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    #6032
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    iLaura wrote: »
    In terms of degree this is how its broken down;

    "Award Classification
    Cumulative QCA

    3.40 - 1.1

    3.00 - 2.1

    2.60 - 2.2

    2.00 - Third class honors", also known as a pass degree

    Plus there are discretionary bands of 0.1, so a QCA of 3.3 puts you in the running for a 1.1, but it's discretionary and subject to your department's criteria (For example, in CSIS if you have a QCA of 3.3, you'll more than likely be bumped up if your FYP has received an A2A2).


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    #6033
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    if your FYP has received an A2A2).

    I don't know about CSIS but I think it's really unfair that the FYPs are marked this year. Mine was changed only recently by my supervisor who will be correcting it. However, that supervisor hasn't a clue and will surely mess up the marking and/or not take into account the fact it was changed and therefore, even though all my work was done and relevant for the last one, it looks as though I've done nothing for this one. Not to mention the fact that I hadn't a clue what I was doing the whole time and drawing information out of my supervisor was like trying to pull wisdom teeth with your barehands...


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    #6034
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Plus there are discretionary bands of 0.1, so a QCA of 3.3 puts you in the running for a 1.1, but it's discretionary and subject to your department's criteria (For example, in CSIS if you have a QCA of 3.3, you'll more than likely be bumped up if your FYP has received an A2A2).

    I'm actually the education department rep, and there was a University board meeting concerning this lately. I can't remember the exact figure, but when you use the FYP for the discretionary band you're weighting the FYP x400 times its actual mark. And the use of the word discretionary was being debated as well, because the department aren't actually showing discretion when moving someone up a grade if they're focusing only on one aspect (or something along those lines)


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    #6035
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    iLaura wrote: »
    I'm actually the education department rep, and there was a University board meeting concerning this lately. I can't remember the exact figure, but when you use the FYP for the discretionary band you're weighting the FYP x400 times its actual mark. And the use of the word discretionary was being debated as well, because the department aren't actually showing discretion when moving someone up a grade if they're focusing only on one aspect (or something along those lines)

    Just to clarify, that's not the only criteria CSIS use, s'just the one I remembered off the top of my head. Another one is:

    "There exist clearly exceptional and mitigating circumstances which have been documented and which the CSIS Department’s Internal Examination Board accepts had a negative impact on the candidate’s performance in assessments and for which allowance has not already been made."

    But yeah, the FYP one is a bit weird, seems very harsh that if you're at 3.39 and you get a B1A2 in the FYP you, going by the regulations, don't get the higher award.

    Argh, I need to stop procrastinating and study! :D


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    #6036
    phish
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭phish


    iLaura wrote: »
    I'm actually the education department rep, and there was a University board meeting concerning this lately. I can't remember the exact figure, but when you use the FYP for the discretionary band you're weighting the FYP x400 times its actual mark. And the use of the word discretionary was being debated as well, because the department aren't actually showing discretion when moving someone up a grade if they're focusing only on one aspect (or something along those lines)

    As education department rep you don't by any chance know what the story is in the education department with discretionary bands? What is the criteria they look at?


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    #6037
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    phish wrote: »
    As education department rep you don't by any chance know what the story is in the education department with discretionary bands? What is the criteria they look at?

    I'm not 100% sure but they currently focus on FYP, which is silly IMO because not everyone does an education based FYP. There was talk the last day about it and Ollie McGarr was mentioning something about moving to the Health Science criteria, though I have zero idea what those are. The discretionary band is still 0.10 of the next degree. I'll hopefully know more next semester when there's more UTEB meetings and I can ask these questions :)


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    #6038
    onethreefive
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭onethreefive


    If I got a grade that corresponds to a 2.2 in 2 modules and then get a 1.1 corresponding grade in another 3 modules would that then give me a 2.1 overall? I'm not sure if that's how it works


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    #6039
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Analogue electronics was dreadful :(


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    #6040
    SuperNova1890
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SuperNova1890


    onethreefive wrote: »
    If I got a grade that corresponds to a 2.2 in 2 modules and then get a 1.1 corresponding grade in another 3 modules would that then give me a 2.1 overall? I'm not sure if that's how it works

    Short answer yes...

    To be honest you would have to calculate it... just add the module QCAs together and divide by number of modules.


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    #6041
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    onethreefive wrote: »
    If I got a grade that corresponds to a 2.2 in 2 modules and then get a 1.1 corresponding grade in another 3 modules would that then give me a 2.1 overall? I'm not sure if that's how it works

    Someone did out a QCA calculator which can be found here which may be of some help


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    #6042
    Chimaera
    Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    To the poster wondering about compensating fail grades: D1 and D2 grades are known as compensating fail grades. If you get a D1 or D2 in a module(s) you may still progress once your QCA for that semester is above 2.0; you are not obliged to clear them to progress. If your QCA is below 2.0 you will need to repeat them in order to progress.

    An F grade is an outright fail: you must repeat this in order to progress irrespective of your QCA.

    Repeats of fail grades are capped at C3 too.

    TBH, all of this stuff is in the Academic Handbook and it's quite well explained there. You're university students, you're supposed to be capable of independent research and reading!!


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    #6043
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Chimaera wrote: »

    TBH, all of this stuff is in the Academic Handbook and it's quite well explained there. You're university students, you're supposed to be capable of independent research and reading!!


    Finding out the answer is research.

    There's something about the "you're ****, you're suppose to be ****" that irks me, even if it's said in jest...


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    #6044
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    What sort of nerd wastes their time reading the Student Handbook when you can just ask on Boards? :P


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    #6045
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    What sort of nerd wastes their time reading the Student Handbook when you can just ask on Boards? :P

    I actually looked at the handbook today when they updated it...am I a nerd? D:


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    #6046
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    iLaura wrote: »
    I actually looked at the handbook today when they updated it...am I a nerd? D:

    Well we're using an internet forum that's not Facebook or Twitter. By definition, we're all nerds. :D


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    #6047
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Well we're using an internet forum that's not Facebook or Twitter. By definition, we're all nerds. :D

    Haha, that's very true. I hate bringing up something I saw on Boards in conversation 'cause then I've to explain what it is and generally get strange looks. But oh well :D


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    #6048
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    If I fail 3 exams, which is kinda looking like it really.. Could I still do semester 2 in Jan/Feb or do I have repeat the semester next year? I'm getting a load of conflicting information about this.


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    #6049
    Daniel S
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    If I fail 3 exams, which is kinda looking like it really.. Could I still do semester 2 in Jan/Feb or do I have repeat the semester next year? I'm getting a load of conflicting information about this.

    IIRC, I failed three in first semester of first year and repeated them all in August. Continued into semester two and didn't fail any.

    I think you're allowed repeat three in one semester or two in each?


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    #6050
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    If I fail 3 exams, which is kinda looking like it really.. Could I still do semester 2 in Jan/Feb or do I have repeat the semester next year? I'm getting a load of conflicting information about this.

    My understanding is:

    You can repeat them in August. However, if you were to fail more than one next semester, you'd have to repeat the year.

    The only time failing more than two modules in a semester is an instant year repeat is when you have Co-op or Erasmus in one semester.


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    #6051
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Daniel S wrote: »
    IIRC, I failed three in first semester of first year and repeated them all in August. Continued into semester two and didn't fail any.

    I think you're allowed repeat three in one semester or two in each?

    I was told that there's a max of two fails that you can have for each semester and you can repeat them in August.


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    #6052
    Chimaera
    Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    Pg. 33 of this:

    You're only allowed repeat 4 modules from the entire year. It's open to interpretation whether there's a limit of 2 per semester or not. This has been the subject of much discussion in the past and the handbook is not very clear on the matter.


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    #6053
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Chimaera wrote: »
    Pg. 33 of this:

    You're only allowed repeat 4 modules from the entire year. It's open to interpretation whether there's a limit of 2 per semester or not. This has been the subject of much discussion in the past and the handbook is not very clear on the matter.

    It says in the handbook that you can repeat a maximum of two modules from the Autumn Semester? :confused:


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    #6054
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    It says in the handbook that you can repeat a maximum of two modules from the Autumn Semester? :confused:

    My interpretation of that is that you can't progress to the next part of the programme if you've failed more than two modules. The "next part of the programme" would be Co-Op, clinical practice or TP.

    So, if you're on Co-op next semester and fail 3 exams, you've only done the Autumn Semester and can't progress to the next part of the programme because you've failed more than two.

    However, if you don't have Co-Op next semester you will get to do Spring semester, and as long as you don't fail two modules you'll be able to do the Annual Repeats (which you can do a maximum of 4 of in an academic year).


    TBH, my advice to you would be to not worry about it until the results come out. There's no sense worrying about it now because there's nothing you can do about it. Once the results are you'll get an immediate answer specific to your situation.

    You could also contact the SU education officer, who might have experience/know who to put you in contact with who can give you a definite anser.


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    #6055
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    My interpretation of that is that you can't progress to the next part of the programme if you've failed more than two modules. The "next part of the programme" would be Co-Op, clinical practice or TP.

    So, if you're on Co-op next semester and fail 3 exams, you've only done the Autumn Semester and can't progress to the next part of the programme because you've failed more than two.

    However, if you don't have Co-Op next semester you will get to do Spring semester, and as long as you don't fail two modules you'll be able to do the Annual Repeats (which you can do a maximum of 4 of in an academic year).


    TBH, my advice to you would be to not worry about it until the results come out. There's no sense worrying about it now because there's nothing you can do about it. Once the results are you'll get an immediate answer specific to your situation.

    You could also contact the SU education officer, who might have experience/know who to put you in contact with who can give you a definite anser.

    I know there's no point in getting myself worked up but 6 weeks is kinda a long wait and considering that my exams went awry, I just wanted to know a couple of things that could ease that worries I'll get in the next couple of weeks


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    #6056
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    My housemate has spent the last hour in the hallway, shaking a bag, clicking his fingers, going in and out slamming the doors, scrapping on something, before leaving and slamming the front door too... I have no idea what he's doing but it's absolutely ridiculous time in the morning to wake the entire house. One of the other housemates went out to talk to him but it didn't stop... I just wanna sleep :(


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    #6057
    Iranoutofideas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Burn the house down. That'll teach him.


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    #6058
    onethreefive
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭onethreefive


    Yesterday morning at 4am I was woke up by my house mate bringing about 6 people back. They went into the kitchen and kept me awake all night. I was up at 4am and had a test that evening. Now their all in the kitchen again so I'm stuck in my room :( Didn't even get an apology for waking me up at that time :p

    Woo a few of them have left :)


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    #6059
    iLaura
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭iLaura


    20 days after I first started my exams and an extremely horrible exam today, I am finally finished :D


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    #6060
    wnolan1992
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    CSIS is eerily quiet today.

    I've been in a lab since 8:30 and no-one else has come in.

    This would be in the Woo-Hoo thread, but OH DEAR JESUS IT'S COLD!


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    #6061
    Aragneer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Aragneer


    I'm so dumb...Gave myself and my FYP supervisor a deadline for Chapter two of the 21st of December. It is now the 22nd and I barely have 500 words done...Oops!

    Hopefully my good-natured e-mail to my supervisor to change that deadline and grant holiday wishes goes down well :P


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