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    #3362
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    ye they are always at that, it will come back under a different name more than likely or just 1 or 2 minor changes to the ingredients.

    its all the same i wouldn't recommend it to be honest not for cutting anyway, no energy increase at all i find it hard to work out because of the restriction of calories due to having a decreased appetite and also it puts me in a bad mood for some reason.

    i wouldnt mind the decreased appetite if it gave me the boost its suppose to give, i heard people comparing this to jacked and nos pump its no where near those levels id get a better kick from a can of red bull to be honest.

    il continue with them til mid july to finish the cycle but never again.


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    #3363
    aristo
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭aristo


    df1985 wrote: »
    where did you go can i ask?

    Discount supplements and isnt available in universal nutrition either


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    #3364
    Palmer07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Palmer07


    Multivitamins are very important in our daily life. One can always look for the supplements that increase the immunity. Also when coming to the point of dosage you should start slowly and then gradually increase to the recommended amount to adjust to higher level of nutrition.


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    #3365
    Amadeus.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭Amadeus.


    Has anyone ever heard of the product above or is anyone taking them? I have been told that they are a herbal supplement that increases natural testosterone. I have heard of good reports from older men who are looking for a boost. I am considering them myself. Any reports, good or bad please?


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    #3366
    tiernanobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭tiernanobrien


    We sell them where I work and 9 out of 10 people give them great reviews. As you say they are great for older lads and the only people who give it bad reviews are still in their late teens.
    IMO USP make very good quality products having tried a good few of them (pink magic is not one of them though as im 22). Stick them in with some ZMA and creatine and I reckon you'd get pretty good gains


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    #3367
    tiernanobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭tiernanobrien


    Animal PAK is very very good I just hated the 11 tablet dosage. I've just switched to Multipro 32 which is easy to take and cheap


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    #3368
    Amadeus.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭Amadeus.


    tiernanobrien wrote: »
    We sell them where I work and 9 out of 10 people give them great reviews. As you say they are great for older lads and the only people who give it bad reviews are still in their late teens.
    IMO USP make very good quality products having tried a good few of them (pink magic is not one of them though as im 22). Stick them in with some ZMA and creatine and I reckon you'd get pretty good gains

    Thanks, I was planning to take them with maximuscle cyclone which has some creatine in it. I will post back here with results.


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    #3369
    itsallaboutheL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    *facepalm*


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    #3370
    hurley210
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭hurley210


    Without overdoing it, what do people think of taking creatine(10g/day), bcaa powder(15g/day) and protein powder (60g/day), all of which are bulkpowders products. I am aware that supplements are just that and i am fairly happy with my diet overall.


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    #3371
    tiernanobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭tiernanobrien


    OH DEAR GOD DONT GET CYCLONE! I work in one of the bigger supplement shops and can tell you that while i think its a good product its awful value and tastes like muck. Theres loads of alternatives that will last you 14 days rather than the 10 days which cyclone does at the same price (kinetica complete, phd synergy, reflex one-stop). Pink magic and at least 3 tubs of cyclone will cost you 170-200 or so.

    Split it up and ensure you get the right dosing at the right time. Its more up front but the same cost overall. Id say a stack of maybe:

    pink magic - E55
    ZMA (180 caps - 2 months) - E25
    Scivation Xtend/Purple Wrath - (6+ weeks) - E50
    CR2 creatine/Cell Mass/Storm - (6 weeks) - E29-40
    Protein - (75ish servings) - E40-55

    For 200 quid that is a much much much much better stack!


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    #3372
    Deedsie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Please pardon my ignorance here people. Is there any supplement you could recommend I take before lifting that will give me a blast of energy to help me lift. I was lifting tonight and I hadn't time to have dinner before hand. So I was weaker than usual. Anything I could take to boost my energy levels?


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    #3373
    King of Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    animal pak for me -
    The price has dropped in recent years can get for 30e for 44paks which isn't bad


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    #3374
    Deedsie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    King of Kings wrote: »
    animal pak for me -
    The price has dropped in recent years can get for 30e for 44paks which isn't bad

    I did a small bit of research on this! Does it actually make your Pee green? Do ye have dinner before or after lifting? Would some carbs an hour before training be a good idea?


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    #3375
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,920 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Quick questions on creatine:

    Does it need a loading phase or is that to sell more creatine?

    Does it require high GI carbs pwo to 'shuttle' it into your muscles or is that bro-science?


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    #3376
    Hennessy88
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Hennessy88


    Find NO supps to be great for heavy days like legs, but gets pretty difficult to do any isolation moves. Can barely bend my arms after doing some back work


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    #3377
    xgtdec
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    I'm finished with Jack3d from today:)

    thats 3 workouts out of 3 where afterwards for the best part of the day ive just felt sick and the damn stuff repeats something fierce....might just drink coffee from now on!!


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    #3378
    jugger0
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    xgtdec wrote: »
    I'm finished with Jack3d from today:)

    thats 3 workouts out of 3 where afterwards for the best part of the day ive just felt sick and the damn stuff repeats something fierce....might just drink coffee from now on!!

    Im the complete opposite, black coffee makes me feel like sheat, jack3d makes me feel like zeus. Would you try 1RM? its pretty much that and jack3d in pole position with NOexplode not far behind. White flood is supposed to be good too but i dont think they sell that here.


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    #3379
    xgtdec
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Would you try 1RM? its pretty much that and jack3d in pole position with NOexplode not far behind. White flood is supposed to be good too but i dont think they sell that here.

    1MR "would" have been next on my list...i think for a while ill just get in and get it done.....Jack3d to me just smells and tastes and feels SO artificial i really dont like it....maybe if i mix it into my coffee:p


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    #3380
    jugger0
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    xgtdec wrote: »
    1MR "would" have been next on my list...i think for a while ill just get in and get it done.....Jack3d to me just smells and tastes and feels SO artificial i really dont like it....maybe if i mix it into my coffee:p

    Yeah doesnt it smell like poison?! tastes like feckin toilet duck too, works like a charm tho. Coffee and jack3d would probably give you a heartattack brah... you'd be swole and pumped in the ER tho.


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    #3381
    King of Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Deedsie wrote: »
    I did a small bit of research on this! Does it actually make your Pee green? Do ye have dinner before or after lifting? Would some carbs an hour before training be a good idea?

    no it turns it luminous yellow.

    I take them at breakfast.

    I dunno on the carbs thing - I generally don't eat for training - I eat my meals at the times I want and don't structure them around training.
    Something I find an apple is nice pre training (30 mins)


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    #3382
    Bob1981
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Bob1981


    After reading through this thread, placed my first order with myprotein today. Price seems very good so down to the test now! Apart from adding protein to your diet naturally and taking the whey protein, is there anything else that I should be doing to bulk up? My workouts over the week are 60:40 cardio-vascular over strength training. I do enjoy my running and swimming!


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    #3383
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Bob1981 wrote: »
    After reading through this thread, placed my first order with myprotein today. Price seems very good so down to the test now! Apart from adding protein to your diet naturally and taking the whey protein, is there anything else that I should be doing to bulk up? My workouts over the week are 60:40 cardio-vascular over strength training. I do enjoy my running and swimming!


    Eat a lot, count your calories, drink lots of milk.


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    #3384
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,024 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tiernanobrien wrote: »
    We sell them where I work and 9 out of 10 people give them great reviews. As you say they are great for older lads and the only people who give it bad reviews are still in their late teens.
    IMO USP make very good quality products having tried a good few of them (pink magic is not one of them though as im 22). Stick them in with some ZMA and creatine and I reckon you'd get pretty good gains

    What do you think pink magic does?
    Why do you think its only for older people, or suitable for anybody?
    How do these older peopel know it worked?


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    #3385
    tiernanobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭tiernanobrien


    Mellor wrote: »
    What do you think pink magic does?
    Why do you think its only for older people, or suitable for anybody?
    How do these older peopel know it worked?

    1. Pink helps your body produce more testosterone
    2. Its suitable for everyone but the older you are the more your testosterone levels will have dropped and the bigger difference you will notice. Its quite expensive for the little gains that younger lads would get from it.
    3. Increased strength, muscle growth, libido, spots on the back is common enough too


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    #3386
    UUJ_Lad
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭UUJ_Lad


    xgtdec wrote: »
    I'm finished with Jack3d from today:)

    thats 3 workouts out of 3 where afterwards for the best part of the day ive just felt sick and the damn stuff repeats something fierce....might just drink coffee from now on!!

    Agreed on the sick thing, after a tough session I literally do need to just breathe slow in the shower to stop it coming back up. Although I do work out at 7am so that could well be a factor. But for me it only lasts about 2 minutes.

    It don't taste great, but you can near down the serving in one go - I just have a glass of water right after.


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    #3387
    NotExactly
    Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    Does anyone know what are the best products to buy off Myprotein.com. I'm goin' to buy Whey Protein,Omega 3 and Creatine. What is the best creatine to get?Also what are the best sellers? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.


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    #3388
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,024 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tiernanobrien wrote: »
    1. Pink helps your body produce more testosterone
    2. Its suitable for everyone but the older you are the more your testosterone levels will have dropped and the bigger difference you will notice. Its quite expensive for the little gains that younger lads would get from it.
    3. Increased strength, muscle growth, libido, spots on the back is common enough too
    1. One site says the 3 ingredients increase blood flow. And 1 ingredient has been shown to increase test in animals.
    2. How? If it increases testosterone production, then your body produces more, regardless of levels. Also, what sort of increase, have these increases been measured?
    3. An increase in test is no use if you aren't training hard. The hard training alone could cause the strength and growth, as for the libido, that's the placebo effect. If you give some who claims low libido a packet of tic-tacs and tell him it will help. After abouit a week, he'll rolling around the bed with his wife and ringing you for more


    It's plant seeds, a test increase doesn't mean a significant increase. I'm not saying it doesn't work, I can't say without trying or seeing proper figures. But I'm always dubious of these things, especially when they don't include studies that back up their claims. If there are legitimate studies that show it increases by a huge amount, then i'll believe it. The placebo effect and the workout effect is not to be overlooked.


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    #3389
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    NotExactly wrote: »
    Does anyone know what are the best products to buy off Myprotein.com. I'm goin' to buy Whey Protein,Omega 3 and Creatine. What is the best creatine to get?Also what are the best sellers? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.

    There protein is good, I started with that then moved to Hurricane XS for one go which has Creatine and carbs for post wo, I certainly saw gains although I did work out harder. I was given a batch of strawberry whey so I decided to just buy Creatine Ethyl Ester to mix with it. Be warned its vile ( and I can stomach an awful lot of sh1t ) but the CEE is really bitter and completely overpowers the whey.
    Hurricane XS is a bit more expensive but I think I would be go back to it simply as I currently shudder at the thought of the CEE.
    Hope this helps


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    #3390
    UUJ_Lad
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭UUJ_Lad


    NotExactly wrote: »
    Does anyone know what are the best products to buy off Myprotein.com. I'm goin' to buy Whey Protein,Omega 3 and Creatine. What is the best creatine to get?Also what are the best sellers? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.

    I buy Impact Whey Protein (the most popular) and Creatine Monohydrate, the creatine is pretty cheap, as is the protein. At the moment I think you can still get 2.75kg for the price of 2.5kg - Protein that is.

    Choc Mint, Strawberry Cream, Vanilla and Cookies and Cream aren't bad - Although to be honest, come the end of a 2.5kg bad I am sick of whatever flavour I get, so I switch them up, buy the odd 1kg for a change.

    I have never tried creapure or creatine gluconate - However some people swear by them, but basically it all does the same job and its just how your body will react to it.


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    #3391
    marathonic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭marathonic


    UUJ_Lad wrote: »
    Choc Mint, Strawberry Cream, Vanilla and Cookies and Cream aren't bad - Although to be honest, come the end of a 2.5kg bad I am sick of whatever flavour I get, so I switch them up, buy the odd 1kg for a change.

    Judging by the status of the online tracking of my order, I'll have the following waiting when I get home:

    5kg Impact Whey Protein: Strawberry Cream
    5kg Impact Whey Protein: Vanilla
    5kg Impact Whey Protein: Chocolate Smooth
    5kg Impact Whey Protein: Banana
    5kg Impact Whey Protein: Cookies & Cream

    A hell of a lot of protein but I got it delivered to work in the North, got it price-beaten with another UK website and used the 10% off voucher code.

    Came to a total of 225 euro including delivery.


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