stiglitz · 02-02-2014 6:11pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

The cyclical nature of it is a sickener at times.

Well said G.

Gremlinertia · 02-02-2014 6:30pm

kryptonmight wrote: »

I didn't know it went like that. This is a particularly bad spell for me and I'm experiencing lows I've never hit before.

I doubt it does for everyone, but seems to for the majority, periods of ok followed by periods of not so f**king ok and back to ok again (even if it seems like ok will never return, it does, to complete the cycle)

Chiquitita · 02-02-2014 6:56pm

Oh so im not the only one today.....good to know!

Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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