GoT Illiterate Season 4 finale HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 8:01pm

Wooden Jesus wrote: »

I don't know why Arya and the hound weren't let into the Vale when the guards told her Lysa was dead

I wondered about this, too. I guess they didn't believe that she was really Lysa's niece after she burst out laughing. Still, you would have thought that they'd bring her to Littlefinger, just in case. I wouldn't imagine he'd be too pleased that they let her go, if he ever finds out.

Timmyctc · 16-06-2014 8:04pm

No Sign of Alliser Thorne at the funeral for the fallen Night's watch. Surely he didn't get an offscreen death after his blatant badassery in the previous ep?

expectationlost · 16-06-2014 8:06pm

couldn't the black watch do with help defending the kingdoms from the white walkers, we'll let you in as long as you help defend the wall seems like the most obvious deal

and did I miss a episode where yerman actually got the money for his army?

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 8:10pm

expectationlost wrote: »

and did I miss a episode where yerman actually got the money for his army?

Episode six.

Timmyctc wrote: »

No Sign of Alliser Thorne at the funeral for the fallen Night's watch. Surely he didn't get an offscreen death after his blatant badassery in the previous ep?

If he'd died, it would have shown you his body on the pyre (like you saw Pyp and Grenn). He'll be back.

shruikan2553 · 16-06-2014 8:12pm

No real leader in Kings Landing now. Cersei is probably in charge and all weddings with the Tyrells are off (I assume from the conversation with Tywin). Cant imagine the grandmother being happy with that.

expectationlost wrote: »

couldn't the black watch do with help defending the kingdoms from the white walkers, we'll let you in as long as you help defend the wall seems like the most obvious deal

and did I miss a episode where yerman actually got the money for his army?

Stannis and Davos went to Bravos (probably spelt those wrong) and convinced the iron bank to give them money. No idea why or how they got north of the wall though.

DerekDGoldfish · 16-06-2014 8:16pm

shruikan2553 wrote: »

No real leader in Kings Landing now. Cersei is probably in charge and all weddings with the Tyrells are off (I assume from the conversation with Tywin). Cant imagine the grandmother being happy with that.

Stannis and Davos went to Bravos (probably spelt those wrong) and convinced the iron bank to give them money. No idea why or how they got north of the wall though.

If they get the daughter back from Dorne maybe they can keep things going in the Targarian way.

Da Shins Kelly · 16-06-2014 8:16pm

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Sorry if it's a silly question but I can't remember what the story is. Dany chains up two dragons, where's the third? Is it implied that the third dragon has gone rogue or what?

Yeah, they don't know exactly where he is, but there have been sightings. I think they're hoping he'll show up, but I think it's implied that he is probably going his own way

MagicMarker · 16-06-2014 8:23pm

That was epic, the fight between Brienne and the Hound was the highlight.

I reckon Tyrion is heading in Daenerys' general direction, doesn't Varys have his 'little birdies' there?

mooseknunkle · 16-06-2014 8:27pm

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Yeah, they don't know exactly where he is, but there have been sightings. I think they're hoping he'll show up, but I think it's implied that he is probably going his own way

So what does she hope to achieve by chaining up the other two dragons,stopping them going their own way too?

Essien · 16-06-2014 8:31pm

Not long left til it's aired on sky, who's gona update their Facebook status to " I'll miss Jon Snow

" for the craic :P

dark crystal · 16-06-2014 8:32pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

So what does she hope to achieve by chaining up the other two dragons,stopping them going their own way too?

They were becoming too dangerous to leave loose. Earlier in the series, we saw them barbequing a herd of goats and during the last episode we saw the poor guy holding his dead daughter in his arms, also a victim of the dragons.

Daenerys had no choice but to chain them up after that.

Da Shins Kelly · 16-06-2014 8:33pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

So what does she hope to achieve by chaining up the other two dragons,stopping them going their own way too?

Well, presumably it's to stop them from killing people. Previously they had killed a civilian's livestock, and then in this episode we saw that they killed a man's child. She clearly can't control them at all times, especially as they get bigger and start to branch out. Jorah told her in a previous episode that dragons can never truly be tamed. The only way to ensure that they don't kill people is to chain them up.

Brendan Filone · 16-06-2014 8:37pm

Littlefinger basically spoiled the finale :mad:

Sudden Valley · 16-06-2014 8:47pm

I find it a bit of a pity that most of the characters that made the kings landing portion of the story have now left that location or been killed off in the show. Also Arya without the hound and Dany without Jorah- doesn't seem right.

Da Shins Kelly · 16-06-2014 8:49pm

Can't even imagine what Jorah is going to do or where he'll end up.

fearrua · 16-06-2014 9:44pm

That was soooo good. Was that the first time a main character duel ended with the morally good character (Brienne) won?

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 9:48pm

WHAT. That was beyond epic. So much sh*t went down I don't even know where to begin!!!

MY DAYS. That was glorious television.

In short, f*ck Brienne, knew Shae was a b*tch, lol at Varys hopping on the boat with Tyrion, Jamie is a boss, poor ol Mance, omg, so much to take in I need to watch it again.

WellThen? · 16-06-2014 9:50pm

fearrua wrote: »

That was soooo good. Was that the first time a main character duel ended with the morally good character (Brienne) won?

There was NO good outcome to that fight

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 9:53pm

road dog wrote: »

One thing im scratching my head over is why did Stannis and his army land north of the wall.
He must of known he would struggle to get past the wall not unless he is in cahoots with someone else

Couldn't wrap my head around this at all. If Stannis can get thousands of horsemen around the wall, why can wildlings manage it whenever they feel like it?
Why was he up there anyway?

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 9:54pm

Brendan Filone wrote: »

Littlefinger basically spoiled the finale :mad:

I bet he's a book reader.

Emperor1989 · 16-06-2014 9:55pm

Can someone please explain the significance of the coin that Arya gave to the Captain of the ship?

Also did Jamie defintely say it was Varys waiting for him, I was sure Jamie was setting him up to be killed?

Thanks in advance.

seligehgit · 16-06-2014 9:57pm

Shane St. wrote: »

Why didnt Ayra finish off the hound rather than let him suffer

She'd built a strong bond with him and despite having him on her list did'nt have the heart to do it...

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 9:58pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Couldn't wrap my head around this at all. If Stannis can get thousands of horsemen around the wall, why can wildlings manage it whenever they feel like it?

Stannis has ships - he sailed from Braavos/Essos and landed north of The Wall.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Why was he up there anyway?

He had a vision of a great battle in the snow. Melisandre told him that the true war lies to the north.

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 9:59pm

Can't believe The Hound turned out to be so crap. Especially once the fight turned dirty I was sure he'd have yer wan's neck handy enough like.
How did the ancient Targaryans control their dragons? Were they wargs too?
One thing I missed, what was the coin thing Arya showed to the ship's captain?

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 10:01pm

Emperor1989 wrote: »

Can someone please explain the significance of the coin that Arya gave to the Captain of the ship?

Also did Jamie defintely say it was Varys waiting for him, I was sure Jamie was setting him up to be killed?

Thanks in advance.

Jaqen H'ghar gave it to her and told her that if she ever wanted to get to Braavos just give it to any Bravosi and say Valar Morguhulis.

Also yeah he definitely said Varys don't see why Jamie would want his brother whom he loves killed?!

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 10:01pm

Emperor1989 wrote: »

Can someone please explain the significance of the coin that Arya gave to the Captain of the ship?

Dan_Solo wrote: »

One thing I missed, what was the coin thing Arya showed to the ship's captain?

From earlier in the thread:

Al Capwned wrote: »

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 10:02pm

seligehgit wrote: »

She'd built a strong bond with him and despite having him on her list did'nt have the heart to do it...

I actually thought it was the opposite, and she hated him more than ever and refused to put him out of his misery.
Was I the only person who thought the Hound/Brienne fight was all light hearted and might end up rom-com at the start? I honestly wasn't expecting them to actually try to kill each other at all under the rocks and daggers came into it.

DerekDGoldfish · 16-06-2014 10:02pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Can't believe The Hound turned out to be so crap. Especially once the fight turned dirty I was sure he'd have yer wan's neck handy enough like.
How did the ancient Targaryans control their dragons? Were they wargs too?
One thing I missed, what was the coin thing Arya showed to the ship's captain?

They most likly didnt, they dont seem like a bunch of care about a few fried peasants.

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 10:03pm

Gadgie wrote: »

From earlier in the thread:

Ah right, I'd forgotten my rip off elvish! Ta!

Emperor1989 · 16-06-2014 10:04pm

iamanengine wrote: »

Jaqen H'ghar gave it to her and told her that if she ever wanted to get to Braavos just give it to any Bravosi and say Valar Morguhulis.

Also yeah he definitely said Varys don't see why Jamie would want his brother whom he loves killed?!

I thought Jamie may have turned after himself and his sister got it on earlier in the episode.

Thanks

Emperor1989 · 16-06-2014 10:05pm

Gadgie wrote: »

From earlier in the thread:

Thank you

Dan_Solo · 16-06-2014 10:05pm

Gadgie wrote: »

He had a vision of a great battle in the snow. Melisandre told him that the true war lies to the north.

That still leaves the real reason a bit cryptic but the red woman works in mysterious ways.

MagicMarker · 16-06-2014 10:08pm

Gadgie wrote: »

He had a vision of a great battle in the snow. Melisandre told him that the true war lies to the north.

The knights watch also despatched all their crows warning of what's coming.

catallus · 16-06-2014 10:09pm

O M F G!!!! :eek:

expectationlost · 16-06-2014 10:09pm

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Stannis and Davos went to Bravos (probably spelt those wrong) and convinced the iron bank to give them money. No idea why or how they got north of the wall though.

by boat

fearrua · 16-06-2014 10:10pm

Here, where the flip has Gendry Baratheon been this season?

MagicMarker · 16-06-2014 10:11pm

Can someone confirm for me if John Snow knows about his brother and stepmother?

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 10:15pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Can someone confirm for me if John Snow knows about his brother and stepmother?

He knows nothing.

But yes, he and Sam were discussing it in his first appearance this season.

Da Shins Kelly · 16-06-2014 10:18pm

seligehgit wrote: »

She'd built a strong bond with him and despite having him on her list did'nt have the heart to do it...

No, I think it was because he said all those horrible things to her about raping Sansa, etc. He was trying to provoke her into killing him, but it backfired. After hearing him spout all that horrible stuff, she probably thought a slow and painful death was the best thing for him.

Funnyonion79 · 16-06-2014 10:19pm

Loved loved loved that finale. It has left me completely satisfied but of course impatient for Season 5! Lots of loose ends tied up. Delighted Tyrion was set free and got his revenge on Tywin. Can't believe Shae - such a betrayal!

Defo think Bran will be able to control Dani's dragons and I think he's destined to become that old guy's replacement.

When that first skeleton hand popped up out of the ground, I nearly s**t myself! Great fight scene with them. Are they wights as well - part of the white walkers?

Brilliant fight scene with the Hound and Brienne. It was so realistic and they were so evenly matched. I was a bit shocked that Arya was so cold towards him and wouldn't kill him to put him out of his misery. I thought they'd developed a bond but I guess she's seen so many friends die and her family torn apart that she's numb now and for her own self-preservation, won't let herself feel anything for anyone any more. She trusts nobody - much like Sansa. The only people they can trust or rely on is themselves. Delighted Arya is off to Bravos - hope she meets up with J'haquen again.

I love the Hound's lines - he tells it how it is

Cersai will now control Kings Landing through Tommen and Jamie will be the Hand. Love Jamie - he's proven himself to be a true knight, honourable and valient, protecting his brother. He's one of my favourite characters.

Great finale - enjoyed every bit of it. Onto the books now I think!

Gadgie · 16-06-2014 10:20pm

fearrua wrote: »

Here, where the flip has Gendry Baratheon been this season?

Still rowing...

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 10:20pm

fearrua wrote: »

Here, where the flip has Gendry Baratheon been this season?

Probably chillin on his boat still :pac:

seligehgit · 16-06-2014 10:22pm

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I think it's becoming more apparent that Bran is special in some way. Is there a possibility that that loose dragon belonging to Daenarys could fall into his hands? His visions show an aerial view of what looks like King's Landing and the shadow of a dragon underneath, and the three-eyed raven said he'd never walk again but he'd fly. Might he inhabit the mind of that dragon?

Excellent hypothesis

OneOfThem Stumbled · 16-06-2014 10:26pm

iamanengine wrote: »

Probably chillin on his boat still :pac:

Don't forget:
Lancel Lannister (last seen Battle of Blackwater)
The Blackfish (last seen Red Wedding)
GreatJohn Umber (last seen... damn so long I can't remember)
Sir Kevan Lannister (last seen at Harrenhal)

and last, but by no means least

Benjen Stark

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 10:29pm

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

Don't forget:
Lancel Lannister (last seen Battle of Blackwater)
The Blackfish (last seen Red Wedding)
GreatJohn Umber (last seen... damn so long I can't remember)
Sir Kevan Lannister (last seen at Harrenhal)

and last, but by no means least

Benjen Stark

And Edmure Tully! Although you'd imagine he is still chilling in a dungeon with the Freys!

Da Shins Kelly · 16-06-2014 10:29pm

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

Don't forget:
Lancel Lannister (last seen Battle of Blackwater)
The Blackfish (last seen Red Wedding)
GreatJohn Umber (last seen... damn so long I can't remember)
Sir Kevan Lannister (last seen at Harrenhal)

and last, but by no means least

Benjen Stark

Who's Benjen Stark?? (I'm so bad with the minor characters!)

FixitFelix · 16-06-2014 10:29pm

Do you lads know what book to get to continue on from season 4? Can't wait a year for season 5, and by the way Tyrian is a cold ass mother5ucker

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 10:30pm

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Who's Benjen Stark?? (I'm so bad with the minor characters!)

Jons uncle who was a ranger for the watch and went missing early in season 1! I assumed he was just dead tbh!

Degag · 16-06-2014 10:35pm

wprathead wrote: »

I deffo felt for the hound, fact he said she was under "his protection" - and when Brienne said she was looking for Ayra and had an oath he didn't try and "sell" Ayra to her.. Ofcourse he then recognised Jamies sword and got paranoid she was there for the bounty on his head - but I like to think he fought to protect Ayra from someone he thoughts was with the Lannisters

I think he definately had grown fond of her in his own way and was pretty protective of her in the end.

Still have hopes that he somehow makes it. My favourite character:(

iamanengine · 16-06-2014 10:38pm

Do you think when the old guy told Bran he was going to fly he means hes going to be dropped through the moon door? :pac:

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GoT Illiterate Season 4 finale HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS