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3G/HSPA Routers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 barro32


    I just moved into a fairly big, old house with thick walls and afraid wireless G wont cut the mustard.
    So looking for a good N router with 3G compatibility.


    It seems the Aztech HW550 is the best option but I can't find one for sale in Ireland.
    Someone said they got one in this forum, from where??



    According to previous posts and cnet, the Edimax 6200n is not great.

    Are there any other good 3G Wireless N routers that I'm missing?
    They're hard things to find!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    'Big old house with thick walls' = 1 Cat 5 cable and a Wireless G AP ( on different channels) at each end of the house coz one simply will not cut it .

    N would be worse if it runs at the higher frequency = less penetration :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 barro32


    I didn't know that about wireless N's penetration, thanks.

    How come the Dovado is so expensive (€130) compared to the two I mentioned for about £50 on amazon.co.uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    barro32 wrote: »
    I didn't know that about wireless N's penetration, thanks.

    How come the Dovado is so expensive (€130) compared to the two I mentioned for about £50 on amazon.co.uk

    The Dovado hardware is cheap. The reason it's more expensive is because you're paying for their support. Simply put, their firmware is the best, and supports the most modems. It's worth paying extra for good firmware and support.

    This has nothing to do with N and everything to do with physics: 5 versus 2.4 gigahertz. In fact, N will give you significantly more coverage and longer range on both frequencies compared to previous wireless standards.

    All N routers and equipment I have seen can run at 2.4 gigahertz as well. In fact, only the more expensive routers can also run at 5 gigahertz.

    So what's the advantage of 5 gigahertz? Simple: congestion. This band is relatively free of congestion. There's also a lot more frequencies in this band available, so you can achieve higher speeds as well. It's especially useful if you're setting up a wireless network in a built up area where your neighbors have video senders and all kinds of equipment on 2.4 gigahertz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Hello all and thanks for all the useful info so far. Alas even after implementing same I can't get 02 sierra 888 and the edimax 6200n to play together (after many fruitless hours).
    The story so far is that I can get the sierra to work without a hitch on a pc and macbook pro. No dice on the edimax on quick start mode. The card fails to connect message appears after the 2-3 minute setup process. I upgraded to 2.12 firmware and then downgraded to 2.11 as per instructions from edimax uk support (the irish support no. they gave me didn't connect to any known phone line). Not being IT literate I'm not sure what approach to take to troubleshoot this, beyond taking advantage of carphonewarehouse 7 day return policy.
    I have a feeling that I am overlooking something very simple. Any nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated

    regards Pat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Hi Pat,

    I had a similar problem with lite as well but in my case it wouldn't auto reconnect. I went with the Dovado from http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/, it does have your modem listed as a support modem, http://www.dovado.com/umrmodems.html.

    It's €30 more but you wouldn't be wasting time with support trying to get it working.

    Just my two cent.

    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Hi Pat,

    I had a similar problem with lite as well but in my case it wouldn't auto reconnect. I went with the Dovado from http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/, it does have your modem listed as a support modem, http://www.dovado.com/umrmodems.html.

    It's €30 more but you wouldn't be wasting time with support trying to get it working.

    Just my two cent.

    Jim

    Thanks Jim for the swift reply. definitely an option. Edimax does report that it supports the 888 tho' on their site so if any one can give me a simpletons step by step of the things I need to configure. A couple of things that scuppered me were 'turn radio off on exit' from direct connection caused the modem not to start initialising when attached to the router. Also disabling pin helped as well (I think but since I've gotten nowhere who knows!).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Are you sure the sim card is working? Why not try the modem directly connected to your PC?

    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Hi Jim, the modem works fine directly connected to all the computers in the house. Figured it would be best bang for buck to throw in a 3g router to have them all talkin (btw which they do, but not to the outside world, alas). I really do think it's some simple network configuration thingy that I am unaware of.


    In hope Pat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Pat,

    Ok so we know the sim card work, the modem and your computers can connect to the router. So the router can't connect to the outside world - have you set the APN in the router?

    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Thanks for your help Jim. I set APN to ireland and open.ireland at various attempts to connect. Neither facilitated the jump to the outside world.

    Pat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Hi,

    Here's a list of APN for O2 and other Irish networks.

    http://3g-router.ie/2009/02/whats-my-apn/

    APN for O2 is open.internet

    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Forgive my apparent stupidity but I did use 'internet' and 'open.internet' and not the above.

    Pat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Well, all I can suggest is that you run the wizard on the router again and test it. If it doesn't work upgrade the router to the latest firmware if you haven't already. Try it again, after that I would suggest returning the router and getting your money back.

    I favour the Dovado router because bar that it works, it has built in software that reboots the modems and if required itself if the 3G connection is lost. I found with other routers I had to do the reboot myself or physical turn off the router to do it. Not much good for me when the router is in the attic.

    Another good site for support if http://www.protonic.com, you have to sign up for free but they wouldn't spam or sell your email address. I do support there myself and it's a trustworthy site.

    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 westerneyes


    Thanks for sticking with it and all your good advice.
    Router on way back.

    Regards Pat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭mcw92


    i have a vodafone 3g pay monthly broadband modem.
    it is the model, HUAWEI K3520.
    i currently have it set up on my macbook, whilst sharing it out through wifi.
    i have the ps3, ipod touch, sisters netbook and brothers samsung jet all able to connect to it easily.:)
    but to do this it requires me to leave my macbook it the same spot(for best coverage) all day long, which i am not to happy about.
    i was wondering is their any router i could get that would share the 3g broadband around the house as wifi(the same as my macbook does) and be able to connect multiple devices to it at once(all listed above and more)?
    there could be up to 5 devices accessing the wifi at once sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Kbeg3


    Read the sticky at the top of the forum. It covers all the routers around. :)

    I have a Edimax 3g-6200n which I got from Amazon and it's working well


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 em09


    hi, can anybody tell me if i had one of these wireless router and my o2 3g mobile modem could i connect to my ps3 and play online gaming??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    You could try Edimax 3g-6200n or Dovado routers. All should work fine with any wireless or wired network.

    Jim


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 rivermist


    hi
    i saw your post trying to solve a problem im having, i use 3g vodaphone stick and its constantly dropping out and requiring a pc reboot to come back i have it set to connect automatically but it does not. did your router work for you in the end and does it automatically try to reconnect the dongle in the software as thats my problem with the stick i feel and vodaphone are just not able to help me
    thanks
    can you reply direct to rivermistmedia@gmail.com


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14 rivermist


    hi jim

    do you know of a router that automatically tries to reestablish the 3g signal from vodaphone if it drops out . i have a pc that i need to dial into remotely (miles away) and when the signal drops out it requires me to go there and rebooth the pc before the system will again try for the 3g it is set to automatically connect but most of the time it seems to sit there and wont connect or say 'no device' i have changed the dongle and vodaphone simply say the donge is designed to automatically disconnect after 24 hours
    can you help
    john


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Hi,

    Yes the Dovado did automatically reboot the modem and itself if required. It's more costly then the others but none of the others had this ability. As I'm on the edge of the 3G coverage I had to put the router in the attic to get the best signal, I couldn't be going up there rebooting it each time it dropped connection.

    http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/dovado.php

    Jim


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 rivermist


    hi jim
    i just spoke to gerry in clare and he was very helpful i think it will solve it
    many many thanks
    john


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Hi John,

    Gerry was extremely helpful to me as well. Found him very professional.

    Also I found it useful to register for the latest firmware releases to keep the device up to date. http://www.dovado.com/UMR_Firmware.html

    Jim


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 rivermist


    its by each other we live jim thanks again
    john


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭DominoDub


    This maybe of use to people trying to get a Netgear MBR624GU router working.

    mbr624gu_diagram1.jpg

    mbr624gu_diagram2_2.jpg

    http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/3GMobileBroadband/MBR624GU.aspx


    Using it as a quick remote site Lan setup !

    My working Settings are:

    Working using a Huawei k3520 from Vodafone (K3675 will not work!)

    username: vodafone
    password: vodafone
    country (I had to use UK - no Ireland option)
    vodafone(contract)
    apn: hs.vodafone.ie
    access no.: *99*1#
    PIN: 0000
    PDP type: IP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭cerbeus


    What wireless router works best with a 3 E122 modem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Bought this last week:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-3G-6200N-nLite-Broadband-Router/dp/B002GNHOCQ

    Using E160g modem on Three. Easy setup, just plug it all in, runthe cd wizard. I did need to uninstall the modem software and connection from my pc to get it working. Very happy with it so far. 58 euro delivered in 3 days, could have been even cheaper if I didnt go for quick delivery.

    Using a wired connection to my ps3 to play Fifa10 online and Ive had no problems with Fifa online so far. I have noticed the internet connection not being available when first connecting and its taken a few resets to get around it. Still trying to work out what is causing that. Other than that, very happy with this purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭EAFC_rdfl


    I have the three E122 modem, and wondered if this router would work to share out my connection:
    ebay link

    Anyone used or heard about them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It's either this Solwise 3G router, or a copy of it
    http://www.solwise.co.uk/3g-routers-3g11nmrw.htm
    3gnmrw-psu-attached-small.gif

    There is no way of knowing what modems it supports unless you
    * ask the seller
    * Seller is honest
    * Seller checks setup web page in the Router.

    You are better buying a "branded" router with known list of Modems.

    The Solwise one has been out a long time and earlier in this thread.

    Another cheap one is Edimax.

    Dovado isn't cheap, but has good support.

    Netgear, Cisco/Linksys and Dlink also. Dlink can be good or bad depending on model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭EAFC_rdfl


    watty wrote: »
    It's either this Solwise 3G router, or a copy of it
    http://www.solwise.co.uk/3g-routers-3g11nmrw.htm
    3gnmrw-psu-attached-small.gif

    There is no way of knowing what modems it supports unless you
    * ask the seller
    * Seller is honest
    * Seller checks setup web page in the Router.

    You are better buying a "branded" router with known list of Modems.

    The Solwise one has been out a long time and earlier in this thread.

    Another cheap one is Edimax.

    Dovado isn't cheap, but has good support.

    Netgear, Cisco/Linksys and Dlink also. Dlink can be good or bad depending on model.
    cheers for the response watty. Here's the exact model's website:
    http://www.sapido.com.tw/EN/productrb1132o_35g.htm
    and heres a list of supported modems from the FAQ:
    http://www.sapido.com.tw/EN/faq/solution-210.htm

    the E122 isnt listed there, so I guess I might as well return it, and try out one of those you mention that does support the E122.

    For now, when I connect the modem into the router, the blue light just flashes and never goes constant. I can connect to the router no bother, but no connection onwards from the router. Ive been through the set-up a few times and I think I have everything configured right (APN etc), so I think I'll give up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    Watty, or anyone else with knowledge:
    Can anyone suggest a router that has circuitry so when the USB 3G stick crashes or gets itself into an unstable state where internet access fails, it can power cycle the USB device?

    Or should I start looking for a PCMICA modem and router?

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    PCMCIA's are not going to help.

    Ask the Dovado folks what theirs does.

    Also if you get a router that can run OpenWRT (or dedicate an Linux Netbook as a Router) its possible to reinitalise (but not power cycle). Onnly some models take OpenWRT and the list of supported USB modems is then the OpenWRT list, not the Manufactuer's firmware list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    watty wrote: »
    PCMCIA's are not going to help.

    Ask the Dovado folks what theirs does.

    Also if you get a router that can run OpenWRT (or dedicate an Linux Netbook as a Router) its possible to reinitalise (but not power cycle). Onnly some models take OpenWRT and the list of supported USB modems is then the OpenWRT list, not the Manufactuer's firmware list.

    Thanks for the tip.
    Sadly what I have is a common problem and still one that nobody seems (I really hope I'm wrong) to have engineered circuitry to deal with.

    From http://www.dovado.com/3GN_Support.html#routerdrop
    When a USB modem's internal chipset causes itself to "crash" during operation, then all of its interfaces with the router will disconnect, and the router will lose its ability to reinitialize the USB modem.

    The router will not be able to remedy the issue until a repowering of the router has taken place. Unfortunately, a soft restart won't repower the USB modem that has suspended in operation.

    And I have to power cycle the Dovado far too often.

    I was really really hoping somebody would know of a device that had the circuitry to power cycle as all Huawei devices I've owned crash at some point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    I'm looking to get a 3G/ADSL router combo which will works with both 3G alone and with ADSL with the 3G as an Auto-Backup. I'm based in Portugal so some of the devices mentioned above wouldn't be viable here I think. My 3G dongle is an Huawei E1750.

    Two 3g Routers which list my device as compatible that I was consdiering are
    the Billion bipac 740NX http://www.billion.uk.com/product/3g/7402nx.htm. I read it needs to have an active ADSL connection to set up which is a bit of a pain seeing as I don't have one at present but will do a few months down the line.

    I was also considering the much cheaper Zoom Model 4501 3G Wireless-N Desktop Router http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wireless-routers/275743/zoom-model-4501-3g-wireless-n-desktop-router but that doesn't have an inbuilt ADSL modem, though this mightn't be a problem as I could possibly make use of my existing ADSL modem as according to its Amazon description "You can even plug the Router into the Ethernet port of an ADSL modem or cable modem so your 3G USB modem provides backup to your wired Internet connection."

    Would any of you gurus recommend either of those 2 or perhaps a better alternative?
    Thansk for any help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Just to give my two cents.. On the advice given here, I bought an

    Edimax nLite 3G-6200n router
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    from Peats (Newbridge) for 79 euros. Brought it home, hooked it up with LAN cable and my Huawei E160G (I'm on the 20 euro a month package with Three). Hopped on to the router (192.168.2.1) and configured the WAN | 3G/3.5G settings to the following:

    edimax_nlite_3g_6200n_settings.jpg

    3G Internet came up straight away, and I could see the IP address / subnet mask etc etc of the Three network (indicating it had connected)..

    Very easy setup, very cheap, nice looking router. So far, so good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭gary the great


    Lads I have a three mobile dongle and a meteor mobile dongle. I want to be sure that both these dongles will work with the router.

    I need a signal strong enough to get through 2 cardboard apartment walls and about 10metres distance, which one i best? Am looking at the Edimax 6100 and Zoom 3g Wireless initally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    HI all,

    trying to setup a 3g router "sapido sb-1132" with o2 broadband router "sierra compass 888"

    I put the following settings into the router


    3g HSPDA......
    pin XXXX
    APN open.internet
    username gprs
    password gprs
    phone number *09#

    it looks like the router is not talking to the modem. The power symbol on the router blinks orange. it should go blue to connect AFIK,


    Any ideas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    M5 wrote: »
    Any ideas?
    What provider are you with?


    Just an update on the Edimax nLite 3G-6200n router :

    It's been working good since I was last on here.. I find that every so often you need to plug out the router and plug it back in ... it seems that if the USB Huawei E160G loses signal , it takes a reboot for it to reinitialize and reconnect to the 3G network.. It doesnt seem to automatically re-connect after having a minor outage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    What provider are you with?


    Just an update on the Edimax nLite 3G-6200n router :

    It's been working good since I was last on here.. I find that every so often you need to plug out the router and plug it back in ... it seems that if the USB Huawei E160G loses signal , it takes a reboot for it to reinitialize and reconnect to the 3G network.. It doesnt seem to automatically re-connect after having a minor outage.

    Would you beleive when i removed the pin from the sim it worked fine. For some reason the router was not delivering the pin correctly to the modem.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Always use the PC utility to disable PIN use on any Mobile Modem SIM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Roscoboyle


    Is it possible to configure my wireless router D-Link (DIR 635) to route my new Huawei E122 modem dongle (3 network) wirelessly in the house? The router does have a usb port, but it's probably not originally intended for a 3g modem.
    If the configuration is possible then what are the (baby) steps I need to take? (You can safely presume a high level of ignorance on my part.) Thanks for any replies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    I don't know myself but I use this site for technical questions like that - http://www.protonic.com. You have to register but it is safe to do so. It's free - just a group of IT guys offering their time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    I think I'm getting fatigue from trying to find the pieces that are compatible together and available to buy and not too expensive. Really really hoping someone knows of the following:

    - 3G router
    - Takes a data card or has built in modem
    - If a data card, please recommend one. Can't even find the E600 on ebay!
    - Works on 3
    - Is not a USB device. So tired of crashy USB modems
    - connector for external antenna to boost hdspa reception

    Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 jimbuckleybarre


    Hi,

    Have a look at

    http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/dovado.php
    http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/antenna1.php

    I had it for over a year with Three - has a nice feature of rebooting the USB 3G modem if it can't get a signal and then after 3 attempts reboots itself. I used the E180 I believe - the high speed modem at the time from Three.

    It's not the cheapest router out there but I tried a few others including Edimax and Three's own wireless router and they were crap! This worked perfectly. Also has extra automated features - switching on lights at home etc.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Duckytech


    Hi,

    Have a look at

    http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/dovado.php
    http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/antenna1.php

    I had it for over a year with Three - has a nice feature of rebooting the USB 3G modem if it can't get a signal and then after 3 attempts reboots itself. I used the E180 I believe - the high speed modem at the time from Three.

    It's not the cheapest router out there but I tried a few others including Edimax and Three's own wireless router and they were crap! This worked perfectly. Also has extra automated features - switching on lights at home etc.

    Best of luck.


    +1 for Dovado.
    Nice reset feature as mentioned. Got the 4Gn Router for Vodafone dongle and havn't had any trouble since. Pricey as mentioned, but i reckon its worth it...for peace of mind!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 wohlgetan


    Duckytech wrote: »
    +1 for Dovado.
    Nice reset feature as mentioned. Got the 4Gn Router for Vodafone dongle and havn't had any trouble since. Pricey as mentioned, but i reckon its worth it...for peace of mind!

    Hi!

    thanks for the suggestions, I tried the Globesurfer III from O2 and it only fried the inital sim-card over a weekend but I wasn't satisfied with the 3G reception and the wifi reception inside the house either. Both the 3GN and of course the 4GN with their external wifi antennas will probably do a much better job, do they?

    And since I don't want to apply for an 18 month contract the Globesurfer will cost 129 Euro, in this case I'm far better of with the 3GN.

    I wonder which USB modem you would suggest, O2 is currently offering from Huawei the E1752c and E1752 and from Sierra Wireless the 888 and the 302. From general comparision I see no big difference, so why are they ranging from 39 to 99 Euros?

    Thanks in advance, wohlgetan

    PS: FYI The setting I bear in mind is replacing the landline by a 3G router and a combination of Skype-in and Skype-out. So far I've combined the Globesurfer with a RTX Dualphone 3088 which supports Skype without a PC and works with dect, just attach it to a Ethernet port.

    In this combination I pay 5.99 Euro per month for an europe wide landline flat with skype-out and additional 3.35 Euro per month for a irish skype-in landline number (021...). And the rate for calling irish mobiles is about 17.5 cent (netto, plus VAT). Add to that a 19.99 Euro PAYG or Bill Pay rate und thats it.

    If you don't need braodband and you can live with midband, it pays itself in the first six month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Hello.

    After some research from the guys on the Midband forum I need a router. I am with 3 using the e122 modem.

    The Router will be upstairs and I will be using the laptop downstairs. Whats the best router for picking up signal and giving it out. Price dont matter as I need good broadband.

    If I changed my modem would that be better again as in the usb. Would a newer modem work better.

    Anyway thanks lads.:)


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