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OK Curran, Carpro advice.

  • 03-04-2015 8:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭


    New car coming in August.
    White
    Almost white leather interior.
    Alloys
    I am thinking of total Carpro treatment.

    Everything will be done by hand.

    Walk /talk me through what I will need and application instructions.

    Yes, You can pretend I am a newbie :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


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    :P I'll do you up a reply when I get to a keybkeyboard! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Curran wrote: »
    :P I'll do you up a reply when I get to a keybkeyboard! ;)

    A spell-checker would be handy too :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Total CarPro Treatment?? Everything? Paint, Wheels, Trim, Glass, Leather, Tyres and Engine plastics?? :P

    Paint
    You know the ins and outs of requesting the car not to be touched by the garage on delivery, etc
    You dont need the full run down on how to prepare the paintwork....Wash, De-Iron, Rinse, Clay, Wash, Dry....there should obviously be no tar, or a need to polish.

    So after the surface has been prep'd you'll need to do a wipedown to ensure the best possible bond of the coating; CarPro's Eraser is the wipedown in the range, but you know yourself what can be used in place....the coating comes with some, so perhaps one wipedown with something and a 2nd with Eraser to ensure 100% coverage.
    CarPro CQUK is quite easy to apply, you know yourself, not to drown the applicator (or suede cloth in this case), and ensure even coverage
    This will visualise the application for you! As you can see, curing time is short, but may be a bit longer depending on the weather.



    Wheels & Trim
    Good news, CarPro DLUX is a dual product; so can be used on Wheels and Trim; though I doubt there is much, if any that needs coating...the roof bars if you are getting the estate??
    Essentially the prep is the same - good good clean (IronX the wheels), rinse, dry, Eraser wipedown and apply.





    Glass
    Dont know if its something you considered? Or even like on your glass, but there are two options in the CarPro range
    Flyby Forte - the more durable of the two options, but beading happens at slightly higher speeds
    Flyby 30 - still a durable choice, but beading happens at 30+mph

    As ever, the prep is the key!
    Before starting – empty your washer bottle, refill with just water and empty again….then fill with just water; should be sufficient to keep the glass clean.
    Give the wipers a wipe down with Eraser also, if you’ve some left over at the end, use the damp applicator, to give the wiper blades (when dry) a light rub also, this will help.



    See how, once the coating is applied, it doesn’t take much time to cure….it needs to set slightly and then buffed off, to ensure that any high spots during application are levelled by the buffing and this cant happen if the coating has hardened.
    Therefore, if you are applying it to all the windows, it makes sense, to do as much prep as possible at the one time….but the coating needs to be done in sections, as you couldn’t apply it to all the windows in time to go back to the first window to buff it, so applying the coating needs to be done, one window at a time and half and half when on the windscreen or rear window…..however, the prep work can all be done at one time – wash all the windows, polish them, wash them, Eraser wipe down….then apply a window at a time.

    The product dries hard, and crystalizes, so any applicators or buffing cloths should be binned if the product dries – just in case you planned to keep them for paintwork – it would scratch it!

    Leather
    Dont have the Cquartz Leather & Vinyl Coat, but can have it in before August. Dr. Leather Dye Block is a simialr product.

    With lighter colour leathers, the colour transfer from jeans etc, is the biggest problem. While a coating like these will help limit that slightly, the benefit of having them applied is seen when trying to clean the seats, rather than preventing it. With Dr. Leather Dye Block, the coating is unaffected by their cleaner product, which makes keeping the seats fresh an easy job.

    Tyres
    And engine bay plastics etc. CarPro PERL is the job; can be used neat for when its needed to be durable, or diluted slightly for engine bay plastics, or further again for interior, etc, if thats your thing....application is the same as any other products you have used.

    Maintenance
    As with any of the durable coating type products, its always best to use the correct maintenance products - like specific shampoos and quick detailers, etc.
    Traditional shampoos can clog the molecular links in the coating, and while it wont attack the coating, it will prevent the usual performance, of appearance and beading. And similar applies for any of the quick detailer / booster type products - choosing the wrong one here, may affect the coating, or have similar clogging effects.
    So Reset Shampoo and Reload Spray Sealant are what you want here. Reload cant be used as a stand alone product also, and is very durable. It contains fillers (not that you'll need them), enhances shine and is good for about 4-6 months.

    Prep - IronX and Eraser; thought you'll get small bottles of Eraser in kits, its handy to have more.
    Paint - CQUK, Reset & Reload
    Wheels & Trim - DLUX
    Tyres - PERL
    Glass - Flyby Forte or Flyby 30
    Leather - Dr. Leather Dye Block and Cleaner or CarPro Leather & Vinyl Coat


    Hope this helps, and any other questions, fire ahead :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Excellent.
    That CQUK & Dlux looks a lot easier to apply that the Wolfs stuff.
    I am assuming all of these can be used outdoors as no indoor place is available to me.

    Thanks for that, it give me lots to think about and consider to compile a fresh order shortly before the car arrives. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    vectra wrote: »
    I am assuming all of these can be used outdoors as no indoor place is available to me

    Yes, within reason, of course!
    You'll want to try get the best day possible, you know yourself - dry and not just for the application, but for the period of the curing time post buffing / between coats, also. Needs at least an hour after buffing before it can get wet, and ideally 24 hours, so if it does get wet, best to dry it after a rain shower. Another thing is, not to wash it for 7 days post application. As little wind (for dust) as possible, but given the quick curing time between application and buff, its not a massive issue. And a bit of warmth wouldnt do any harm, though you could be waiting for that day!

    CQUK is specifically designed for the type of climate we have, or the UK have. It is designed for the a quicker time between application and buffing than the regular Cquartz....as the climate here/UK is usually more colder, it can be applied from 3 Degrees Celsius upwards; most similar coatings prefer 15-20 upwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well that might suit me fine as August temps. are NORMALLY pretty good.
    The showers can be a bit dodgy though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    OK.
    Back on this.
    Car is just over 2 weeks away.
    Looking at :::

    IronX
    Eraser
    CQUK
    Reset....>>>>> I know you say same make products are best. But I have Bilt Hamber snow foam and Krystal Kleen cherry wash PH Neutral shampoo ( I got a gallon of this in a GB so sort of want to use it if ok ? )
    Reload
    Dlux
    Perl
    Flyby >>> Maybe.. I dont like the way wipers judder with screen sealants.. Does Flyby do this?

    Interior
    I have bought a full kit of LTT products that a guy was selling so am ok for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    The Bilt Hamber Auto Foam I would say will be OK, as they don't add any unnecessary additives to their products, for example for smell, or appearance. Just what they need to do the job.

    The Krystal Kleen Cherry Wash, I have no experience with. Dont think you'll run into too much issue using it on Reload. Does it have any gloss enhancing properties? As it's these kind of additives that will clog the nano links I'm the likes of CQUK.

    Flyby is down to correct application. It's applied in opposite directions; horizontally and then vertically. But the key is to the correct cure time. Leave it too long and the coating cures slightly uneven and this risks leaving a surface in a state that might lead to judder. Watch their application video on YouTube and you will get a very good idea of what's required. The cure time is surprisingly short, and this can catch out a few people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well
    Ordered placed.
    Now to wait for the Passat and the good weather :P
    Thanks for the advice Curran.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Forgot to ask ,

    Dlux or CQUK on the shiney plastic trim on the Doors?

    One or 2 coats of CQUK ans Dlux?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Have you a picture of what you mean?

    I think I know the type of finish that you are questioning and want to be sure....if it's what I think it is, it falls between both, probably the CQUK would be better suited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Curran wrote: »
    Have you a picture of what you mean?

    I think I know the type of finish that you are questioning and want to be sure....if it's what I think it is, it falls between both, probably the CQUK would be better suited.

    Between the windows.
    Shiny plastic shi7e

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Aye; CQUK would be the one to use!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Curran wrote: »
    Aye; CQUK would be the one to use!! ;)

    Eraser first then cquk?
    Can I assume this would give some "anti Swirl" protection to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Yeah; anywhere you are applying CQUK or DLUX, it's best to ensure a good surface, by using Eraser! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well,
    To follow on from this thread I copied and pasted this part on prep and applictaion

    Today looked ok but bit cloudy,
    Decided to chance it anyway. As I already had it prepped the other day I rinsed it down and gave it 2 wipedowns with Carpro Eraser

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    Gave it a coat of Carpro CQUK,
    What I would say it this product is Tedious but simple to use.
    Half bonnet,,, buff.. Other half ... Buff
    Half roof,,,, Buff and so on. You get the idea.

    Once the full car was coated, I had lunch
    One hour between layers is recommended, I gave it almost 2 hours.
    Repeated the above process in the same order as the first coat.

    Once finished I dressed the tyres and polished the windows. Had a few jobs to do around the house so took up another hour and 25 minutes

    Then gave it a once over with Carpro Reload.

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    Basically mist on, Spread with MF cloth and buff with another MF.

    Both products are basically wipe on wipe off.
    Would I use them again?
    Most certainly yes.
    Playing the waiting game now to see the water behaviour.


    Next and possibly the final stage will be the engine bay with Dlux. :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Over a week later with plenty of dust having settled on it I went shopping today with my wife.
    100kms in horrible rain and spray,
    Could not see 4 cars in front of me.
    Came home and scratched my head wondering why the car was not dirty

    So far I am very pleased with these products.

    Bonnet still beading nicely and still not washed

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    Roof unwashed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Gavman84


    I'd say you have had plenty water since to check for beading!! :D:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Any dirt after the water has dried in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Any dirt after the water has dried in?

    Only on the tyres.

    Normal dirt on wheels which will be washed off afterwards.
    This is what I am interested in seeing, just how easy it will be ( should be ) to wash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    So kind of you to be the guinea pig


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well,
    If anyone is following my steps, the one part I would strongly advise to change would be to use Carpro Perl on the tyres..!!!
    Total disaster.

    Looked nice when done but after a trip yesterday in the rain they were brown. Looked like I was after doing a forestry stage. :D

    Anyhow, Gave it a wash today.

    This is how the tyres looked after the rain,

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    50 / 50 shot
    Nothing used only pressure water.

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    After foam with no scrubbing.
    Came up very well.

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    On to the paintwork
    Foamed
    Pressure washed off
    washed with Krystal Klean PH neutral shampoo

    Beading and sheeting is awesome.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Fantastic on the wheels and bodywork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Fantastic on the wheels and bodywork


    Liking the way it is working so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    Why did the tyres go brown?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    Some dogs took a piss on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Thats a very strange reaction on the tyres - I'll look into that! ;)

    Looking very well otherwise! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well.
    over a month has passed since I applied these products.
    So far I am more than happy at how clean the car and whleels stay, but I am more than happy at the ease of washing.

    Had a trip to Swords and back last Sunday.

    I thought the summer was the season of damned flies but my windscreen was in some state by the time we got home.
    I also couldn't believe the amount of them on the front bumper and mirrors.:eek:

    So,
    Got lazy yesterday and allowed them to get baked on with the sun :p

    Today i decided to test how good Cquk and Dlux are with just a snowfoam and pressure wash.

    I did wash it after these pics and video as there were a few persistant soot spots from my neighbours chimney.

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    50 / 50 foamed and pressure rinsed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    You'd do anything for an easy life! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Curran wrote: »
    You'd do anything for an easy life! :D

    Blame Carpro.
    Their products put me in this situation Haha :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Hi lads,
    Cheers for the gold mine of info so far in this thread and indeed the forum in general.

    Vectra/Curran. I was reading the instructions on applying CQUK and it states that if any water gets on the car in the 24 hour period while the product is curing/hardening that you have to wipe it off.
    Seeing as dew begins to form at around six pm these days is it just the wrong time of year to be applying it? Indoors isn't an option.
    Do I wait until Spring or is there another solution?
    Cheers and well wear on the car Vectra!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    They are the ideal conditions; not sure how much the dew would affect the car, say if you applied it early in the morning, and had about 8 hours of decent curing conditions. I can ask! ;)

    A car cover might improve things; but if it were me, Id wait until the conditions are prefect, and consider another option in the mean time to get you through the winter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    As Curran said. Get it done early.
    Apparently after one hour you are on ad long as it doesn't rain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Thanks lads. Appreciate the replies.
    I'll go for another option and wax it.
    One more coat and I'm done as I've already clayed and put one coat on a week or so ago.

    If I was too go to the bother of stripping everything off and then applying it and it didn't take because of the weather it would be an awful waste of time and money. I'd end up trying to get the coating off and then waxing it again.

    Thanks once more!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well,
    Almost 2 months on.
    Car was pretty filthy today by my standards.
    Gave it a foaming with Bilt Hamber foam.
    Left it dwell for 4 minutes.
    Rinsed with pressure washer,
    Unfortunately this time I had to give it a good washing as well as it was literally destroyed in soot as well as road dirt.
    But, to be fair, the only thing left to was were the soot stains. ( Some of them as the lighter ones came off with the rinse.)
    The wheel, again I snow foamed while doing the rest of the car, These got same dwell time and rinsed again. Nothing more was needed.

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    Quick blast of the washer resulted in this.

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    Washed and finished

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Some rewarding microbeads this morning to say "Thanks for washing me" :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    The CarPro stuff does really work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well
    Two months on,
    Hasn't been washed in almost a week and was filthy with dust. Then rain,,then wind and dust again,
    Got his nice beading shot yesterday.

    The only thing this has got since application is regular snow foaming and washing.
    It got one coat of Reload since application almost 3 weeks ago.

    Not bad if I do say so myself.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭Neilw


    What's on the paint, d-lux?

    How are you finding white to keep? I've the same colour ordered.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Neilw wrote: »
    What's on the paint, d-lux?

    How are you finding white to keep? I've the same colour ordered.

    Hi,
    The Dlux is on the wheels and the CQUK is on the paint.

    White is one of the eaisest color to keep believe it or not.
    That and silver.
    With the CQUK applied to the paint it is a breeze to keep,
    Pressure wash at the local wash bay would probably do most,
    But I have a certain neighbour with a very sooty chimney.
    You get the jist.
    But yes, The wash is simple. Come up spotless.

    Well worth using this combo, BUT, You would need inddoors to apply in in this weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭Neilw


    vectra wrote: »
    Hi,
    The Dlux is on the wheels and the CQUK is on the paint.

    White is one of the eaisest color to keep believe it or not.
    That and silver.
    With the CQUK applied to the paint it is a breeze to keep,
    Pressure wash at the local wash bay would probably do most,
    But I have a certain neighbour with a very sooty chimney.
    You get the jist.
    But yes, The wash is simple. Come up spotless.

    Well worth using this combo, BUT, You would need inddoors to apply in in this weather.

    I have an unopened dlux I'm going to coat the wheels with, I'll be able to take each wheel indoors to apply the coating.

    It's doubtful I would have room indoors for CQ application, I think for now I'll just use some HD wax on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Neilw wrote: »
    I have an unopened dlux I'm going to coat the wheels with, I'll be able to take each wheel indoors to apply the coating.

    It's doubtful I would have room indoors for CQ application, I think for now I'll just use some HD wax on it.

    Follow the instructions carefully.
    Wipe on- Wipe off. Don't delay in wiping off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭manonboard


    Curran wrote: »
    ...

    I learnt so much from your post! thank you very much for taking the time to write that n provide the links!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    manonboard wrote: »
    I learnt so much from your post! thank you very much for taking the time to write that n provide the links!


    I did as well.
    But then that is what this forum is really all about.
    Giving advice.:)

    Have you used some Carpro products?


  • Site Banned Posts: 137 ✭✭MaryAntoinette


    As your car is old now will you be using cheaper products?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,585 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    As your car is old now will you be using cheaper products?

    Yes of course.

    Basically only will be using
    Snow foam
    Shampoo
    and water as the cquk is still working as it should. :cool:
    Curran wrote: »
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    :pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    Picked up the wife's new Focus ST yesterday. Will be next Saturday before I get a chance to get protection on it. I intend to use CQUK on it when the weather allows so in the meantime I'm going to give it two coats of Collinite 845. However, I think I'll apply DLUX to the alloys and trim next weekend as I'll be able to remove the wheels and take them indoors. So, am I right in saying I'll need to de-iron and wash them, use IPA on them, allow to dry, then apply DLUX? Simple as that? Also, is bilt hamber snow foam the best to use after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Yeah, you have it right....CarPro Eraser can be used in place of IPA.
    Bilt Hamber Auto Foam is an ideal snow foam to use on cars with ceramic coating! ;)


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