Irish Promotions Thread Please read post 1 (*Mod Warning Post #3947)

endainoz · 23-02-2022 10:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118680889#Comment_118680889

We will see how they get on I guess. Young talent seems to be the target with the schools being open again. I take it you've disowned them as a company then? A shame the way things have gone but can understand it. Certain musicians who I used to idolize will never get a penny from me again so I can certainly relate.

LineOfBeauty · 23-02-2022 11:09pm

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Complete disagree. They did the half hearted PR post Speaking Out, then they run off a load of talents and rebook Davis and Devlin. Why should anybody support a company like that which contains people like that?

bennyl10 · 23-02-2022 11:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118680809#Comment_118680809

Devlin got a huge pop at the show last Saturday.

was really surprising!

bennyl10 · 23-02-2022 11:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118680889#Comment_118680889

They have,

bug they’re still on the verge off selling out scrapper, they’ve kept a decent following

as much as I wish they’d address the signing of Davis and Devlin

endainoz · 24-02-2022 12:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118681623#Comment_118681623

Does the other talent deserve to be ignored because of this though? I think most people's minds here are made up but I'll watch this show anyway.

B.A._Baracus · 24-02-2022 4:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118680133#Comment_118680133

Honestly? and this is only my opinion.... but if there is a significant number of people who left OTT, I highly doubt the majority did so from the #MeToo developments. The reasoning for this is that wrestling is such a 'me me me' thing. Wrestling is a very selfish thing all too often. Of course i'm sure the vast majority would agree that everything that happened with the whole metoo thing was wrong. But their own self-interests would come first (continuing on to hopefully get to wwe one day etc, sure i'm getting booked here etc)

I know some may disagree with that but in a sport where you can often see "I'm gonna make myself look good, even at the expense of you" can one really have much faith in peoples ethics.

But am curious, with all this talk, how many leaving we talking about? Is it a lot? or we talking about lil' seanie and his cousin martin who never had a match lol.

montyrebel · 04-03-2022 11:25am

see Session Moth Martina had a AEW Dark match against Diamante the other day, good to see her land on her feet after signing for ROH and then covid happened so never really got to work the states

NITRO95 · 04-03-2022 1:46pm

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The fact you have to ask who left shows you actually havnt got a clue what you are talking about. The rest of your post is pure speculation and waffle

rizzla · 04-03-2022 2:51pm

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Just a small correction it was Ruby Soho. Really looking forward to watching it too, I would be so happy for her if she got signed there.

B.A._Baracus · 05-03-2022 12:07pm

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Are rude sound bites all you can do? Lol.

But it's ironic. You say I don't have a clue - there's a TON of irony with what you just said.

Rabble rabble rabble. That's all you are. Stop me if I am wrong, some bloke who thinks he knows so much about wrestling but never took even one bump, right?

hynesie08 · 05-03-2022 12:30pm

I don't have a dog in this race, but comparing the lads who walked away after speaking out to Popeye and speedo leaving iww or someone leaving MSW Is at best naive and at worst willfully ignorant, the lads involved were at the top of the cards all over Europe, and spent any weekend they had free travelling to the UK to train under lads like Marty Jones and Robbie brookside, the more than hype lads would have smashed it in the USA as soon as the borders opened. the idea that this whole group just woke up one day and went "this is a bit **** innit" is fairly implausible.

B.A._Baracus · 05-03-2022 2:35pm

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Well with regards to my original post, I was just listing off several bullshiiitery things that goes on in wrestling. Many irish lads have quit over the last 20 years for various reasons. You of all people know many who have hynsie.

But you know what I just realised? ... who cares. Like what I mean is a few lads left a place because of their own reasons. Someone else will take their spot. More lads will start training. Some of them too will quit whenever due to their own reasons. Someone will take their spot etc etc.

beakerjoe · 05-03-2022 2:42pm

They left because of the scumbaggery.

People who were once loyal and supportive of OTT care, as a lot of fans have walked away from a scene they loved.

Fuck OTT, who would rather defend their scumbag mates and ignore their scumbag actions than set example for future wrestlers.

Irish wrestling scene is in the toilet.

hynesie08 · 05-03-2022 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118736532#Comment_118736532

Of course, a million lads have left for a million reasons, I packed it in twice and you had more returns than Tesco, but neither of us were at the level these lads were at.

And in the grand scheme of things, the wheels of Irish wrestling keeps turning and there'll be a new issue in 6 months, doesn't mean that the half dozen lads who should be leading a scene we once cared about walking away isn't a **** situation.

B.A._Baracus · 05-03-2022 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118736570#Comment_118736570

Truth be told Joe, there's always been an element of scumbaggery tho.

beakerjoe · 05-03-2022 2:54pm

Then shouldnt it be corrected rather than ignored, esp when fans and top prospects are walking away?

princeparsnips · 05-03-2022 3:03pm

Once covid hit I didn't really follow the Irish scene at all. I am curious who else has left the scene since? I saw Butch, Liam Royale and Nathan Martin mentioned here but what others are gone?

B.A._Baracus · 05-03-2022 3:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118736631#Comment_118736631

In an ideal world, yeah of course. It's just the way it is tho. I know that's not a great response but ... it's just wrestling for ya.

bennyl10 · 06-03-2022 12:07pm

Phoenix show in Limerick last night,

Superb card from start to finish and some really nice story elements starting to kick in!

if you’re around Limerick or Cork keep an eye on their socials, some great stuff going on!

NITRO95 · 06-03-2022 3:02pm

https://twitter.com/FFPWIreland/status/1499452477250408450?t=J86ADjHvylwB2-fy8ne9hg&s=19

Seeing as it's an Irish wrestling thread let's hype up the best Irish wrestling company FFPW. Fabio more than held his own up against one of the best in the world right now Jon Gresham

jo187 · 11-03-2022 12:41am

Hi guys

Know there is stall tickets left for Saturday but if anyone has floor seats for ott for sale for this Saturday, give us a pm, cheers.

Cherry_Cola · 12-03-2022 7:46pm

Saw this on Reddit if anyone can avail of it!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/tcmm15/three_free_tickets_for_over_the_top_wrestling_at/

bennyl10 · 13-03-2022 1:23am

With that reception and shite match

can that be the end of Devlin in Irish wrestling please.

got the reaction that he warranted (ranging from loud anti chants to just no reaction at all)

OTT hopefully will learn, cause it distracted from what was otherwise a wonderful card

jo187 · 13-03-2022 1:30am

Just in from the show. A mixed bag but fun night.

Talk first about the last two matches. RVD vs Scotty Davis. RVD was super oveŕ. A lot of stalling at the start, RVD took one bump and then got on the microphone and said he wanted to make this an extreme rules match. A bit of brawling in the crowd, one use of steal chair, a couple of moves and Rob gets the win with the 5 star. Not really much of a match but people just wanted to see RVD and that they did. After this match people were leaving. Now it was getting on for 11 so maybe were getting the bus or they only came for RVD.

Without a doubt the main event suffered. Jorden came to a decent reaction but hardly the heros welcome you expect. Then Hawkins was out and no one really cared.

Start of the match people were leaving, going to toilet, getting drinks etc. By the end people were getting into it, but unfortunately there was a ref bump. Sammy D came out attacked Jordan and then Hawkins got the win by ref stoppage, as Jordan was "knocked out".

Jordan made a little speech at the end making it clear he loves OTT but this was a one and done deal. A pretty flat finish to the show.

The biggest highlight was the return of Angel Cruz! Great reaction, sadly he was in the 5 way for the GN title and didn't get much time to shine. Martina kept the title. It was nice seeing B Cool come to the side of the stage to see the reaction Angel got.

Scotty 2 hotty vs Sammy D was a stall fest. If Scotty took one bump during the match I be surprised. But the crowd loved him and he milked it well.

It was a odd crowd. Two guys behind me won't shut up through out the show. Just talking about Whatculture Wrestling and Jim Cornette and how he trained with the lads in Bray, I'm sure you did mate.

Behind them was a group who never been to a Wrestling show so thought it was hilarious to shout stuff as loud as they could for there own Amusement. They Recognised Adam Flex from Love Island fair play to them on that, one of them proceeds to shout "love Island" & "I got a text" about 50 times in a row to no reaction.

I been to most of the stadium shows pre Covid. First one back and a rougher crowed. Security were busy all night escorting people out and saw one lad with a bloody nose. It was overall a odd crowd. Decent reactions to entrances and finishes but the actually matches, people were on there phones, walking around etc. Now my sections were pretty bad for this, so maybe not like that for everyone there.

Not a total sell out, but pretty close to it.

montyrebel · 13-03-2022 3:49pm

shame that davis and devlin is still getting work

bennyl10 · 14-03-2022 11:49am

Few days out from Scrapper, think i can leave a more in depth point review,

In general, I think its the weakest OTT show since covid, and also, the weakest show I've seen in Ireland in the same time (phoenix and FFP have both put on much better shows on a more consistent basis)

The entire structure of the card was way off, didnt have any real flow, and just seemed thrown together at times.

Opening 2 matches (4 was elimination and the OTT tag titles) were the 2 best of the night IMO, and even then, the first run through of the tag match at the 'Road to..' card was much higher quality.

Women's title got a nice pop and did what it needed to do crowd all happy.

Scoty2Hotty and RVD, pure nostalgia, did the worm and frog-splash but neither were actually good matches.

GN title, a lot of fun, but seemed hampered by time (show started about 20 late)

Then the main event.. crowd were completely dead, Devlin's intro completely killed 99% of the crowd, with Haskins not even getting booed. For every attempted Devlin chant there was a speaking out response. Ideally it showed OTT that he cant and shouldn't be booked again.

Wasn't a great card, regardless, but having that as main was utter non-sense. Would also agree with the above, was a bad crowd and the majority seemed completely uninterested in matches not featuring swerve/rvd/scotty(which i know is an issue with these 'supercards')

We had tickets booked before Devlin was announced, wont be rushing back to OTT, there's better options about

Solid 3/5* but no more than that

riffmongous · 14-03-2022 2:07pm

I just saw a few bits on Instagram, Martina and Romero seemed to have a lot of fun together, at Hangover yesterday as well.

showpony1 · 14-03-2022 3:09pm

Great to see Scott Garland not take a single bump and get the biggest reactions of the night - hopefully at his seminars this week he can impart this knowledge on our Irish talents.

There were a few lads beside me chanting "Speaking out! Speaking out!" when Debbie Kietel won the title, disgusting stuff.

jo187 · 14-03-2022 10:56pm

I be honest I don't know about the speaking out stuff and didn't hear any chants about it on the night.

I feel the main event fell flat as people were there for RvD and Jordan is a cold character.

Jordan left in many people eyes to go to the big bad WWE. He did noting to build this match. No video, appearance etc. Now that might be due to his WWE status. I felt the crowd warm to him after his speech. Something like this might had helped before hand.

Hawkins is also a cold character. He hasn't been in a feud or storyline that gotten amy interest and there has been no real build to this match.

Imo if you buy a ticket knowing the line up and go to the show and chant "speaking out" or something like that your an attention seeking idiot.

To protest you don't buy or refund your ticket. Bottom line some of your money is going to people you don't like and it encourages the company to bring them back.

ShagNastii · 15-03-2022 2:01am

I think this may be the first stadium show I missed.

I’ve seen it happen a complete of times that the crowd are just banjacked by the time the main event comes around. I remember it for Devlin/ZSJ. Good build, good match but the crowd were totally spent. Silent AF.

I’d say Haskins might have as much to do with the main being a damp squib as Jordan. He does less than nothing for me. Totally “meh”.

I’m surprised it had such a big crowd. Not due to any OTT boycott but just cause it’s clear OTT understandably aren’t as white hot at the mo.

It gets serious traction here but I think it’s clear outside of the crowd on Twitter clutching their pearls people are so past the whole #speakingout thing and really couldn’t give a flying F about it.

B.A._Baracus · 15-03-2022 1:07pm

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I didn't go to the show myself but I think its funny when you hear about famous wrestlers not taking bumps lol. I guess Scotty knows the craic. They came here to see the worm so give them a load of shite lol. It's impressive haha.

But did he do a training seminar? I've no idea. On the subject of them tho they are all a con. Just a way for a talent to earn a couple hundred more. Fair enough for them but a waste of money for those who pay it.

I remember hearing about one of the times Raven did one with iww. He tried to sell people his t-shirts. That's wrong. I also heard in another one of his seminars he we looking at his watch constantly. Even if a guy wants to genuinely impart knowledge realistically there's 10 to 15 guys there. You just get them to do a few drills. Critique a few things. You only learn from someone by wrestling them or to a lesser extent being around for periods of time. Not by giving 50 euro for two hours session thats shared with a dozen other lads. They'll all a con.

jo187 · 15-03-2022 7:30pm

I pretty sure he did a training session with lads at the ott school.

I suppose there some wishful thinking, hoping if one of these guest star trainers like you they can get you in somewhere how every unrealistic that may be.

showpony1 · 16-03-2022 12:54pm

Scott Garland was one of the WWE performance centre lead trainers only a few months ago so I'm sure a seminar with him is considered worthwhile to the talents with aspirations, not a way for Garland to get money as mentioned above.

Garland was getting reactions for taking his jacket off, taking his hat off that our talents couldn't get for doing triple-back flips. I can see him saying to them "Look at that reaction Saturday...and I didn't take a single bump".

B.A._Baracus · 16-03-2022 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118792956#Comment_118792956

Interesting point. He was in the performance centre recently so might be some value there to hear what wwe are currently looking for. Definitely be better than a Raven one lol.

It's still a money maker for him. Again that's fair enough. But it's all apart of being a name while on the Indies. Sell your gimmicks, even have a meet and greet before show starts and do a seminar at the school. All part of the package. He didn't do it for free like ;)

Ps, why do you keep calling him Scott Garland? Lol. Sure it's his real name but it's scotty 2 hotty man.

LineOfBeauty · 05-04-2022 1:40pm

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To be fair on that one, unless Garland has a time machine that can transport these Irish talents back to the heyday of the Attitude Era and place them in one of the most over acts of the era (Too Cool) then I don't think anything he can teach them at a 2 hour seminar will level out the reactions they get for doing spots compared to him taking off his hat.

ShagNastii · 05-04-2022 11:23pm

Really cool to see OTT back in the city after hours. Wonder where the new venue is?

My money is either Liberty Hall or The Academy.

showpony1 · 05-04-2022 11:46pm

#greattosee one of the old OTT original shows "F PG" back. hopefully it's a character/comedy driven show like the older days and not irish trainees working 20 minute indie matches and shaking hands after #respect.

ShagNastii · 07-04-2022 9:28am

The venue for the May 5th evening show is the Laughter Lounge. Osprey and Aussie Open are on the card. Could be great.

If it works well like the Tivoli did location wise the LL is cracking. Can’t get more central and smack bang in nearly all dublins public transport corridors and a stones throw from Bus Arus.

showpony1 · 07-04-2022 11:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118892642#Comment_118892642

It's a pity most of the current crowd up the front at Over the top rope wrestling shows are more likely to complain there's no parking than create a tivoli style atmosphere #cans #justmyopinion

jo187 · 28-04-2022 12:44pm

The ott laughter lounge show for Thursday cancelled.

bennyl10 · 08-06-2022 11:00am

Couple of nice shows announced in recent weeks

phoenix doing an extreme show in Limerick in august

and a birthday show in cork with Scotty coming up soon!

FFP grapple games looks superb too!

ThePott · 08-06-2022 6:47pm

Phoenix also have a show, Mr. Charlie in the Multiverse of Madness on June 25th back in the Kino for the first time in a long time.

The night before that on the 24th FFPW have a show called 'What We do in the Fight Factory' too.

If you're mad into the wrestling here, the last few times you could do a double header with FFPW and Phoenix and even Titanic on Sundays at times.

brianregan09 · 19-06-2022 9:04pm

Was at the OTT show in Limerick , have to say seeing Shota Umino a week before he fights at Forbiden Door in the flesh was nuts he was absolutely awesome , Nice little show to be fair , Debbie Keitel is quite good too

bennyl10 · 09-08-2022 9:07pm

Phoenix have announced a closure

surprising to me and a big hole now in the Munster scene

https://twitter.com/phoenixwrasslin/status/1557093715491143683?s=21&t=YuqNIW2ml3rYUdT5Jtn4Lg

Del Griffith · 26-09-2022 9:52am

Thinking about going to OTT in the National Stadium in October or November - any recent reviews? I haven't been since The Tivoli times..

jo187 · 27-09-2022 12:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665607#Comment_119665607

I'm torn on going. I'm glad haskins is gone but it still feels a bit directionless.

Like I never cared about zack ry der or seen much of what his done outside of wwe.

So him being the big name and noting much else announced and money being tight I'm still on the fence.

ThePott · 14-10-2022 5:18pm

Hey folks, I was the ring announcer for Phoenix Wrestling (and will be again for Rebel County Wrestling) and put together a podcast looking back at Phoenix with Deano Power and Billy Bedlam.

First of four episodes is up now (new one each Friday) where we talk about how Phoenix came to be, working with other Irish promotions and the very first show. We have a range of messages from talent across the scene too, this episode alone has Marion Armstrong, Debbie Keitel, Katey Harvey, Phil Boyd and Terry Thatcher.

Check it out below or under 'Pop Cult Pod' wherever you get your podcasts if it sounds like your thing.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4xl2NMAgmWIPO200BSI44o?si=FhByfXfyQQGr3sPY6hw6Ow

montyrebel · 24-11-2022 1:21pm

eddie kingston on next ott show

jo187 · 02-12-2022 2:48pm

Hey guys

Has anyone been to OTT at the complex yet?

Just wondering better off parking in town and getting luas into smithfeild?

Or is there parking at the complex?

Thanks.

hynesie08 · 02-12-2022 4:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119948725#Comment_119948725

How that venue claims to be in Smithfield is very much beyond me, it's 2 doors up from the boar's head!!!

There's some on street parking around the 4 courts or the Jervis centre car park will leave you less than a 5 minute walk away.

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