Dark Souls

Kiith · 05-10-2011 2:38pm

It's definitely a time sink. I've 3 characters, two of them with 30+ hours on them. And that's nothing compared to what a lot of people put in. From the looks of things, it's even bigger this time around.

Crucifix · 05-10-2011 3:10pm

Play shipped my copy today. 3-5 working days so it probably won't arrive til next week, but I suppose that's the price of ordering online

AnCapaillMor · 05-10-2011 3:13pm

Dcully wrote: »

Guys i admit to not watching this game too closely ,i rarely buy console games but this certainly is appealing but i dont want to buy something thats over quickly.
Im just wondering how big the game world is etc?
Are we talking similar to what we expect with skyrim?

I'd 200+ plus hours on 1 game save, i also bought the asian, us an EU versions of demons souls and dark souls is meant to be bigger. The thing with demons souls was that it wasn't too big, its that there was so many different ways of playing it and then you get into the online side of it. a mage playthrough is totally different to a knight playthrough, each class\build uses\needs different tactics. Then there was NG+ which kicked you in nuts and laughed at you for thinking you were tough for finishing it. Don't get me started on world tendencies which kinda made 1 level into 3 levels(hard to explain).

Skyrim is a huge world that will take time to discover everything, dark souls\demons souls is a decent ennough sized world with a hundred ways to play\finish it and of course its bloody tough.

AnCapaillMor · 05-10-2011 3:14pm

Crucifix wrote: »

Play shipped my copy today. 3-5 working days so it probably won't arrive til next week, but I suppose that's the price of ordering online

Play good luck with 3-4 days delivery. They're brutal for games.

notahappycamper · 05-10-2011 3:23pm

Crucifix wrote: »

Play shipped my copy today. 3-5 working days so it probably won't arrive til next week, but I suppose that's the price of ordering online

From my experience it should arrive this day week.

noodler · 05-10-2011 4:22pm

Crucifix wrote: »

Play shipped my copy today. 3-5 working days so it probably won't arrive til next week, but I suppose that's the price of ordering online

Why did you order from Play?

50e on their site compared to 42 delivered from Gamestop.

Burning Eclipse · 05-10-2011 4:41pm

noodler wrote: »

Why did you order from Play?

50e on their site compared to 42 delivered from Gamestop.

Aaaannnnd, Gamestop take laser which is pure win IMO! Still waiting on my dispatch email though!

Kiith · 05-10-2011 4:43pm

We should have a competition to see who lasts the longest before dying.

moonboy52 · 05-10-2011 4:59pm

I am really looking forward to Dark Souls i must say.

I loved Demon Souls (at least most of the time:P). I do enjoy a good challenge in games.

Big Knox · 05-10-2011 5:01pm

So to get a bit of discussion going with the more experienced souls players here what build are you planning on going?

WARNING: stat / class / weapon upgrade spoilers ahead, albeit very minor but don't read on if you literally want to know nothing about the game!!

With the changes to stats the cookie cutter DS builds won't be the same anymore. DEX increases movement speed while STR increases attack speed. FAI is pretty much unchanged. I shall be planning on going heavy melee. Starting out as a turtle pumping VIT + END and getting just enough in STR/DEX for my minimum weapon requirements as I plan on making a Thunder weapon as soon as possible as it doesen't scale with stats like Dragon Weapons in DS.

Once my VIT + END are high enough (40 + 40) I will likely focus on STR as my main attack damage stat as I never made a STR build in DS and I like the idea that high STR builds can use the great swords / axes (Quite a few uniques now) but can now also use smaller weapons extremely fast due to the changes.

Second Chance is back but requires 20 FAI this time so I will leave that decision until last before I raise my faith at all.

High END will help with equip burden as there are now 4 levels of movement/roll speed (>25/50/75/100 burden) but the introduction of hyper armour now means it's not useless anymore so it will probably be a good idea to swap between heavy and light armour depending on boss mechanics.

Going to start with Bandit as it has the highest STR but lowest INT and I plan on leaving INT at base so it's the best choice for min/maxing later on!!

TUTORIAL:

Going to choose Firebombs as my gift so I can kill the Asylum Demon and get his hammer as im going a STR build and it requires 46 to use. Only time you can get it in the game also!!

So anyone else thought about their build in an insane amount of detail like this??

Grayditch · 05-10-2011 5:03pm

I can't remember how long it too to platinum Demon's Soul. I know it took 4 playthroughs and a bit. Worth it.

rickyjb · 05-10-2011 5:10pm

Zavvi just told me they've dispatched my order - estimated delivery time 10-15 days. The good news is they almost always get it to you in that time period, fair play to them... What mode of transport do they use, rowboat followed by some guy on foot??

I did get it for £17.85 so I can't complain too much I guess. I'd be happy enough if I get it Friday week. Anyone else order off the Zavvi/the Hut? (I assume the hut are equally fast)

Zapp Brannigan · 05-10-2011 5:22pm

F*ck f*ck f*ckity f*ck...

Can't kill the second boss

Don't know if I'm liking my starting class, and still not too sure of the differences between being human and undead are.

But still, this is what I expected from this game and I'm going to be playing it all day today so hopefully I'll make some progress.

EDIT: Decided to start my download of the mini-guide and soundtrack. They're flying along at 6kbps on my 20meg connection. Well played Namco.

ShaneU · 05-10-2011 9:30pm

If gamestop don't send this tomorrow, it'll be the first and last time I use their site. If it's mailed on their suggested date (Friday) I won't get it until Monday.

noodler · 05-10-2011 9:35pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

F*ck f*ck f*ckity f*ck...

Can't kill the second boss Don't know if I'm liking my starting class, and still not too sure of the differences between being human and undead are.

But still, this is what I expected from this game and I'm going to be playing it all day today so hopefully I'll make some progress.

EDIT: Decided to start my download of the mini-guide and soundtrack. They're flying along at 6kbps on my 20meg connection. Well played Namco.

Euro Version? We are supposed to get the CD as a disc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD7DjVQFdiU

tonydude · 05-10-2011 9:51pm

Got the same response from gamestop. I cancelled the order. not worth it. Ill pick it up instore instead on friday morning

Retr0gamer · 05-10-2011 10:01pm

weiland79 · 05-10-2011 10:09pm

Crucifix wrote: »

Play shipped my copy today. 3-5 working days so it probably won't arrive til next week, but I suppose that's the price of ordering online

I'm sorry but i can't resist trolling you a little bit.

So Crucifix hows that week going to work out for you when we are all playing this and posting about it here?
I'll tell you what, you can come over to my place and watch me play it. I won't let you have a go and you have to be quite, but it's better than nothing which is what you'll have on friday.:D

tonydude · 05-10-2011 10:38pm

weiland79 wrote: »

I'm sorry but i can't resist trolling you a little bit.

So Crucifix hows that week going to work out for you when we are all playing this and posting about it here?
I'll tell you what, you can come over to my place and watch me play it. I won't let you have a go and you have to be quite, but it's better than nothing which is what you'll have on friday.:D

Play, zavvi and thehut are brutal for shipping, should have went for gamestop. Cant wait for this. Can only play a couple hours this weekend though

YouSavedMyLife · 05-10-2011 11:38pm

This is like the longest week of my life and im only 3 days into it...

Kiith · 05-10-2011 11:47pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

This is like the longest week of my life and im only 3 days into it...

This was the longest week of my life, but i'm off till Monday now

Makes waiting for the game even more annoying though

YouSavedMyLife · 05-10-2011 11:57pm

So to get a bit of discussion going with the more experienced souls players here what build are you planning on going?

WARNING: stat / class / weapon upgrade spoilers ahead, albeit very minor but don't read on if you literally want to know nothing about the game!!

To answer your question i have also being doing alot of theorycraft about my first build in the game, but to be honest im not gonna focus on min/maxing on my first run through. Im just gonna play it, ya know.

Im gonna choose a Knight and go with a STR/FAI build on my first run through, primarily cause of the fact that a STR build with heavier armour seems useful unlike Demon Souls. FAI mainly for healing type spells and enchantments. Gonna also try to stick with heavy armour and see if its possible to actually clear the game without resorting to lighter armour for rolling evades. As for weapons im gonna switch it up depending on situations. Big 2handers and Sword + Board.

I couldnt help myself from watching streams and there are two items i am not gonna use no matter what

The Drake Sword and Shield + Spear Combo

as for the tutorial

Im gonna take blackfire bombs also for the big Mace, but im also tempted to choose the pendant as it apparently has some effect on the plot. May take it in a NG+ if possible or on another character that isnt so STR focused

Was tempted to go with a Pyromancer + DEX Melee hybrid at first but was reading abit about Pyromancy and alot of things dont see to clear regarding scaling of spells and such and the use of INT, so gonna leave that for my second char till the facts emerge.

Kiith · 06-10-2011 12:02am

WARNING: stat / class / weapon upgrade spoilers ahead, albeit very minor but don't read on if you literally want to know nothing about the game!!

I'll probably go VIT/END and then STR as well. I had a magic focussed character for Demons Souls, and it ocassionally felt like a cheap way of beating enemies (Firestorm kill at least 4 bosses in one hit). Not sure whether to stick with light or heavy armour, so i'll wait and see how the movement in heavy is before deciding.

Will probably stick with a sword + shield for most of the game, as i've always preferred it. Will have a spear and bow as well though, as they always come in useful. Going to do my best to kill

the Black Knight early on and get the Black Knights sword and shield.

Can't wait.

Big Knox · 06-10-2011 3:26am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

I couldnt help myself from watching streams and there are two items i am not gonna use no matter what
The Drake Sword and Shield + Spear Combo

Can I ask why are you purposely staying away from the

Drake Sword?

I was planning on going for it pretty much straight away, get my stats to the minimum required and then start work on VIT + END.

SK1979 · 06-10-2011 8:59am

For others who ordered through Gamestop, I can confirm my copy was delivered this morning. I chose the express delivery. I never got any e-mail confirmation off them either.

Had a quick open of the box and there is a physical cd of the music, a behind the scenes physical dvd and a code to download a guide.

Now, have to poxy work all day, so cant play it to later.

Edit: It has an art book too, which is fabulously presented.

Crucifix · 06-10-2011 9:15am

noodler wrote: »

Why did you order from Play?

50e on their site compared to 42 delivered from Gamestop.

Should have researched better. I haven't bought a game online in ages, I didn't even know gamestop had an online store.

weiland79 wrote: »

I'm sorry but i can't resist trolling you a little bit.

So Crucifix hows that week going to work out for you when we are all playing this and posting about it here?
I'll tell you what, you can come over to my place and watch me play it. I won't let you have a go and you have to be quite, but it's better than nothing which is what you'll have on friday.:D

Ha ha :mad: I'll just have to play demon's souls and pretend this weekend

AnCapaillMor · 06-10-2011 9:30am

SK1979 wrote: »

For others who ordered through Gamestop, I can confirm my copy was delivered this morning. I chose the express delivery. I never got any e-mail confirmation off them either.

Had a quick open of the box and there is a physical cd of the music, a behind the scenes physical dvd and a code to download a guide.

Now, have to poxy work all day, so cant play it to later.

Edit: It has an art book too, which is fabulously presented.

Its time like this that boards need a hate button instead of a thumbs up one.

Pissed off a bit about the guide download, might as well use wiki. Stupid question whats format the guide will i be able to use it on a tab.

SK1979 · 06-10-2011 9:33am

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Its time like this that boards need a hate button instead of a thumbs up one.

Pissed off a bit about the guide download, might as well use wiki. Stupid question whats format the guide will i be able to use it on a tab.

I'm kind of disappointed about the guide myself. I dont want a walk-through but I would of liked something that details items and armours etc. With stats and so on. Something that was in a handy book, rather than having to go to the wiki all the time to check.

In fairness, I didn't even look at the guide that it gives you the code for yet so maybe it might be in PDF format that could be printed?

noodler · 06-10-2011 9:35am

SK1979 wrote: »

I'm kind of disappointed about the guide myself. I dont want a walk-through but I would of liked something that details items and armours etc. With stats and so on. Something that was in a handy book, rather than having to go to the wiki all the time to check.

In fairness, I didn't even look at the guide that it gives you the code for yet so maybe it might be in PDF format that could be printed?

I reckon I will buy the Official guide at some stage for that sort of stuff.

super_furry · 06-10-2011 10:11am

So every copy is the Special Edition then? Got a text from GAME yesterday to say my copy is in but I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get it.

Big Knox · 06-10-2011 10:13am

Did it arrive by normal post or courrier? No sign of mine, so jealous :-(

penev10 · 06-10-2011 10:27am

Apparently in the States customers are getting $20 gift cards if they dont get a hard copy of the guide.

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/dark-souls-collectors-edition-prepares-to-die-at-retail-8765

Have you been enjoying Dark Souls? I hope you are because there's been quite a bit of demand for the latest soul-crusher from Namco Bandai and From Software. Gamers everywhere have been hounding retailers for their pre-ordered Collector's Editions since the game's release.

Best Buy and Newegg have both been forced to offer up $20 giftcards to consumers who are getting the shaft when it comes to picking up their Collector's Edition of the game. While the limited run of Dark Souls comes with an art book and a guide you have to download in PDF format, many gamers are still demanding their due.

Honestly, I don't blame them. The Demon's Souls Collector's Edition will run a pretty penny second hand and Dark Souls appears to be in the same situation. Namco Bandai sent GameRevolution an Xbox 360 copy of the game for our review, but even we weren't given a Collector's Edition.

I've been calling all games retailers in a 20 mile radius asking about any spare Collector's Edition in stock and every time I'm asked if I preordered or not. Be prepared to die...

Dcully · 06-10-2011 10:38am

I had hoped to complete, fallout3,mass effect2,deus ex HR,space marine,hard reset,Alice madness returns,borderlands,bioshock2 all before the release of BF3 and Smyrim soon after but the lure of multiplayer games has dominated my gaming time.
I think its time i finally finished some of the mentioned games all of which are fantastic what ive played of them.
For that reason alone ill have to pass on Dark Souls until a later date.
Educating myself about the game the last few days i now understand why so many cannot wait to get their hands on it,it looks awesome and right up my street so to speak.
Its great to see such a hardcore non dumbed down game on the consoles.
To those getting the game asap i hope yas enjoy it, ill certainly be grabbing it at a later date.

Retr0gamer · 06-10-2011 11:00am

Seriously you should by it, you won't be disappointed. It's better than any of those games you mentioned if Demon's Souls is anything to go by.

SK1979 · 06-10-2011 11:03am

Big Knox wrote: »

Did it arrive by normal post or courrier? No sign of mine, so jealous :-(

Mine came in the normal post, well just pushed through my letter box about 7:40 this morning. I still haven't received any e-mail confirmation of my order being despatched from Gamestop, and have just checked their site and it states my order is still "Processing" with a despatch date of 7th Oct.

So, others in the same position should keep an eye out today as it looks like orders are well on their way.

I only pre-ordered on 28th Sep too.

tonydude · 06-10-2011 11:29am

i cancelled my oreder yesterday and preordered instore, got an email today to say its been sent, why did i pay €20 instore to preorder.

DaveDaRave · 06-10-2011 11:32am

Anyone else get their Dark Souls from gamestop already ?

Nothing here, but i only ordered 2 days ago.

Also how much is the game in the shops ?

johnny_ultimate · 06-10-2011 11:36am

super_furry wrote: »

So every copy is the Special Edition then? Got a text from GAME yesterday to say my copy is in but I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get it.

Yep, every version is the SE.

Also, the guide was always meant to be PDF. All the pre-order boxes that have been in stores recently have specified it pretty clearly!

Hopefully it will arrive tomorrow, although not too bothered either way!

Kiith · 06-10-2011 11:49am

My copy better bloody arrive today. Will have to go in to work to collect it, but that's fine. Paid for express delivery, so no reason it shouldnt get here if others have gotten it.

snowblind · 06-10-2011 11:52am

Don't worry, you should get it. I got mine today, ordered on the 26th, never got an e-mail and the gamestop website says the order is "processing". Art book is nice, but I'll have to wait until the evening to play....ugh

heebusjeebus · 06-10-2011 12:03pm

I ordered mine on tues (express delivery) and it has just arrived.
Lovely Art Book with it which contains a Soundtrack CD and a Behind the Scenes DVD.
"Prepare to die", indeed.

Stylesclash07 · 06-10-2011 12:10pm

if i ordered normal post when should i get it

penev10 · 06-10-2011 12:41pm

Stylesclash07 wrote: »

if i ordered normal post when should i get it

Probably Monday. It's normally 48 hours for standard post if my experiences with Adverts are anything to go by.

AnCapaillMor · 06-10-2011 12:44pm

Decent classes breakdown http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Classes

the bandit is interesting me.

not trying to be racist or anything, but wouldn't a pyromancer and sorcerer be essentially the same thing.

johnny_ultimate · 06-10-2011 12:52pm

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

not trying to be racist or anything, but wouldn't a pyromancer and sorcerer be essentially the same thing.

Reported for racial profiling :pac:

penev10 · 06-10-2011 1:01pm

Leaning towards the Pyromancer myself.

Also tempted to tank it with the Knight, and if it were any other game I probably would, but the need to be agile in Demons Souls was paramount.

Liamario · 06-10-2011 1:06pm

Ordered mine yesterday at 2pm. Normal post has been and I don't know if express post is a seperate delivery. In any case, I doubt I'll get it today.

heebusjeebus · 06-10-2011 1:13pm

Liamario wrote: »

Ordered mine yesterday at 2pm. Normal post has been and I don't know if express post is a seperate delivery. In any case, I doubt I'll get it today.

Express post is a courier. They can call at any time of the day.

Liamario · 06-10-2011 1:16pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Express post is a courier. They can call at any time of the day.

Thank you jeebus. There's hope yet.

noodler · 06-10-2011 1:18pm

super_furry wrote: »

So every copy is the Special Edition then? Got a text from GAME yesterday to say my copy is in but I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get it.

What was their preorder price? Never bothered getting it online.

If it is the same price in Gamestop as it is online then I will be getting it there.

PS: Rarely buy games in bricks and mortars these days but wheres a good place to go to make sure you get a sealed copy rather than the box from the shop floor?

Dark Souls

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