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  • #602
    Ruu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    I assume he is talking about FSA.


  • #603
    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Ruu wrote: »
    I assume he is talking about FSA.

    Ah yeah, just looked in full site mode and that's one of his forums, makes sense. On mobile you have no idea who mods what.


  • #604
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Watches & Timepieces should have been under Collectibles & Antiques before the shake-up and certainly should go there now.

    Should go under Recreation and Hobbies as a separate forum instead of a sub


  • #605
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Watches & Timepieces should have been under Collectibles & Antiques before the shake-up and certainly should go there now.

    Recreation and hobbies seems like a better fit alright, though not as a sub forum of collectibles and antiques. It's got higher traffic than C&A and would likely loose traffic in such a move.

    I have to say I'm casually browsing far fewer forums these days. If I haven't got it in my list of subbed forums I'm not really bothering.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #606
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭trellheim


    I have to say I'm casually browsing far fewer forums these days.

    I think you have hit the nail on the head. Really interested to know whether this was the desired outcome, and if not, what are the reversion plans ?


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  • #607
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I really don't think it was the plan. Not by a long shot. The category rejig was long in coming and a bloody hard task and one that was done well IMH. The drop down thing another rejig that did need some tidying, but I feel it's made the community feel smaller for existing members and given we'd generally know where things were, it must be quite the navigation task for new folks.

    Again my take, but I feel Boards grew and thrived on its wide amount of forums that seemed a little haphazard and applying some time and motion GUI to that will not fare well in the longterm. We need more members joining and I don't think this an improvement. I really hope to be proven wrong in this, but I'm not so sure it will be :(. And I mean that :(. It feels like

    homer_jump_the_shark.gif

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #608
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Any chance of getting the unread forums asterisk on touch back working? It's very handy for less busy forums.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #609
    sentient_6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭sentient_6


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Any chance of getting the unread forums asterisk on touch back working? It's very handy for less busy forums.

    6 days ago I asked on this thread if the touch site issues are going to be fixed. The category headers appearing in the my forums list is annoying too.


  • #610
    crosstownk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I grumbled about the changes a few weeks ago but Im back with my tail between my legs because I've gotten used to it and it's grand. No biggie.
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  • #611
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    I still think it's crap.


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  • #612
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    I still think it's crap.

    It's starting to really annoy me at this point. All being lumped into one small space on an otherwise large screen


  • #613
    Hollister11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    It's starting to really annoy me at this point. All being lumped into one small space on an otherwise large screen

    Yea, its ridiculous. And i hate the Adverts.ie tab.


  • #614
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've ventured beyond My Forums in the last few weeks - and that's not me "fighting the power", it's just I can't be arsed trawling through a condensed single menu when there's no reason for it! It's not like Boards.ie is on physical pages with limited space.

    Would love to see the stats on traffic in the last few weeks though, particularly for the less popular forums (ie: not AH, Motors etc). What's even more frustrating is the attitude from the site staff to the whole thing and feedback its generated!


  • #615
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yip, my morning rounds during my tea of the site is pretty much restricted to My Forums and more time on other sites.

    If I need another I don't use the menu but type in the address bar. If it's not there I just don't bother.


  • #616
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Yip, my morning rounds during my tea of the site is pretty much restricted to My Forums and more time on other sites.

    If I need another I don't use the menu but type in the address bar. If it's not there I just don't bother.

    I think someone needs to ask the question how did people build up their list of My Forums?

    The way it is now I don't see how new users will ever get that far.


  • #617
    _Tombstone_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    What's even more frustrating is the attitude from the site staff to the whole thing and feedback its generated!
    +1. What is the actual sense in this?

    I had to do a search for Bargain Alerts after I noticed I hadn't checked it in over a week. lol. Couldn't find it.


  • #618
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    _Tombstone_ wrote: »
    I had to do a search for Bargain Alerts after I noticed I hadn't checked it in over a week. lol. Couldn't find it.
    Bargain Alerts is in the same place it always was (lol). Under Business & Finance; Consumer.

    Or you could just type "b-a-r" into the search box to get this:


    4MYzE3.png

    I suspect you were more interested in not finding it then finding it.


  • #619
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Its still pish.


    See the admins, cmods etc are still outraged by the lack of kool aid drinking among the congregation


  • #620
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Bambi wrote: »
    See the admins, cmods etc are still outraged by the lack of kool aid drinking among the congregation
    I've always agreed the new dropdown is not fit for purpose. But if people fail to find a regularly used forum that hasn't moved, I don't think that particular problem is with the site.


  • #621
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    All forums have moved!


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  • #622
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Any chance of a rough timeliness as to when we will see the end product?


  • #623
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    We have, by the way, since the changes went live, said that the current menu is not fit for purpose either, but no one seems to want to remember that when they're posting here. :)

    It's also made practically no difference to our overall traffic, so people are definitely browsing as much as ever, but that's not an excuse or a reason for further delay, just a reminder that once again, we are well aware it's not right and we are working on fixing it and that we have access to the big numbers which I would respectfully ask you to remember won't always line up with your individual experience of using the site day to day. Those same big numbers don't tell us the full tale either so I'd imagine the reality is somewhat in-between both sides of this - this is why you are always consulted when we make these changes folks.

    I'm not sure where we are with a timeline padd, but I'll do my best to get that answered tomorrow.


  • #624
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    The DRP tags don't match the categories now though.


  • #625
    Red Alert
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    Dav, perhaps you could revert it to the old bar until you get a better one? It has now been openly said that it's not working, so I presume that you can wind back to it in whatever source control system you're using?


  • #626
    Boards.ie: Chris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭Boards.ie: Chris


    Red Alert wrote: »
    Dav, perhaps you could revert it to the old bar until you get a better one? It has now been openly said that it's not working, so I presume that you can wind back to it in whatever source control system you're using?

    Given the need to revamp and rename the categories this was really the best option until the new setup gets rolled out. As Dav has said we are working on much better functionality for the menu but it's likely going to have to roll out with the new site design.

    For reference, this is how the old menu would look now if we left it be after the category changes:

    1133429463.png


  • #627
    Zymurgist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Zymurgist


    Are there any mock-ups of the new site design?


  • #628
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Boards.ie: Chris wrote: »
    For reference, this is how the old menu would look now if we left it be after the category changes:

    1133429463.png

    so, better then.
    why not do that?


  • #629
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,027 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    My gripe with the menu layout: while functionally it does better with touch screens on PCs Laptops and Tablets, all-around (mouse included) it annoyingly also ignores standard conventions - I hate it when that happens. That's why I prefer say SolidWorks to Creo for my work - One uses the same Human-Computer Interaction models as the Windows OS, and the other just said "Fcuk it, we'll try it ourselves," and made complete pants of it. For example: Start areas of programs, and Menus. Start areas are usually either located in corners or very prominent in the middle (like the dock in OSX). The Topics drop-menu is difficult enough to see up there: when you think about it, it either needs to be on the Left where "Talk to..." is, where most new users will instinctively first look for it, or in the right, where "Adverts.ie" is, because that's where the "My Forums" customizable menu is, which would be very functional.

    Also, "=" (3 horizontal lines) has unwittingly and universally become accepted as the new icon for "Menu," in the current era. It's also used on the touch site, my feeling is the 2 versions of the site should use that button consistently.


  • #630
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,497 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    so, better then.
    why not do that?
    Is it better? We've already seen a number of posters complaining about the hover feature which often results in the wrong sub menu appearing. Having 4 on top of each other would be a disaster unless you drop the hover feature altogether (which then adds another click to the process which seems to defeat the object)


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  • #631
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Overheal wrote: »
    Also, "=" (3 horizontal lines) has unwittingly and universally become accepted as the new icon for "Menu," in the current era.

    I don't care how special a character is, I hope they never develop any form of wit! :p


  • #632
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Overheal wrote: »
    Also, "=" (3 horizontal lines) has unwittingly and universally become accepted as the new icon for "Menu," in the current era. It's also used on the touch site, my feeling is the 2 versions of the site should use that button consistently.
    Judging by the official mockups, that is going to be the case.

    After which all the dislike for the way the top bar is at the moment will be moot (and replaced by dislike for something else, no doubt!)


  • #633
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Boards.ie --> Hosted --> Categories are still the same as the old ones, should they not be mirroring the new Cat headings?


  • #634
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    This menu fiasco is still a total jokeshop. Must be getting your staff in lucky bags to be coming up with that class of thing

    Change it back ta f**k


  • #635
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I was browsing through the A-Z forum list on the touch site and when I clicked on a few of them they brought me straight to adverts. For example, I clicked on Books & Magazines and was brought to the section on adverts selling books etc.

    It's all well and good having an adverts section but I don't think they should be mixed in with the forum list. This could be confusing and off-putting for new users. If I was a new user who wanted to talk about books and I clicked a link that brought me to adverts, I'd be immediately put off and go elsewhere.
    Just a thought.


  • #636
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I was browsing through the A-Z forum list on the touch site and when I clicked on a few of them they brought me straight to adverts. For example, I clicked on Books & Magazines and was brought to the section on adverts selling books etc.

    It's all well and good having an adverts section but I don't think they should be mixed in with the forum list. This could be confusing and off-putting for new users. If I was a new user who wanted to talk about books and I clicked a link that brought me to adverts, I'd be immediately put off and go elsewhere.
    Just a thought.

    That's a bug, thanks for spotting it!


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  • #637
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Dav wrote: »
    OK, folks, once again, this "Topics in one list" thing is temporary, we're weeks rather than months away from the new site design rolling out, but we might be able to divert some time into making a better listing of the topics.

    Hi Dav, something I thought about today, any progress on this update?


  • #638
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    We're beta testing the first parts of it at the moment :)


  • #639
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Not sure if this has been noted but there is a Help Forum, a Feedback Forum and a Help & Feedback forum.

    I guess I know where to post if I want to get both help and give feedback ;)


  • #640
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,497 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    MadsL wrote: »
    Not sure if this has been noted but there is a Help Forum, a Feedback Forum and a Help & Feedback forum.

    I guess I know where to post if I want to get both help and give feedback ;)
    There's nothing in the Help & Feedback forum and no ability to post at present - think it only appeared a week or so ago. I am assuming the Help Desk and Feedback forums will be dropped beneath it in due course.


  • #641
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    There's an update rolling out today that will tidy up the Boards.ie category. It's taken a bit longer cause things like Post of the Day and Thread of the day are generated by VBulletin, so Andres has had to write code to manage that for the new site too. When it's done you'll see those changes in the Boards.ie menu later today.


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  • #642
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I presume this is why this page just broke:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/

    If you go there now you're apparently logged out always. Logging in sends you to www.boards.ie/ instead. Even with a fresh login you're logged out once more upon return.


  • #643
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Spear wrote: »
    I presume this is why this page just broke:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/

    If you go there now you're apparently logged out always. Logging in sends you to www.boards.ie/ instead. Even with a fresh login you're logged out once more upon return.

    Working fine for me?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #644
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Working fine for me?

    I could it replicate it at will. After that I restarted my browser, going there kicked my out again, but after a login it stuck this time.


  • #645
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Spear wrote: »
    I presume this is why this page just broke:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/

    If you go there now you're apparently logged out always. Logging in sends you to www.boards.ie/ instead. Even with a fresh login you're logged out once more upon return.

    That still works ok for me with no log out issues.


  • #646
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    Spear wrote: »
    I presume this is why this page just broke:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/

    If you go there now you're apparently logged out always. Logging in sends you to www.boards.ie/ instead. Even with a fresh login you're logged out once more upon return.

    Are you using one of the old and unsupported skins?


  • #647
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Dav wrote: »
    Are you using one of the old and unsupported skins?

    I could recreate it both with and without, the skin had no impact. But it seems gone now. I've never seen it before or anything like it, and it was easily recreated at the time. Maybe just a transient oddity.


  • #648
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,333 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    The forum index link appears to have gone missing in the reorganization (it was useful for the "Mark all read" option) from the boards.ie drop down :(


  • #649
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    There's a Mark All Read in the menu under your username on the top right (second last option before Logout).


  • #650
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    The New Posts link seems to have disappeared.


  • #651
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    It's right there in the "What's New" section.


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